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Krogen Kell
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Posted - 2010.06.18 23:20:00 -
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Edited by: Krogen Kell on 18/06/2010 23:21:04 There is a lack of Ship Capture in EVE. It does happen, but only in the very rare event whrn someone is too afraid; or just completly stupid and ejects, and ends up loosing it anyways cause he is in a bubble.
What if Loosing a ship is 100% guarantee that your pod will die also, as i dont see how you can escape once the ship has completly blown up. Most sci fi movies show that people run to escape pods and eject before the ship has completly gone boom. Since this is Sci fi, anything can be made up free of logic.
If the risk of dying from loosing a ship was greater or less than 100% but still over 20%. than people will be more likely to eject manually in the face of imminent distruction, resulting in the classic taking her as a prize era.
I am sure, a lot of carebears will cry if something like this was to be put in eve, but it offers more reward to pvp, and more risk to loss for heavy users of implants.
Maybe to level up the field, you can render pods immune to warp bubbles.
anyways, gtg feed the fish.
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omgfreemoniez
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Posted - 2010.06.18 23:21:00 -
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Capturing doesnt give killmails. If someone ejects I will still destroy their ship for the killmail.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.06.18 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: omgfreemoniez Capturing doesnt give killmails. If someone ejects I will still destroy their ship for the killmail.
And this is why I say CCP should seriously consider killing killmails. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Musical Fist
Gallente The Unknown Bar and Pub
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Posted - 2010.06.18 23:50:00 -
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Its not hard to just press print screen you know :P -- Emo TraderJohn's Number 1 Fan!! |
Wendi Watson
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Posted - 2010.06.18 23:51:00 -
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http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/difficulties/looselose.html
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Barrak
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.06.19 08:03:00 -
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Not to put a downer on the idea, but can you imagine what that would do to the already delicate mineral market..... suddenly, even more ships not going pop!
I like the idea.... very much like that older game... cant remember what it was called. In this life (Eve) dying is easy, its living thats hard.
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John Comer
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Posted - 2010.06.19 09:40:00 -
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eject under 25% structure, ship looses 25% structure hp and goes boom
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Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp New Eden Research.
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Posted - 2010.06.19 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: omgfreemoniez Capturing doesnt give killmails. If someone ejects I will still destroy their ship for the killmail.
AMAGAD, MAH KILL:DEATH RATIOOOOO!
Killboards are the cancer of EVE's PVP.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.19 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: omgfreemoniez Capturing doesnt give killmails. If someone ejects I will still destroy their ship for the killmail.
And this is why I say CCP should seriously consider killing killmails.
This tbh
Too many km *****s.
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Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.19 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: omgfreemoniez Capturing doesnt give killmails. If someone ejects I will still destroy their ship for the killmail.
And this is why I say CCP should seriously consider killing killmails.
OMG, I actually agree with this guy.
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Chopper Rollins
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.19 11:14:00 -
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Edited by: Chopper Rollins on 19/06/2010 11:15:38 "Most sci fi movies show that people run to escape pods and eject before the ship has completly gone boom."
Do they really? If what happened in eve was directed by most sci-fi movies...urk.
"Since this is Sci fi, anything can be made up free of logic."
Whoops, that's fantasy, set in the far future or outer space, not sci-fi. Science fiction has all the logic and is vulnerable to poindexterous snickers if a detail of physics, astronomy or chemistry is made up or wrong. What IS an AU anyway?
BTW you're always in your escape pod.
edit: wow snickers can't be spelled with g's.
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Alexas Kateiwa
Caldari Gravis Unbound Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.06.19 11:25:00 -
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I always eject when my tank is broken or i'm super outnumbered, because most of the people deploy the bubble after the ship is blown up to catch the pod.
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Lucas Schuyler
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Posted - 2010.06.19 13:24:00 -
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So let's say your idea works. What is the scenario? You eject in your Pod and warp off... I eject from my pirate ship, leaving it vulnerable in space to get into your half dead ship... and then what?
Or do you expect that Pirates will make some of their friends hang around in Pods so that they can jump into "captured" ships?
Even if you provided incentive to eject from ships, there are no good mechanics available for capturing abandoned ships apart from having a Carrier poised to swoop in and scoop it up.
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Zeredek
Gallente Vanguard Venture
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Posted - 2010.06.19 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: omgfreemoniez Capturing doesnt give killmails. If someone ejects I will still destroy their ship for the killmail.
And this is why I say CCP should seriously consider killing killmails.
This
Originally by: CCP Soundwave Shady deals? IN MY EVE ONLINE? I don't believe it.
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Jasdemi
Caldari Caldari Manufacturing
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Posted - 2010.06.19 13:30:00 -
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It would just hurt the economy.
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.06.19 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: omgfreemoniez Capturing doesnt give killmails. If someone ejects I will still destroy their ship for the killmail.
What is it with most of you and those goddamn killmails?
Apply | Sigs
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Lex Alandar
Q Division 5
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Posted - 2010.06.19 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Chopper Rollins What IS an AU anyway?
an Astronomical Unit
I'm quite glad that for this bit they decided to lean more to the science side than the fiction side. Really helps to visualize the distances (as much as possible with unimaginably far objects). I always think "hrm, that gate is 14 earth-to-suns from me, just in scan range =¦
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new ker
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Posted - 2010.06.19 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Chopper Rollins
What IS an AU anyway?
HAPPY FUN FACT TIME: Light travel roughly 173 AU per day.
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CCP Adida
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.19 16:11:00 -
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Moved from general discussion
Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online
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shady trader
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Posted - 2010.06.19 18:48:00 -
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The idea of capturing ships is included in the commonly prosed idea's thread.
boarding enemy ships
Basically it will not work with insurance. Ether no insurance payout or it open to being exploited. Macrointel, the place were the nature order of the universe does not hold sway. Pirates and ore thief's are congratulated by carebears for the actions. |
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Krogen Kell
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Posted - 2010.06.20 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: shady trader The idea of capturing ships is included in the commonly prosed idea's thread.
boarding enemy ships
Basically it will not work with insurance. Ether no insurance payout or it open to being exploited.
Its not the same IDea, I Think Boarding is completly Stupid, since ships arent an open deck for you to jump your marines on. My idea differs by being after the hsip was abondened. not during the pod being in the ship.
and since the whole ship is controlled from a pod, Did you think there would be Corridors for your marines to run arround in and fire at non excisting crew?
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Abdiel Kavash
Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.06.21 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Lex Alandar
Originally by: Chopper Rollins What IS an AU anyway?
an Astronomical Unit
And how is that relevant several thousands of parsecs away from the Solar system, to people who no longer even remember what Earth is?
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Zilberfrid
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Posted - 2010.06.21 18:13:00 -
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A couple of things:
I agree on removing killmails AU is just a handy term, lightminute would also work, but is less easy to visualise.
I do not agree on hijacking ships.
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Brusanan
Beware of Carp General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.22 08:50:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: omgfreemoniez Capturing doesnt give killmails. If someone ejects I will still destroy their ship for the killmail.
And this is why I say CCP should seriously consider killing killmails.
Removing killmails would seriously hurt Eve. ______
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Gavjack Bunk
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Posted - 2010.06.22 10:17:00 -
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Perhaps if they were to introduce a Pod Ejector that will launch your pod at 6000km/s in some random direction?
Currently launching your pod early might save you from a podkilling, but if it was 99% guarantee that you'll escape, might encourage people to eject more.
Even then, the loss of skills from the vessel may result in the vessel being destroyed, would not destroying ship hulls affect the industrial community adversely?
In many scenarios an ejected ship is actually a burden, it happens so rarely that in general you're just not in a position to take the vessel you got gifted. However, if it became more common, would we see more people flying useful trash ships like Retribution? ie, you join the gang in a Retribution, and at some point you might "upgrade" to a battered Zealot. Would a market emerge of people searching out abandoned vessels?
I think it's interesting and neither desirable nor abhorrent. -- On planets... nobody can see you macro mining... |
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