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Pho Ku
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Posted - 2010.06.20 20:56:00 -
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Is it worth starting? I can only assume that high sec has been ravaged in terms of available resources, where the chance of finding a nice, small source of income is very slim.
I have not tried PI yet, and it does look like a worthwhile and (fairly) simple side activity. Should I bother? Any advice would be welcomed.
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Di Mulle
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Posted - 2010.06.20 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Pho Ku Is it worth starting? I can only assume that high sec has been ravaged in terms of available resources, where the chance of finding a nice, small source of income is very slim.
I have not tried PI yet, and it does look like a worthwhile and (fairly) simple side activity. Should I bother? Any advice would be welcomed.
Because planets, be it in highsec or 0.0, just can't be "ravaged", by the very design of PI, your question actually makes no sense. It is never too late.
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.06.20 23:30:00 -
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It's never "too late" to start with PI. Starting on the first day of PI, starting now, or starting 6 months from now, at any given time, everybody has almost identical results at that exact time, by design.
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Baka Lakadaka
Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.21 02:11:00 -
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There are a few people already dropping out of PI because it didn't meet their expectations.
There will be people dropping in and out all the time. As more people clamber on to the high-sec Plasma planets to produce robotics and things, the resources will begin to deplete and profits will drop. Others will realise that Oxygen is an easy product that's in short supply because everyone wanted the high profits from the Plasma planets. Meanwhile the low yields in Plasma planets will increase as players get the dirts with what they thought was a gold-mine. At the same time, no-one's looked at Enriched Uranium, which is another fairly easy build but the prices will go up because there's little supply.
The above is all made up and hypothetical, but it illustrates that it will be cyclic and being able to move into the right product at the right time will enable anyone to get into the market. It's really no different to any other product in Eve. ______________________ Agony Unleashed Home of the PvP University |
Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Reckoning.
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Posted - 2010.06.21 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: Pho Ku Is it worth starting? I can only assume that high sec has been ravaged in terms of available resources, where the chance of finding a nice, small source of income is very slim.
I have not tried PI yet, and it does look like a worthwhile and (fairly) simple side activity. Should I bother? Any advice would be welcomed.
Pretty much what's posted above. A planet is never "taken". You can always put stuff down, it's just that too many people on a planet depletes it faster.
There's plenty of hisec areas that are downright desolate. Find yourself an isolated spot (the starmap filters are useful for this) and enjoy. Or find an isolated pocket of lowsec.
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Lord Grimmas
Azure Freelancers
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Posted - 2010.06.21 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Pho Ku I have not tried PI yet, and it does look like a worthwhile and (fairly) simple side activity. Should I bother? Any advice would be welcomed.
Getting it up and running is the fun part. Once you actually have it working, all you end up doing is refreshing the extractors every X hours and importing/exporting products at the customs office. It's a mind-numbingly boring activity.
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Pho Ku
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Posted - 2010.06.21 11:04:00 -
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Thanks for the answers everyone; I'll give it a spin and see what happens.
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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
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Posted - 2010.06.21 11:43:00 -
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Not too late at all.
I setup 3 more planets this weekend (including one on a Plasma).
Went back and tweeked my original planet too.
Seems a lot of people are finding it boring, so there may well be a lot of non-running setups on the planets you find.... Not sure if you can see if someone elses infrastructure is running or abandoned.
------------------------ Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer "I've got a couple of Strippers on my ship... and they just love to dance!" ------------------------ |
Ran Abraham
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Posted - 2010.06.21 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Grimmas
Getting it up and running is the fun part. Once you actually have it working, all you end up doing is refreshing the extractors every X hours and importing/exporting products at the customs office. It's a mind-numbingly boring activity.
The thing is in EVE, everything has 'mind-numbingly boring' parts; mining, gate camps, POS takedown, endless roaming...you get the idea. Make it what you want. The actual extracting of the resources is just the start. Figuring out what to do next provides another level to it. The nice thing about it is, you don't need to babysit if you don't want to. Go do other 'Exciting' things!
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Xidson Wreth
Caldari Essential Resources Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.21 17:03:00 -
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I also have 3 planets setup that will probably generate an extra 4-6 Million extra ISK a day for a few mouse clicks. Pay attention the the market, see what's selling, and get that. 30 minutes of research will turn a 300K ISK day into a 1.5 Million ISK day.
Xidson Wreth CEO Essential Resources Inc.
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LonTas 5
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.21 19:01:00 -
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Never too late. Anything but basic will be a waste of ISK, judging by the profits ive seen people making (IE: a few mil a day with very good items). I set up a basic: try this
Storage Command Center Processor Extractor Extractor Extractor
It works and you can route all. I've found some quite good planets, but the Gas Giants are basically CLOGGED with people (8-9 colonies a planet ). I make like a mil a wk. Not good but its interesting to have a part in PI. LONTAS 5 |
Lledrith
Ex Caminus
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Posted - 2010.06.21 23:24:00 -
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its never to late and it is not boring. but boredom is what affect most players. EvE concept is with the hole idea of try alittle bit of everything and you will find a attraction to most of them. I see most players doing it with the mentality of making me more Isk. miners are happy with acquiring more in a passive way.
I presume some Pirates Groups are now seen the potencial the is going to add at some point new Randsom and KM's in their Regions. Industrialist Corporations are super glad with PI, something that is generating Both PoS fuel increasing their production and income to a new level, while Freighters, Haulers may see a really small booming if galaxy population doesn't ruin it with their greed.
Quote: I can only assume that high sec has been ravaged in terms of available resources, where the chance of finding a nice, small source of income is very slim.
I dont think there is a limit of how many systems you can set a Command Center per planet, so making it micromanagable could become new carrier to a new player as well an old one. if not i would like to be corrected on that from any advance PI entrepreneurs.
It is all in how you aproach it and find a way to interact that make it facinating. Welcome to Planet interaction and all its possibilities.
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ChrisIsherwood
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Posted - 2010.06.22 04:30:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T It's never "too late" to start with PI. Starting on the first day of PI, starting now, or starting 6 months from now, at any given time, everybody has almost identical results at that exact time, by design.
True.
Well, if you read one of the Akita posts and bought NPC goods they day before the first day of NPC-orderless PI, then you could double your ISK in a day. To date, the best way to profit from PI has been to not do PI.
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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
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Posted - 2010.06.22 10:16:00 -
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Another thing to think about is that its not always about isk/hour.
I like to consider myself as a self sufficient player.
With PI at the moment I am processing the 5 POS fuel items and storing them ready for when i build a POS.
Once its set up, a process which I quite enjoy... All you need to do is update your extractors (once a day in my processes). This can be done while mining or doing something else and it is not really that much work.
------------------------ Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer "I've got a couple of Strippers on my ship... and they just love to dance!" ------------------------ |
Pho Ku
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Posted - 2010.06.22 12:07:00 -
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As it stands, I have set up a base. It's a lava planet in a 0.5, and quite out of the way. So far I've been stockpiling the products, and I have no idea if my products will be valuable in any way in the future.
But, I am enjoying it.
I read Louis' guide (nice work) and it greatly helped, much more so than CCP's video tutorial. As I have yet to sell anything, I cannot fathom whether it is worth upgrading from a limited command centre to a standard. I could certainly use another production facility on my current (and only) planet, so I may make the investment when I branch out.
My plan for the short term is to get 3 healthy colonies set up nearby on other Lava planets. I also have my eye on one in a quiet lowsec next door, although the scans do not show too much improvement on what I have already found in my 0.5. We'll see.
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Sully Tude
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Posted - 2010.06.22 12:49:00 -
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I can confirm that the plasma planets are basically swamped with people, and don't really give out much anymore. I still stick with a couple because, well, they look cool :)
One thing that I'm not sure was mentioned is low-sec planets. Despite being in low-sec, they're actually pretty safe to use. You only need to go to them like once to drop off the command center, and then once a week or so to pick up your products.
No pirate in their right mind will camp a customs office that sees a ship maybe once every couple days, and the resources are a little more plentiful than in high-sec, plus there are usually fewer people on the planets (especially the ones in deep low-sec). |
Louis deGuerre
Gallente Amicus Morte Shock an Awe
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Posted - 2010.06.22 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Pho Ku I read Louis' guide (nice work) and it greatly helped, much more so than CCP's video tutorial.
Thanks Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenĘt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
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Lee009
Gallente Imperial Tau Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.22 15:02:00 -
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If your going into low sec do not go in unless you have a blockade runner with these fits
Nanofiber Internal Structure II Synthetic Hull Conversion Inertia Stabilizers I Synthetic Hull Conversion Inertia Stabilizers I
ECM Burst II Invulnerability Field II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing II
Go in anything less and you will die.
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Ran Abraham
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Posted - 2010.06.22 15:52:00 -
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One last thing to consider is not just that 'it's not always about ISK/Hour', but more importantly it's not about ISK at all!! This is a GAME, a distraction, a hobby, pass-time, and yes maybe an addiction. Most make ISK their reason to play, but why. I unwind from work, life, and generally everything when I fire up EVE. If PI is enjoyable, then do it man!! Being a Pirate isn't the richest profession either nor is a suicide ganker, but obviously people find the fun factor more important than the ISK factor.
If it feels good, do it!
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