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Dray
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.11 23:59:00 -
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Edited by: Dray on 12/06/2010 00:07:43
My Bad, hit enter on the topic.
Ok I'm English and with my brother we are long time F1 fans, but my brother, thru friends made on XBOX live has come to embrace NASCAR, we've watched round 13 highlights from Charlotte and basically what I need is a descriptiojn of the team rules regarding budget and engine specs, beyond that a decent web site for nubs explaining the tactics of the team and drivers, I can understand and appreciate the race tactics of slip streaming etc, but what I need is a more in depth nub guide beyond this like how the team managers can influence a race like the main men in F1 can, I'm guilty as was my brother of dismissing NASCAR as being somewhat simple because of oval circuits and thinking it was just a brute thing, but after seeing just how many people can lead a race and how it isn't as cut and dried as I thought I want more info, that said I still love F1 but I want to appreciate NASCAR better.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.06.12 00:07:00 -
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 Originally by: Dray
OP lacks content. Just like NASCAR.
Originally by: CCP Shadow
Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
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Dray
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Posted - 2010.06.12 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: Lance Fighter
Originally by: Dray
OP lacks content. Just like NASCAR.
That's what I thought, I was wrong, call it a bad drugs encounter with "Days of thunder" and hating Tom Cruise.
The highlights has me hooked, but my ignorance is spoiling it a little.
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Ella C'Tronix
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Posted - 2010.06.12 01:06:00 -
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To understand NASCAR, you have to BE nascar
http://www.texasmotorspeedway.com/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Components.ImageFileViewer/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files.21/0333.sports_2D00_pictures_2D00_fan_2D00_drunk_2D00_rednecks.jpg_2D00_555x0.jpg
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Lt Forge
Pilots From Honour
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.06.12 01:15:00 -
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"They're making a left turn! They're making another left turn! And another left turn! Gee I wonder what happens next!"
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Dray
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.12 01:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ella C'Tronix
To understand NASCAR, you have to BE nascar
http://www.texasmotorspeedway.com/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Components.ImageFileViewer/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files.21/0333.sports_2D00_pictures_2D00_fan_2D00_drunk_2D00_rednecks.jpg_2D00_555x0.jpg
LOL
I like you Ella you use a Mac but it's not that simple or do rednecks not get it and just enjoy fast shineh cars......
Either way as a motor sport enthusiast I want to know more.
Nice hat though.....
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Ademaro Imre
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.15 05:17:00 -
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Edited by: Ademaro Imre on 15/06/2010 05:21:28
The actual managers have little to say in how a team wins, except by putting personal together that form good "synergy" and obtaining sponsors. If by manager, you mean crew chield, the guy that is in "command" in the pit box, then he can be a major factor. The cars have alot of "play" in them and alot of adjustments that can be made, and all of these adjustments can also be dependent on what types of traclk they are at, and the current condition of the track, and even the weather. The race the previous day could have laid down rubber and made the track more slick, but a rainfall could wash some of that away. The tire manufacturer is usually changing the tires to some degree also. The crew chief is responsible for putting a good car on the field to practice with or make changes on the fly in those conditions. These guys have notebooks, that are are extremely valuable. Usually handwritten proprietary notes. Driver preference in what lines to race can effect the car adjustments. The crew chief is usually in charge of those adjustments and the driver provide feedback in practice, and during the race. As you know - there can be a great amount of adjustments on a car and a google search can find them. If the crew chief and the driver do not form a close relationship with how the car handles, then the team fails. A driver can say his car is loose, but that can mean alot of things. Crew chielfs can also make decisions like short pitting during longer green flag runs, be the final call on either a 2 or 4 tire stops (two tires is a faster change for track position, but lose benefits of 4 tires).
Oval track racing is great for spectators. I usually got to 2-4 races a year, and I can be in the upper bleachers at Dover or Richmond, and see the entire track for the entire race (not all ovals are like this, but the great majority are). Even though its an oval, every corner is different, just through weatherization of the track and other factors. If you look back on the Charolotte race, entering turn one is different than turn three because of the front stretch dog leg. If you watch the Pocono race, no corner is the same. TV coverage of the races is terrible. The radio coverage is much better, they can really put life into a race if you are not watching it. I will often turn the TV volume off and put the radio on because I get better information because TV broadcasts (for any type of race) usually get mesmerized for whoever is in first place.
I would just do a search on Amazon for a book. In all seriousness, NASCAR for dummies would be a good start because it has an overview of the sport. Its dated from 2005, but for the most part, it still applies. The car styles have changed to what they call "Call of Tomorrow" last year. This was done to expand adjustments to a care, and make aerodynamics the same for every car from the start. If you are interested in a race to race "documentary" type of book, A Lttle Bit Sideways is a good book. It follows Kenny Wallace, a a driver of small notoriety between one race and another race. I am not sure if its still in print, but amazon shows copies available from sellers int he US.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.15 08:22:00 -
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NASCAR fan signing in.
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Exploding Tukey
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Posted - 2010.06.15 13:33:00 -
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watch.
Jeff Dunham (Ventriloquist) doing Bubba J
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iMd8Pm-2EE
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.06.15 21:24:00 -
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NASCAR is dead currently in my opinion due to stagnation.
A nice historical fact about NASCARs' inception is that it was born out of the moonshine running business. When the prohibition of alcohol was stopped, all the guys that made a living off of smuggling moonshine and other illicit liquors needed to feed their adrenaline junkie mentalities, so they started racing their modified runners, and the formation of NASCAR was to follow.
A brief history of the sport.
After each race the winnersĘ car is inspected and if it is found to be in violation of one of the specifications the win can be nullified or extremely stiff penalties can be incurred. Also there are pointĘs races for owners and manufactures, not just individual racers.
I am not sure how complete the wiki is, but it looks to cover most of the bases for the Sprint Cup, which is the major division of NASCAR that most people are familiar with. There has been a lot of changes to the car specification in the last decade since just before the death Of Dale Earnhardt Sr. 
But, yes, many people have a very negative view of NASCAR due to the fact that all but 3 or 4 races are on an oval, and think that as simplistic. But considering how much passing there is on the oval, the technical aspects of spotting, drafting, pitting, and so on, makes NASCAR much more dynamic then most, with an uneducated bias, think.
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mental maverick
Duty.
Duty. Private Security
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Posted - 2010.06.15 22:09:00 -
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Never had much of an interest in NASCAR before but if rumors are to be believed there might be a Swede, Mattias Ekstr÷m, on his way to the red bull team in the sprint series soon. So i might have to look up some streams and take a look...
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