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Arthean
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Posted - 2010.06.11 16:43:00 -
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What I'm talking about is on my Temperate and Barren planets I haven't had a link that cost more than a couple hundred power and CPU. This has allowed me to spread stuff out, which is great.
However on a gas giant I have to stack everything (launchpads, processors and extractors) on top of each other because the links easily start exceeding 2000 powergrid and cpu for a link that is, at least visually, the same length as the links on my Barren and Temperate worlds where things are slightly more spread out.
This basically means I'm forced to make tiny little pockets all over the gas giant where the extractors and processors are surrounding a launchpad because it's impossible to have them linked together otherwise. If I did I'd spend over half my total CPU and Powergrid on links alone.
So basically trying to figure out of this is the norm or if something is actually screwing up and I should go look for a new planet?
Thanks,
Arthean
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Bob Tendo
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Posted - 2010.06.11 16:44:00 -
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Cost is based on length, and Gas planets are bigger so the links are longer.
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Steve Thomas
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.11 17:22:00 -
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bascialy its global, Its just a lot more noticable with Gas giants
for bascialy identical worlds, the smaller the better due to link distance.
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Arthean
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Posted - 2010.06.11 17:28:00 -
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 Originally by: Steve Thomas
bascialy its global, Its just a lot more noticable with Gas giants
for bascialy identical worlds, the smaller the better due to link distance.
What do you mean by global? Are you saying that the cost of each km of link is based not on how long that current link is, but on how many km of link you have already laid down on the planet couple with the distance of the new link?
Or is it even more global than that and it's shared across all planets? So the links on each succeeding planet cost more than the previous ones?
I was under the impression that each link was independent of each other and the cost of a link was simply based on the length of that 1 single link.
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Enthral
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Posted - 2010.06.11 18:41:00 -
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No, what we're saying is, planets with a bigger radius are going to have longer links. This is because CCP normalizes the visual size of the planet. You can not put your items closer than a certain number of pixels to each other, but those pixels represent different physical lengths depending on the planet's radius.
Or put another way, two items placed as close to each other as the GUI will allow, will have different lengths in km depending on the radius of the planet.
Don't know if this is a design flaw or intentional, but the short answer is, the bigger the radius of the planet, the more expensive your links are going to be, even if you slam things as close together as the GUI will allow.
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Arthean
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Posted - 2010.06.11 18:53:00 -
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Well that sucks, looks like I'm gonna have to try and find a smaller gas planet. At least I hope Gas Giants aren't all the same size. Can't stand having 4 extractors, and 3 processors less than my other planets simply because it's a Gas Giant -_-
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Messoroz
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Posted - 2010.06.11 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Arthean
Well that sucks, looks like I'm gonna have to try and find a smaller gas planet. At least I hope Gas Giants aren't all the same size. Can't stand having 4 extractors, and 3 processors less than my other planets simply because it's a Gas Giant -_-
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Dr Bambidka
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Posted - 2010.06.11 19:52:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Bambidka on 11/06/2010 19:53:15
Nope, you are victim of a "bug" on Gas planets.
I have on Barren planet placed structures as close as possible to each other and links have 22 MW power consumtion. On Gas planet if you do the same, your link have 263 MW.
This is maybe staff for discussion, but there is some weird math in PI. If you sum link power comsumption with power consumption of every other structure on planet, you will get another number as you get, when you look on CC. CC has maybe some power consumption, but there is shown only information about power output.
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Vasundhara
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Posted - 2010.06.11 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Bambidka
Edited by: Dr Bambidka on 11/06/2010 19:53:15
Nope, you are victim of a "bug" on Gas planets.
I have on Barren planet placed structures as close as possible to each other and links have 22 MW power consumtion. On Gas planet if you do the same, your link have 263 MW.
This is expected behavior due to the way planets are visualized. All planets are viewed in a normalized projection where you can think of the 3d model of the planets being the same size. The minimum distance between facilities is based on this normalized view hence on large planets installations that appear adjacent are actually much farther apart. The normalized view is a simplification but it honestly isn't a bad one. Just remember that the radius of your desired planet matters and keep it in mind when choosing one planet over another.
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