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Daisuke Aoki
Gallente Independent Coalition Primary.
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Posted - 2010.06.19 07:21:00 -
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o7 My condolences. It saddens me greatly to hear about the passing of all those fighting for those respective countries. To hear about the loss of a fellow member of Primary. is even more saddening. My heart goes out to the loved ones he left behind.
Regardless of your opinion of the war in Afgfhanistan or on the merits of the use of military force in general, the loss of this young man is a tragedy and this thread is not the place for such a debate.
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
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Posted - 2010.06.19 07:25:00 -
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Much respect to the fallen soldier. I'm sorry for his family's loss.
Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
Originally by: Herateis ...so u can respect ppl doing it if theyre from your country but not if htey're labelled "terrorists" and from another country, basically.
Labeled? You either are or you arent. Your goals determines your "label."
Don't be so naive. People don't wake up and think "I'm the bad guy, I'm the terrorist", they are fighting for what they (mistakenly, in my belief) think is "the right thing" to do. What we call 'terrorist' others call 'hero' or 'freedom' fighter. Having lived in the middle east for 18 months, in my experience it's rarely as cut and dried as some armchair analysts (trolls) would like to believe.
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Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.19 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: Pesky LaRue Much respect to the fallen soldier. I'm sorry for his family's loss.
Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
Originally by: Herateis ...so u can respect ppl doing it if theyre from your country but not if htey're labelled "terrorists" and from another country, basically.
Labeled? You either are or you arent. Your goals determines your "label."
Don't be so naive. People don't wake up and think "I'm the bad guy, I'm the terrorist", they are fighting for what they (mistakenly, in my belief) think is "the right thing" to do. What we call 'terrorist' others call 'hero' or 'freedom' fighter. Having lived in the middle east for 18 months, in my experience it's rarely as cut and dried as some armchair analysts (trolls) would like to believe.
whenever it involves killing innocent people for your religious beliefs, it's cut and dried to me. Freedom fighter? Freedom to kill arbitrarily perhaps.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.06.19 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1 07 My condolences for the loss of your friend. Some people in this thread apparently don't realize that this thread is NOT about... ... them, or their opinion about war and the people that fight them. ... the philosophical differences between a "hero" or a "terrorist". ... how the man died, where the man died, or what kind of man he was in life. This thread IS about people expressing sadness over the fact that a friend has died, someone they may very well have spoken with on a nightly basis... and other people expressing their sympathy or simply paying their respects on the passing of a fellow hobbyist. Airing your personal philosophy is best reserved for another thread, one of your own making.
most lol post Ive seen in a while. I'll fix it for you.
Originally by: Ranger 1 07 Some people in this thread apparently don't realize that this thread is NOT about... ... them, or their opinion about war and the people that fight them unless you think they're a hero and doing good for us. ... the philosophical differences between a "hero" or a "terrorist", unless you say he was a great man for fighting evil on "our" behalf. ... how the man died, where the man died, or what kind of man he was in life, unless you say he was a hero in life for fighting in afghan.
FYP. you guys do the same thing, but then get butthurt when people do the same when it is disagreeable to your opinions. get real. shall I post the deaths of the people who flew the planes into the towers? we could offer our condolences to them and their familes, yet you guys would get ****ed right? people would say "those evil ppl dont deserve condolences". Well then, you'd also be putting your personal opinion in a thread. The Condolences? Those are personal
My comments were directed at both sides, you insipid little twit.
If you were so busy being a prima donna, you might have noticed that. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you. |
CausticS0da
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Posted - 2010.06.19 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
Originally by: Pesky LaRue Much respect to the fallen soldier. I'm sorry for his family's loss.
Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
Originally by: Herateis ...so u can respect ppl doing it if theyre from your country but not if htey're labelled "terrorists" and from another country, basically.
Labeled? You either are or you arent. Your goals determines your "label."
Don't be so naive. People don't wake up and think "I'm the bad guy, I'm the terrorist", they are fighting for what they (mistakenly, in my belief) think is "the right thing" to do. What we call 'terrorist' others call 'hero' or 'freedom' fighter. Having lived in the middle east for 18 months, in my experience it's rarely as cut and dried as some armchair analysts (trolls) would like to believe.
whenever it involves killing innocent people for your religious beliefs, it's cut and dried to me. Freedom fighter? Freedom to kill arbitrarily perhaps.
So killing innocent people for your cultural beliefs is okay? All of this is bad from both sides.
He died fighting for oil companies and corps such as Halliburton - not for 'our' benefit. I feel sorry for him and others who have been tricked into this and my condolences go out to his family and friends: another wasted life.
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Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.19 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: CausticS0da
So killing innocent people for your cultural beliefs is okay? All of this is bad from both sides.
He died fighting for oil companies and corps such as Halliburton - not for 'our' benefit. I feel sorry for him and others who have been tricked into this and my condolences go out to his family and friends: another wasted life.
What part of 9/11 dont you get?
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CausticS0da
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Posted - 2010.06.19 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Edited by: Nooma K''Larr on 19/06/2010 08:37:53
Originally by: CausticS0da
So killing innocent people for your cultural beliefs is okay? All of this is bad from both sides.
He died fighting for oil companies and corps such as Halliburton - not for 'our' benefit. I feel sorry for him and others who have been tricked into this and my condolences go out to his family and friends: another wasted life.
What part of 9/11 dont you get? That was no "trick."
So a small group of psychos committing an atrocity justifies the invasion of a country, the murder of countless innocent civilians, and the deaths of even more innocent Americans? Not only that, but the world is now irrevocably more dangerous for all of us?
You should get your news from sources other than Fox. You are completely in the minority in your way of thinking - even in the US.
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Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.19 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: CausticS0da
Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Edited by: Nooma K''Larr on 19/06/2010 08:37:53
Originally by: CausticS0da
So killing innocent people for your cultural beliefs is okay? All of this is bad from both sides.
He died fighting for oil companies and corps such as Halliburton - not for 'our' benefit. I feel sorry for him and others who have been tricked into this and my condolences go out to his family and friends: another wasted life.
What part of 9/11 dont you get? That was no "trick."
So a small group of psychos committing an atrocity justifies the invasion of a country, the murder of countless innocent civilians, and the deaths of even more innocent Americans? Not only that, but the world is now irrevocably more dangerous for all of us?
You should get your news from sources other than Fox. You are completely in the minority in your way of thinking - even in the US.
I suppose 1941's Pearl Harbor was just a minor incident by a group of psychos that didn't justify a war either.
Forget it...you're hopeless. Oh, and I dont watch FOX. It's for morons.
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Lathlrilanq
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Posted - 2010.06.19 09:13:00 -
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R.I.P. o7
(to all those arguing, take it somewhere else please, start a new thread if you must, just have a little respect)
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Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.19 09:21:00 -
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Originally by: Lathlrilanq R.I.P. o7
(to all those arguing, take it somewhere else please, start a new thread if you must, just have a little respect)
The "argument" is basically over some people calling his death worthless. A person died so others could live safe lives.
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Cat Sune
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Posted - 2010.06.19 09:36:00 -
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Helmand province strikes again!
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Intrepid Explorer
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Posted - 2010.06.19 09:45:00 -
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Just wanna start out by saying, though I generally disagree with most of the polital decision in USA (especially wardecking bonanza by george W), the war in Afghanistan is probably the most justified conflict USA has been in since WWII. I'm not saying all who are there are doing it for 'the right cause', which I would say is to uphold the human rights and prevent acts of terror. I'm not saying the methods used there are right either, just that there are good reasons for foreign military forces to be there.
With that out of the way..
Those who posts these kind of threads, please learn from history. You will get trolled, and you will get posts from people disagreeing about the person beeing a noble hero. It's not that hard to understand. For the people who get shot at (including civilans), it's kinda hard to think of them as heroes. Then when there are stories of 'heroes' running around raping/murdering defenceless civilians, it's kinda hard to just say "He was a soldier, a real hero", without really knowing him. And for those playing the religious card 'crazy terrorists think they will go to paradise with virgins', I assume you are christians, and I just wanna say keep in mind most of islam and christianity is the same at it's core. Just in most western countries, and some arabic, we have become secularized so we don't have to run around and kill people by stoning them if they are gay/different religion (which the bible tells us to). If you don't want crazy suicidebombers, reducing the impact religion has on politics is the way to go. And as far as 'first blood'... when it comes to the religions i belive it was the pope that started the crusades that could be considered the culprit (yes, for religous people that kind of stuff still matters).
And my serious condoleances to his friend and family, as well as to the innocent civilians that die in the conflict. May democracy prevail.
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Johnnyan
Caldari Johnnyan Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.19 09:46:00 -
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R.I.P.
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Geofriam Authen
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Posted - 2010.06.19 10:00:00 -
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Former US Army here, and I still have mates humping their asses off in those hell holes. One of my good friends, with whom I served closely with for over three years died not too long ago in Iraq to an RPG, a good natured and very earnest corn-bred country boy from Georgia. I fondly remember talking smack and playing video games with him in the barracks, teasing him with some of the other guys the night he lost his virginity, and other good times. Now he's dead like so many others. It's truly very sad when you think about it.
I didn't know you Droma Njo, but I hope your soul is at peace. My thoughts and sympathies go out to your family and friends.
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2010.06.19 10:00:00 -
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His pod was cracked open.
This should really be in Out of Pod Experience. ---
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Skydell
Umbrella Amarr
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Posted - 2010.06.19 10:06:00 -
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/salute |
Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.06.19 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: omgfreemoniez Post the killmail or I won't believe you.
Show some respect man. Seriously.
RIP soldier. Fly safe. .o7
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Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.19 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: Intrepid Explorer
And for those playing the religious card 'crazy terrorists think they will go to paradise with virgins', I assume you are christians, and I just wanna say keep in mind most of islam and christianity is the same at it's core. Just in most western countries, and some arabic, we have become secularized so we don't have to run around and kill people by stoning them if they are gay/different religion (which the bible tells us to).
I disagree. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Islam makes no such allowances.
Originally by: Intrepid Explorer
If you don't want crazy suicidebombers, reducing the impact religion has on politics is the way to go. And as far as 'first blood'... when it comes to the religions i belive it was the pope that started the crusades that could be considered the culprit (yes, for religous people that kind of stuff still matters).
Yeah, quite a few centuries ago. Dont confuse Catholicism with Christianity though. They are not the same.
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Intrepid Explorer
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Posted - 2010.06.19 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
I disagree. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Islam makes no such allowances.
And christianity says you should execute ALL male prisoners of war. That all gay people should be stoned to death. That a woman that get's rap**, and isn't heard screaming for help should be stoned to death. It also supports slavery (a slave should not speak against his master, his place is only to serve..). There are many lovely things in both christianity and islam, unless you have your own personal make-belive version of christianity please don't pretend it's all good and islam is bad. (I'm from a christian family, obv not a believer)
Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
Dont confuse Catholicism with Christianity though. They are not the same.
Well, I'm just going by what it says in the bible. So unless your version of christianity says that some things in the bible is a lie.....
Again, I'm not just here to bash on the christians. I'm just saying 'my religion is good and correct' arguments are ..... biased.
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ObviousTroll Alt
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2010.06.19 11:03:00 -
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ALL religions are bad. Do you still believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny? No? Then why do you believe in God? All three have one thing in common.
They are Imaginary.
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Suicida1
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Posted - 2010.06.19 11:08:00 -
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My condolences goes to all the families who are suffering because of opium fields protected by US in Afganistan.
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1Ekrid1
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Posted - 2010.06.19 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
Originally by: Intrepid Explorer
And for those playing the religious card 'crazy terrorists think they will go to paradise with virgins', I assume you are christians, and I just wanna say keep in mind most of islam and christianity is the same at it's core. Just in most western countries, and some arabic, we have become secularized so we don't have to run around and kill people by stoning them if they are gay/different religion (which the bible tells us to).
I disagree. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Islam makes no such allowances.
Originally by: Intrepid Explorer
If you don't want crazy suicidebombers, reducing the impact religion has on politics is the way to go. And as far as 'first blood'... when it comes to the religions i belive it was the pope that started the crusades that could be considered the culprit (yes, for religous people that kind of stuff still matters).
Yeah, quite a few centuries ago. Dont confuse Catholicism with Christianity though. They are not the same.
the old testament and the new testament of the bible read like a philosophical argumentation between two people. also, the old testament is the one about killing slaves and gays, the new testament is the hippie version that is exactly like buddhism (probably because it got influences from when it came into the middle east), and oh yeah, both christianity/catholocism and muslim have their roots where? The middle east.
clue, get, a? There's 1, repeat 1, frigate in the T1 lineup designed to be a suicide tackler. the rest are for COMBAT. so don't tell me to tackle when I'm in a combat T1 frig. OR tell CCP to fix their mess. |
bigfatbird
Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.19 11:11:00 -
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o7 farewell sir!
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Unity Love
Caldari Dissonance Corp
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Posted - 2010.06.19 11:16:00 -
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Guys please cut the chat his family may read this and what they need is support.
My deepest condolences, an honour to be in the same alliance as someone who has served, and died, for their morals.
o7
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CausticS0da
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Posted - 2010.06.19 11:55:00 -
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Edited by: CausticS0da on 19/06/2010 11:58:24 This isn't even about EVE.
Edit: Sorry Nooma you really need help (just read your replies).
That's me done on this. RIP to the human that died.
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Monotune
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2010.06.19 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Edited by: Nooma K''Larr on 19/06/2010 08:43:11
Originally by: CausticS0da
So killing innocent people for your cultural beliefs is okay? All of this is bad from both sides.
He died fighting for oil companies and corps such as Halliburton - not for 'our' benefit. I feel sorry for him and others who have been tricked into this and my condolences go out to his family and friends: another wasted life.
What part of 9/11 dont you get? That was no "trick."
He died to keep this from happening again.
You think slaughtering innocent people in Afghanistan and Iraq is justified because of 9/11? If the USA stopped meddling and interfering in the middle east 30 years ago you would still have two tall buildings now.
OIL is the only reason USA is on foreign ground, please take your ****ty patroism somewhere else.
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Jasdemi
Caldari Caldari Manufacturing
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Posted - 2010.06.19 12:29:00 -
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Who got his stuff?
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Napro
Caldari Buccaneers of New Eden death from above..
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Posted - 2010.06.19 12:35:00 -
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Holy Crap.
As an Active Duty military member... I say keep this off the forums. PERIOD. Anyone with a working brain cell knows what these threads degenerate into.
OP is a moron.
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2010.06.19 12:36:00 -
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Can we lock this?
Dignity is far to seek these days I see.
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.19 13:15:00 -
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Moved from General Discussion to OOPE.
We are very sorry for your loss.
Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online
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