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starfox2004
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Posted - 2004.12.13 10:56:00 -
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Hi guys just a general query really, i have never used nos and hear/see Most of the eve community using it !
So here is the question ! is it really THAT GOOD ? should i use it ? what are the pros and cons on nos ? and finally is there anyway to counter it ?
All help is greatly appreciated !
Starfox 2004
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starfox2004
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Posted - 2004.12.13 10:56:00 -
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Hi guys just a general query really, i have never used nos and hear/see Most of the eve community using it !
So here is the question ! is it really THAT GOOD ? should i use it ? what are the pros and cons on nos ? and finally is there anyway to counter it ?
All help is greatly appreciated !
Starfox 2004
*** Think outside of the box ***
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starfox2004
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Posted - 2004.12.13 11:27:00 -
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Also one more question !
What is the difference between nos and energy neutralizers ?
Starfox 2004 
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starfox2004
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Posted - 2004.12.13 11:27:00 -
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Also one more question !
What is the difference between nos and energy neutralizers ?
Starfox 2004 
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Corrde
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Posted - 2004.12.13 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: Corrde on 13/12/2004 11:33:32 NOS is great, I can put it into my Kestrel GTI 1.8 and get a speed boost... oh wait,
hehe seriously tho Nosferatu's work great against people that rely alot on cap, so not so good against projectile or missile users ( although can cripple their tanking ability )
Edit to answer 2nd post: Nosferatu's do the equivalent to a vampire, suck your enemy's capacitor and transfer it to your own.
Neutralizers suck the enemy's capacitor at a FAR greater rate but you don't get any, so it kills their cap quicker at the expense of not getting any.
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Corrde
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Posted - 2004.12.13 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: Corrde on 13/12/2004 11:33:32 NOS is great, I can put it into my Kestrel GTI 1.8 and get a speed boost... oh wait,
hehe seriously tho Nosferatu's work great against people that rely alot on cap, so not so good against projectile or missile users ( although can cripple their tanking ability )
Edit to answer 2nd post: Nosferatu's do the equivalent to a vampire, suck your enemy's capacitor and transfer it to your own.
Neutralizers suck the enemy's capacitor at a FAR greater rate but you don't get any, so it kills their cap quicker at the expense of not getting any.
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Elysia
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Posted - 2004.12.13 11:52:00 -
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Edited by: Elysia on 13/12/2004 11:55:48
Quote: Neutralizers suck the enemy's capacitor at a FAR greater rate but you don't get any, so it kills their cap quicker at the expense of not getting any ...
... and at the expense of killing yours, at the same rate as you're killing theirs! (The activation cost of neuts is the same as their neutralizing effect) Hence why nos's are much more popular.
Edit: Doh! Too slow posting, by less than a second 
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Elysia
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Posted - 2004.12.13 11:52:00 -
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Edited by: Elysia on 13/12/2004 11:55:48
Quote: Neutralizers suck the enemy's capacitor at a FAR greater rate but you don't get any, so it kills their cap quicker at the expense of not getting any ...
... and at the expense of killing yours, at the same rate as you're killing theirs! (The activation cost of neuts is the same as their neutralizing effect) Hence why nos's are much more popular.
Edit: Doh! Too slow posting, by less than a second 
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Reebo77
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Posted - 2004.12.13 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Corrde Edited by: Corrde on 13/12/2004 11:33:32 NOS is great, I can put it into my Kestrel GTI 1.8 and get a speed boost... oh wait,
hehe seriously tho Nosferatu's work great against people that rely alot on cap, so not so good against projectile or missile users ( although can cripple their tanking ability )
Edit to answer 2nd post: Nosferatu's do the equivalent to a vampire, suck your enemy's capacitor and transfer it to your own.
Neutralizers suck the enemy's capacitor at a FAR greater rate but you don't get any, so it kills their cap quicker at the expense of not getting any.
It costs your own ship cap to use a neutraliser too, the same as the amount it neuts in the other ship.
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Reebo77
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Posted - 2004.12.13 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Corrde Edited by: Corrde on 13/12/2004 11:33:32 NOS is great, I can put it into my Kestrel GTI 1.8 and get a speed boost... oh wait,
hehe seriously tho Nosferatu's work great against people that rely alot on cap, so not so good against projectile or missile users ( although can cripple their tanking ability )
Edit to answer 2nd post: Nosferatu's do the equivalent to a vampire, suck your enemy's capacitor and transfer it to your own.
Neutralizers suck the enemy's capacitor at a FAR greater rate but you don't get any, so it kills their cap quicker at the expense of not getting any.
It costs your own ship cap to use a neutraliser too, the same as the amount it neuts in the other ship.
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dabster
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Posted - 2004.12.13 11:57:00 -
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Also Nos fires about twice as fast. ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's |

dabster
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Posted - 2004.12.13 11:57:00 -
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Also Nos fires about twice as fast. ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's |

magickangaroo
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Posted - 2004.12.13 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Elysia Edited by: Elysia on 13/12/2004 11:55:48
Quote: Neutralizers suck the enemy's capacitor at a FAR greater rate but you don't get any, so it kills their cap quicker at the expense of not getting any ...
... and at the expense of killing yours, at the same rate as you're killing theirs! (The activation cost of neuts is the same as their neutralizing effect) Hence why nos's are much more popular.
Edit: Doh! Too slow posting, by less than a second 
acutally with skills its considerably less than what u neutralise. the eve community at larget doesnt realise teh value of neutralisers in small conflicts. they make it imposible for the enemy to tank dmg while u can still keep ur hardeners going. defo worth a look at, although keep it quite cos at the mo they totally pwn in small groups
mgk
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magickangaroo
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Posted - 2004.12.13 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Elysia Edited by: Elysia on 13/12/2004 11:55:48
Quote: Neutralizers suck the enemy's capacitor at a FAR greater rate but you don't get any, so it kills their cap quicker at the expense of not getting any ...
... and at the expense of killing yours, at the same rate as you're killing theirs! (The activation cost of neuts is the same as their neutralizing effect) Hence why nos's are much more popular.
Edit: Doh! Too slow posting, by less than a second 
acutally with skills its considerably less than what u neutralise. the eve community at larget doesnt realise teh value of neutralisers in small conflicts. they make it imposible for the enemy to tank dmg while u can still keep ur hardeners going. defo worth a look at, although keep it quite cos at the mo they totally pwn in small groups
mgk
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.12.13 12:13:00 -
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1 hvy nos will kill any frigs cap and seriously dent a cruisers (1 hvy nos = -500 cap for target). Quick and easy way to kill any tackler, specially if coupled with a nos to keep him dry.
In a pitched battle, BS v BS they have limited use and nos are much more preferable. 2 hvy nos also has a substantial effect on frig and cruiser cap, just not as much as a neut does
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.12.13 12:13:00 -
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1 hvy nos will kill any frigs cap and seriously dent a cruisers (1 hvy nos = -500 cap for target). Quick and easy way to kill any tackler, specially if coupled with a nos to keep him dry.
In a pitched battle, BS v BS they have limited use and nos are much more preferable. 2 hvy nos also has a substantial effect on frig and cruiser cap, just not as much as a neut does
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.12.13 12:27:00 -
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NOS is great just because if u get caught by a few frigs it means u dont have to rely on crappy drones....
NOs is more an anti frig thing for me, rather than a primary BS weapon.
d santa solo.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.12.13 12:27:00 -
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NOS is great just because if u get caught by a few frigs it means u dont have to rely on crappy drones....
NOs is more an anti frig thing for me, rather than a primary BS weapon.
d santa solo.
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Evona Moucrou
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Posted - 2004.12.13 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: starfox2004 Also one more question !
What is the difference between nos and energy neutralizers ?
Starfox 2004 
If you are in a Cruiser on anti-frigatte duty...
A medium NOS takes 30 cap every 6 seconds from your target, up to a range of 10 km. A NOS does not use any energy from you.
That is 5 cap/second, and that is rather rough if you are a frigatte and on the 'giving' side of a NOS.
A medium neutralizer neutralizes 150 cap on the target ship every 12 seconds - but uses the same amount as 'activation cost' on your own ship.
With two of these neutralizers you can pretty much empty any frigate.
Medium Neutralizer
NOS
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Evona Moucrou
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Posted - 2004.12.13 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: starfox2004 Also one more question !
What is the difference between nos and energy neutralizers ?
Starfox 2004 
If you are in a Cruiser on anti-frigatte duty...
A medium NOS takes 30 cap every 6 seconds from your target, up to a range of 10 km. A NOS does not use any energy from you.
That is 5 cap/second, and that is rather rough if you are a frigatte and on the 'giving' side of a NOS.
A medium neutralizer neutralizes 150 cap on the target ship every 12 seconds - but uses the same amount as 'activation cost' on your own ship.
With two of these neutralizers you can pretty much empty any frigate.
Medium Neutralizer
NOS
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2004.12.13 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow 1 hvy nos will kill any frigs cap and seriously dent a cruisers (1 hvy nos = -500 cap for target). Quick and easy way to kill any tackler, specially if coupled with a nos to keep him dry.
In a pitched battle, BS v BS they have limited use and nos are much more preferable. 2 hvy nos also has a substantial effect on frig and cruiser cap, just not as much as a neut does
Nope, normal Heavy NOS drains 100 cap from the target. Good interceptor / frigate pilots can even keep their MWD running if you put 2 Heavy NOS on them (ok, you gotta keep activating it, but it works =]).
Heavy neut will insta-kill a frigate's cap, but because of the long cycle time, he can just wait for his cap to catch up and reactivate MWD for another boost :)
NOS are good for the extra cap they give on Ravens, 'cause the Raven is so gimped it cannot fit another 2 BS weapons, but 2 Heavy NOS is doable :) ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2004.12.13 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow 1 hvy nos will kill any frigs cap and seriously dent a cruisers (1 hvy nos = -500 cap for target). Quick and easy way to kill any tackler, specially if coupled with a nos to keep him dry.
In a pitched battle, BS v BS they have limited use and nos are much more preferable. 2 hvy nos also has a substantial effect on frig and cruiser cap, just not as much as a neut does
Nope, normal Heavy NOS drains 100 cap from the target. Good interceptor / frigate pilots can even keep their MWD running if you put 2 Heavy NOS on them (ok, you gotta keep activating it, but it works =]).
Heavy neut will insta-kill a frigate's cap, but because of the long cycle time, he can just wait for his cap to catch up and reactivate MWD for another boost :)
NOS are good for the extra cap they give on Ravens, 'cause the Raven is so gimped it cannot fit another 2 BS weapons, but 2 Heavy NOS is doable :) ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
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Noriath
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Posted - 2004.12.13 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr
Originally by: Eyeshadow NOS are good for the extra cap they give on Ravens, 'cause the Raven is so gimped it cannot fit another 2 BS weapons, but 2 Heavy NOS is doable :)
Haha, poor gimped raven... 
Acctually Nosferatus are great weapons for droneships like Dominix, because they allow you to run your repairs off the other persons cap if you have enough of them while drones deal the damage.
Neutralizers are nice but even with high skills they require a lot of cap energy from your own ship, so they are better in group situations...
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Noriath
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Posted - 2004.12.13 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr
Originally by: Eyeshadow NOS are good for the extra cap they give on Ravens, 'cause the Raven is so gimped it cannot fit another 2 BS weapons, but 2 Heavy NOS is doable :)
Haha, poor gimped raven... 
Acctually Nosferatus are great weapons for droneships like Dominix, because they allow you to run your repairs off the other persons cap if you have enough of them while drones deal the damage.
Neutralizers are nice but even with high skills they require a lot of cap energy from your own ship, so they are better in group situations...
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