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Ekrid
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.06.11 21:22:00 -
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its okay to do in highsec during war? But not oay when you have a bounty on you? Is this correct? alts are for people with a USD/life ratio higher than adolfs K/D in WWII. - Ekrid
" i'll log my alt in and check if the station is clear". -Yeah, such a fierce carebear pirate you are- |
Accidentally Myname
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.06.11 21:29:00 -
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Yes bounties are for alts. Working as intended.
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Ekrid
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.06.11 22:00:00 -
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Well then why can't a bounty being considered the same as a wartarget if you're signed up in a hunter registry that has annual fees?
alts are for people with a USD/life ratio higher than adolfs K/D in WWII. - Ekrid
" i'll log my alt in and check if the station is clear". -Yeah, such a fierce carebear pirate you are- |
Owen Drakkar
Terra Nostra
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Posted - 2010.06.11 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ekrid Well then why can't a bounty being considered the same as a wartarget if you're signed up in a hunter registry that has annual fees?
Because the griefing with that would get out of control. Imagine me being able to permanently shoot you whenever I want to by keeping a 1 isk bounty on you and being in the registry.
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Ekrid
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.06.11 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Owen Drakkar
Originally by: Ekrid Well then why can't a bounty being considered the same as a wartarget if you're signed up in a hunter registry that has annual fees?
Because the griefing with that would get out of control. Imagine me being able to permanently shoot you whenever I want to by keeping a 1 isk bounty on you and being in the registry.
Fees would scale based on your SP. BTW, griefing already occurs with 3 year players deccing newbie corps filled with 2 month players who just wanted to play together.
so spare the "griefing" comments. alts are for people with a USD/life ratio higher than adolfs K/D in WWII. - Ekrid
" i'll log my alt in and check if the station is clear". -Yeah, such a fierce carebear pirate you are- |
Salyan
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Posted - 2010.06.11 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ekrid
Imagine me being able to permanently shoot you whenever I want to by keeping a 1 isk bounty on you and being in the registry.
Well, then I'd better keep my sec status above -2 if I know what's good for me, right? Sounds fine.
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Owen Drakkar
Terra Nostra
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Posted - 2010.06.11 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ekrid Fees would scale based on your SP. BTW, griefing already occurs with 3 year players deccing newbie corps filled with 2 month players who just wanted to play together.
so spare the "griefing" comments.
Right, what you are saying would only help to enable that.
Better scenario: I am part of the registry and am now flying around. I see a nice mining op going on. Orcas, exhumers, etc.
I dock up and grab a pvp ship with multiple points fitted and open up that bounty window and place a minimal bounnty on the head of each person in that mining op.
Warp back to the belt and profit. See where I am going with this?
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Napro
Caldari Buccaneers of New Eden death from above..
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Posted - 2010.06.11 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: Owen Drakkar
Better scenario: I am part of the registry and am now flying around. I see a nice mining op going on. Orcas, exhumers, etc.
I dock up and grab a pvp ship with multiple points fitted and open up that bounty window and place a minimal bounnty on the head of each person in that mining op.
Warp back to the belt and profit. See where I am going with this?
Right, Like these bounty fees wouldnt have time delay like everything else in this F*cking game.
Seriously, quit posting. You look silly. It's a solid idea
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Owen Drakkar
Terra Nostra
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Posted - 2010.06.11 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Napro Seriously, quit posting. You look silly. It's a solid idea
NEVA STOP POASTIN!
Also, not as silly as this:
Originally by: Napro I only voted and campaigned for Cat! It's important we have a voice of reason on the CSM!
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Ekrid
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.06.12 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Owen Drakkar
Originally by: Ekrid Fees would scale based on your SP. BTW, griefing already occurs with 3 year players deccing newbie corps filled with 2 month players who just wanted to play together.
so spare the "griefing" comments.
Right, what you are saying would only help to enable that.
Better scenario: I am part of the registry and am now flying around. I see a nice mining op going on. Orcas, exhumers, etc.
I dock up and grab a pvp ship with multiple points fitted and open up that bounty window and place a minimal bounnty on the head of each person in that mining op.
Warp back to the belt and profit. See where I am going with this?
you cant bounty people who don't have at least a certain amount of NEGATIVE security status, tard. alts are for people with a USD/life ratio higher than adolfs K/D in WWII. - Ekrid
" i'll log my alt in and check if the station is clear". -Yeah, such a fierce carebear pirate you are- |
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Jabru
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Posted - 2010.06.13 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ekrid
you cant bounty people who don't have at least a certain amount of NEGATIVE security status, tard.
wow because every pirate and pvp'er has negative sec right? pirating is a state of mind not a secuirty level, what about people in null sec? Or "grifers" who war dec corps in high sec, or peolpe in low sec who bait other "pirates" then light cyno's and drop carrier on them
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Ekrid
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.06.13 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jabru
Originally by: Ekrid
you cant bounty people who don't have at least a certain amount of NEGATIVE security status, tard.
wow because every pirate and pvp'er has negative sec right? pirating is a state of mind not a secuirty level, what about people in null sec? Or "grifers" who war dec corps in high sec, or peolpe in low sec who bait other "pirates" then light cyno's and drop carrier on them
Then this proposal has NO bearing on them, obviously, and your "It will be abused by griefers" crying is meaningless, because they're doing it in lowsec and nullsec to pod people anyway. THis change will in no way affect the already maxed out state of griefing.
Do you even know what you're reading?
People get negative sec. negatives secs can be bountied. people can pop them for bounties.
You complain that people will be abusing this by putting 1 isk bounties on people and then getting to pop them all the time.
you cant put a bounty on someone without a negative status.
Therefor, it will not increase griefing and nullsec/lowsec people do not signify.
your posts aren't even useful. "Waaaah" - Navigator
Alts: When your USD/Life ratio is higher than Truman's K/d in WWII
" i'll log my alt in to scout for hostiles". [i] - A Fiercely carebear pirate. |
Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari Rancer Defence League
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Posted - 2010.06.13 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Owen Drakkar
Originally by: Napro Seriously, quit posting. You look silly. It's a solid idea
NEVA STOP POASTIN!
Also, not as silly as this:
Originally by: Napro I only voted and campaigned for Cat! It's important we have a voice of reason on the CSM!
Over 500 votes can't be a mistake
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2010.06.13 11:50:00 -
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The bounty system is broken, will always be exploitable. Adding 'features' will only add more multitudes of ways to exploit it. You got a beef with someone? Hire mercs!
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Easley Thames
The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.13 12:00:00 -
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Bounties could be a way to go after players who hide in NPC corps.
I think it would be good for the game. The less safe we all are, the more fun the sandbox gets.
I'm sure plenty of people disagree and want to avoid being "griefed," but if you were to stop being so afraid of other pilots harming you and treat bounties as a source of "fun" it might be an interesting way for players who have committed criminal acts to get fights from "bounty-hunters" (a job that literally doesn't even exist in the game currently).
There are a ton of threads on how to implement bounties in a more successful and meaningful way. I wish CCP would read through a couple dozen of those theories, hold some high-level meetings and come up with something better than what we have now. ---
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Rin Vires
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Posted - 2010.06.13 12:11:00 -
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I approve of this. Yes there is grief potential, but everything in EVE has grief potential. If I knew I wasn't going to get concordokkened for ganking a bounty, I would totally go for it.
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Napro
Caldari Buccaneers of New Eden death from above..
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Posted - 2010.06.13 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Owen Drakkar
NEVA STOP POASTIN!
Also, not as silly as this:
I too, must look up a posters history when I have no substance in my argument. Nice job seizing on a sarcastic post to get your point across, btw. Now can we get back to the topic on hand?
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Steve Celeste
Caldari Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2010.06.13 22:15:00 -
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lolNapro
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.06.13 22:18:00 -
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CCP, consider this:
The bounty system in EVE is so bad that even Erkid can sound smart talking about it. Erkid.
Yeah. That's really bad.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Celeritas 5k
Caldari Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.06.14 06:50:00 -
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Squishy squishy!
- NEVER PVP SOBER. |
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.06.14 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis CCP, consider this:
The bounty system in EVE is so bad that even Erkid can sound smart talking about it. Erkid.
Yeah. That's really bad.
+1 _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Dodgy Past
Amarr Debitum Naturae BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.06.14 08:02:00 -
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Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
Originally by: Owen Drakkar
Originally by: Napro Seriously, quit posting. You look silly. It's a solid idea
NEVA STOP POASTIN!
Also, not as silly as this:
Originally by: Napro I only voted and campaigned for Cat! It's important we have a voice of reason on the CSM!
Over 500 votes can't be a mistake
You claiming that there are less than 500 deluded accounts in Eve?
I find this highly doubtful. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- you seem determined to turn it into ******* Hollyoaks for neckbeards. |
CrestoftheStars
Caldari Recreation Of The World
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Posted - 2010.06.14 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: Owen Drakkar
Originally by: Ekrid Well then why can't a bounty being considered the same as a wartarget if you're signed up in a hunter registry that has annual fees?
Because the griefing with that would get out of control. Imagine me being able to permanently shoot you whenever I want to by keeping a 1 isk bounty on you and being in the registry.
dont see the problem? you cant set a bounty on some one over -2 standing... so if i can set a bounty on you, you already decided to be a ****tard and break the "law", therefore i can't see what you would whine about? ___________________________________________ Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both. For a wounded |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.06.14 08:21:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 14/06/2010 08:23:51
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Malcanis CCP, consider this:
The bounty system in EVE is so bad that even Erkid can sound smart talking about it. Erkid.
Yeah. That's really bad.
+1
+2
àand that's even in spite of the idea not solving the key problem with the current bounty system where placing a bounty on someone is essentially the same as giving nasty ebil pierats money as a reward for being mean to people. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Yarpen
Tsunami Cartel Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2010.06.15 09:24:00 -
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Guys I think it is a cool idea. REMEMBER: bounties cannot be placed if you are sec above -2. This way no griefers would be able to grief poor fluffy crarebears.
Now there is another problem with that: if a griefer is above -2 then he is immune with the current system SO:
How about we implement something along the lines where you can actually place a bounty on someone whose sec status is above -2 IF you have kill rights on them. This should be gretty safe from exploits ro am I missing some mechanics? (might be wrong, haven't been in hi sec for quite some time hehe)
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1Ekrid1
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Posted - 2010.06.15 09:53:00 -
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If people get a killright on someone else, its because that someone else destroyed their ship right?
So maybe people can trade that killright in to be able to place a bounty on anyone. Then bounties can apply to any security status.
Otherwise bounties can only be placed on people with the proper negative security rating, and people sign a fee to become a bounty hunter with concord, and they are the only ones that get to go after bountied people's pods without fear.
How is this exploitable or griefable? Only people who have committed crimes any which way will be bountied, and then only people who are in good standing with concord will be able to collect. So you cant have one pirate collect for their pirate buddy and split it after the requisite jump cloning.
In this way, a new possibility is opened up, and the more people that are around to gank bountied players, the less likely the player will be able to get their corpmates or their own alts to collect on it, unless they do some serious planning. Even then theres still a chance someone could come along and pop them right after they get bountied, that makes it much more likely the bounties will go to other players and makes it much more of a challange to be an evil pirate.
the pirate state is just as carebear as anything else, this would put a little danger in their corner.
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XenosisReaper
Rising Ashes Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.15 09:57:00 -
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Your banning amuses me
Originally by: XenosisReaper
/me feels left out because he was ignored by the devtrain
Originally by: CCP Shadow
You are hereby "un-ignored". The name XenosisReaper will live on forever
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1Ekrid1
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Posted - 2010.06.15 10:56:00 -
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noones been banned yet. I just fixed my sig so it isnt locked by some scumbag.
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