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Ikoras
Minmatar Final Agony B A N E
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Posted - 2010.06.20 21:05:00 -
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Well put about low sec. It does need a little bit more love as the benefits for low sec pvpers isn't that great. Even with the BS rats it still isn't attracting enough people to leave empire.
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Lasakywa
Caldari Section XIII Cursed Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.20 21:30:00 -
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Okay.
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RS Murphy
Amarr League of Gentlemen Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2010.06.20 21:31:00 -
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Tbh, I think it needs to be more like nerf highsec. Buffing lowsec will just make it 0.0 with sec status. Only way to make them move is kill lvl 4's in highsec.
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Ikoras
Minmatar Final Agony B A N E
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Posted - 2010.06.20 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: Ikoras on 20/06/2010 22:04:20
Originally by: RS Murphy Tbh, I think it needs to be more like nerf highsec. Buffing lowsec will just make it 0.0 with sec status. Only way to make them move is kill lvl 4's in highsec.
While I agree with you on one aspect i don't agree with the other. currently lvl 4's net what, 100mill avg per hour.low sec fw missions net double that. the problem is you need a bs (or drake/cmd ship)to do those lvl4's while you can do the low sec missions in a frig.
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Nagapito
Gallente Victim Support
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Posted - 2010.06.20 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ikoras Edited by: Ikoras on 20/06/2010 22:04:20
Originally by: RS Murphy Tbh, I think it needs to be more like nerf highsec. Buffing lowsec will just make it 0.0 with sec status. Only way to make them move is kill lvl 4's in highsec.
While I agree with you on one aspect i don't agree with the other. currently lvl 4's net what, 100mill avg per hour.low sec fw missions net double that. the problem is you need a bs (or drake/cmd ship)to do those lvl4's while you can do the low sec missions in a frig.
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.... 100M/hour!!?!?
I still remember when dominion hits ppl complaining about the L4's giving 50M hour, wich was well over the real value and now you say 100M! And 200M/hour for a FW L4? Where do you guys throw out this numbers?!?!? Do you really have a clue what you talking about?
Ohhh, and dont forget that L4's income was nerfed! And also, you need two guys to speed tank a L4 FW mission, so, profit is split between them...
200/M hour in FW missions and no one would be pewing but just running missions.
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Ikoras
Minmatar Final Agony B A N E
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Posted - 2010.06.20 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Nagapito
Originally by: Ikoras Edited by: Ikoras on 20/06/2010 22:04:20
Originally by: RS Murphy Tbh, I think it needs to be more like nerf highsec. Buffing lowsec will just make it 0.0 with sec status. Only way to make them move is kill lvl 4's in highsec.
While I agree with you on one aspect i don't agree with the other. currently lvl 4's net what, 100mill avg per hour.low sec fw missions net double that. the problem is you need a bs (or drake/cmd ship)to do those lvl4's while you can do the low sec missions in a frig.
I am Clearly an Idiot when it comes to running missions
I fixed your quote and if you seriously think people are only making 50mil per hour running lvl 4's you're either doing it hell of wrong or haven't got a clue.
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Nagapito
Gallente Victim Support
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Posted - 2010.06.20 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ikoras Edited by: Ikoras on 20/06/2010 22:39:31 Edited by: Ikoras on 20/06/2010 22:37:30
Originally by: Nagapito
Originally by: Ikoras Edited by: Ikoras on 20/06/2010 22:04:20
Originally by: RS Murphy Tbh, I think it needs to be more like nerf highsec. Buffing lowsec will just make it 0.0 with sec status. Only way to make them move is kill lvl 4's in highsec.
While I agree with you on one aspect i don't agree with the other. currently lvl 4's net what, 100mill avg per hour.low sec fw missions net double that. the problem is you need a bs (or drake/cmd ship)to do those lvl4's while you can do the low sec missions in a frig.
I am Clearly an Idiot when it comes to running missions
I fixed your quote and if you seriously think people are only making 50mil per hour running lvl 4's you're either doing it hell of wrong or haven't got a clue. btw it isn't about the bounty's or loot, it's all about the LP also it takes 1 bomber to run fw lvl 4's. if you need 2 people it's because you suck
You right, I dont know much about carebearing. Its too much boring....
But still, at 100 or 200M per hour I could give it a try! Could you teach me?
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Ikoras
Minmatar Final Agony B A N E
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Posted - 2010.06.20 22:58:00 -
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Sure come to Amamake and we can form a fleet
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Proclus Diadochu
Caldari Varion Galactic OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.20 23:19:00 -
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Not to sound rude, and I have no clue about mission running and complexes, but what does this have to do with CAOD? Isn't there a forum for mission running topics...
TBH, I prefer reading about the power blocks fighting and reading about battles we have while I'm unavailable to play, not really concerned about missions in lowsec.
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Muad' Dib
Gallente Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.21 01:08:00 -
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Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 21/06/2010 01:09:12
Originally by: Ikoras Edited by: Ikoras on 20/06/2010 22:04:20
Originally by: RS Murphy Tbh, I think it needs to be more like nerf highsec. Buffing lowsec will just make it 0.0 with sec status. Only way to make them move is kill lvl 4's in highsec.
While I agree with you on one aspect i don't agree with the other. currently lvl 4's net what, 100mill avg per hour.low sec fw missions net double that. the problem is you need a bs (or drake/cmd ship)to do those lvl4's while you can do the low sec missions in a frig.
LVL4's in high make about 20-30m isk / h. I'd say that atm low-sec is already one of the richest places in EVE, you can make more isk in low-sec than you can in 0.0 in many cases. A more diverse approach to this would be needed but i honestly doubt CCP will implement it.
PS: Low-sec doesn't mean just top belt of Amamake in a Rapier dude. :) --- I smack just for myself. Allow faction cap boosters to be traded via normal market ! |
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Ikoras
Minmatar Final Agony B A N E
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Posted - 2010.06.21 01:15:00 -
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Edited by: Ikoras on 21/06/2010 01:16:16
Originally by: Proclus Diadochu Not to sound rude, and I have no clue about mission running and complexes, but what does this have to do with CAOD? Isn't there a forum for mission running topics...
TBH, I prefer reading about the power blocks fighting and reading about battles we have while I'm unavailable to play, not really concerned about missions in lowsec.
I originally had this in the alliance tourney section as a response to one of verone's comments, how it ended up in CAOD is beyond me, especially since I haven't browsed in this part of the forum all week.
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ChYph3r
Minmatar Multiplex Gaming SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.21 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: Proclus Diadochu Not to sound rude, and I have no clue about mission running and complexes, but what does this have to do with CAOD? Isn't there a forum for mission running topics...
TBH, I prefer reading about the power blocks fighting and reading about battles we have while I'm unavailable to play, not really concerned about missions in lowsec.
I have to agree with Proclus on this one! You definitely posted in the wrong section.
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TamiyaCowboy
Caldari HTA Holdings Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.06.21 11:54:00 -
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100m an hour lol give us the ship spec's then.
well said by Verone lowsec does need helping, all these fancy upgrades and still lowsec is left alone. putting lvl4's into lowsec wont do much either tbh,
in my eyes lowsec needs the revamp not PI
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Alazontez Gallenteur
Gallente Wolf-Monkey Bastards
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Posted - 2010.06.21 13:55:00 -
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Edited by: Alazontez Gallenteur on 21/06/2010 13:56:53
Originally by: TamiyaCowboy 100m an hour lol give us the ship spec's then.
well said by Verone lowsec does need helping, all these fancy upgrades and still lowsec is left alone. putting lvl4's into lowsec wont do much either tbh,
in my eyes lowsec needs the revamp not PI
Couldn't have said it better myself. Gotta agree about the numbers thing too. When I mission its just for the bounties and LP, including what I sell off in LP, I pull in maybe 15M per hour on average. Sometimes its significantly higher (like a good spawn in Worlds Collide) but thats what it is most of time. Granted, I do missions semi afk with an ultra tanked Domi with good drone skills. I know people that use torp ships that get significantly higher, but you're still talking like 25 - 30M per hour. And this is with really good social skills boosting both the isk and LP rewards.
Also, gotta agree with the confusion over this getting moved here. Usually the buff lowsec / nerf highsec level 4's threads are in C&P.
Also, for all the people that say nerf level 4's, that still wont bring the bears out in front of your guns. They'll just run level 3's all the time or start mining. Only reason level 4's are the top carebearing activity in highsec is because they are currently the most profitable in isk per hour. The only way to get all the carebears out of highsec is to remove highsec. ---------------------------------------------- There is no honor in war, only victory and defeat
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