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ralph4
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Posted - 2010.06.21 18:45:00 -
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hey guys this probly is'nt the place to be asking but I could use some help finding a new PC right now im currently looking at the Dell - Inspiron Desktop with Intel« CoreÖ i5 Processor to replace my old custom built dual core that was running on WIN XP.
anyway I was hopeing to ask if this PC will run eve really well here are the specs
Intel« CoreÖ i5-650 processor Features a 4MB cache and 3.2GHz processor speed. The all new 2010 Intel« CoreÖ i5 processor
Features smart 4-way processing performance with a speed boost. Intel« Turbo Boost Technology Automatically speeds up your processor when your PC needs extra performance. Intel« HD Graphics are built into Intel«'s smart new processors. 8GB DDR3 SDRAM For multitasking power. Multiformat DVD¦RW/CD-RW drive To create custom DVDs and CDs. 1TB Serial ATA hard drive (7200 rpm) Offers spacious storage and fast read/write times. NVIDIA GeForce GT220 graphics Features 1GB dedicated video memory for lush images. HDMI output for connection to an HDTV. 7.1-channel audio support. Multiformat media reader Supports Secure Digital, miniSD, microSD, MultiMediaCard, Reduced-Size MultiMediaCard, RD MultiMediaCard Plus, MultiMediaCard Plus, MultiMediaCard Micro, Memory Stick, Memory Stick Duo and Memory Stick PRO formats. Also supports Memory Stick PRO Duo, Memory Stick Micro, CompactFlash I, CompactFlash II, Smart Media, xD-Picture Card and Microdrive formats 6 high-speed USB 2.0 ports For fast digital data transfer and easy peripheral connectivity. Dell 1525N wireless mini card (802.11b/g/n) To wirelessly connect to the Internet. Built-in 10/100/1000 Ethernet LAN For flexible wired Web connectivity options. Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64-bit operating system preinstalled Provides a stable platform for word processing, Web navigation, gaming, media storage and more. Software package included With Microsoft Works and more. Intel, Pentium, Celeron, Centrino, Core, Viiv, Intel Inside and the Intel Inside logo are trademarks or registered trademarks of Intel Corporation or its subsidiaries in the United States and other countries.
I was hopeing to see and find out it the NVIDIA GeForce GT220 graphics would run eve online seeing as I can't find a more revised thread on the supported graphics cards I could use all the help I can get on this and hopefully this is the right place on the forums to ask for some help. |
Torque Daisy
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.06.21 19:25:00 -
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sure it will run it, it's pretty impossible for a modern PC to not run eve 'really well'
GT220 is an oem type card so you see them in dells, apples, HP, etc; it can do HDTV and dxva, cuda, etc, but for gaming it's pathetic.
build your own though, you know it's the right thing to do.
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ralph4
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Posted - 2010.06.21 20:44:00 -
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so the gt220 is'nt good for gaming i find that kinda hard to believe the best buy clerk said that graphics card could run WOW on med to high so if it can do that to WOW then would'nt that run eve on max graphics?
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ralph4
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Posted - 2010.06.21 21:06:00 -
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build your own though, you know it's the right thing to do.
i would but the last time i did that it lived for 1 year 1/2 and it blew its motherboard and before it did that it blew power sorouces so im not going the custom built way ever again.
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Lithalnas
Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.21 21:17:00 -
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First I would like to say that you should build your own computer. Second we collectively would like to know your budget.
Something like This from newegg is about half a system and $500 Toss in a ATI 5830, power supply, CPU cooler and OS and you are done. -------------
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.06.21 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: ralph4 so the gt220 is'nt good for gaming i find that kinda hard to believe the best buy clerk said that graphics card could run WOW on med to high so if it can do that to WOW then would'nt that run eve on max graphics?
He lied, or rather omitted the truth.
It'll run WoW on "Med to High" settings, but you wont get any FPS worth writing home about. |
ralph4
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Posted - 2010.06.21 22:12:00 -
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Edited by: ralph4 on 21/06/2010 22:18:27 Edited by: ralph4 on 21/06/2010 22:14:35
Originally by: Lithalnas First I would like to say that you should build your own computer. Second we collectively would like to know your budget.
Something like This from newegg is about half a system and $500 Toss in a ATI 5830, power supply, CPU cooler and OS and you are done.
well the most im gonna spend is 880$ thats basically the tower with sales tax and i would go with a custom built maybe in a few more years but i need a computer thats gonna work for at least 10 years and if i got a custom built computer it'd probly be blown power sorurces all of over again. so im just gonna play it safe and get a factory built PC. and i'll see about getting a 1 GB gb Nvidea or hower u spell it put it in if i do it'll most likely be 9800 series.
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Lithalnas
Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.21 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: ralph4 Edited by: ralph4 on 21/06/2010 22:14:35
well the most im gonna spend is 880$ thats basically the tower with sales tax and i would go with a custom built maybe in a few more years but i need a computer thats gonna work for at least 10 years and if i got a custom built computer it'd probly be blown power sorurces all of over again. so im just gonna play it safe and get a factory built PC. and i'll see about getting a 1 GB gb Nvidea or hower u spell it put it in if i do it'll most likely be 9800 serries.
$877 for a quality part machine -------------
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ralph4
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Posted - 2010.06.21 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Lithalnas
Originally by: ralph4 Edited by: ralph4 on 21/06/2010 22:14:35
well the most im gonna spend is 880$ thats basically the tower with sales tax and i would go with a custom built maybe in a few more years but i need a computer thats gonna work for at least 10 years and if i got a custom built computer it'd probly be blown power sorurces all of over again. so im just gonna play it safe and get a factory built PC. and i'll see about getting a 1 GB gb Nvidea or hower u spell it put it in if i do it'll most likely be 9800 serries.
$877 for a quality part machine
not a bad deal but u forgot 1 thing this computers gonna have 8 gigs of ram not 4. lol but it sounds like a like a really great deal.
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Lithalnas
Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.21 23:15:00 -
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what are you doing that requires 8gigs of ram? Video editing? FEA? Complex biochem simulation?
If you have a winXP disk, you could drop the win7 install for an extra 2 sticks of ram, stay on target and get 8gigs. If you are running one of the before mentioned programs then we are talking about a whole different setup(SSD's + 6 core + intel board w/ 3 dimms). -------------
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ralph4
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Posted - 2010.07.01 22:54:00 -
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hey guys i just got a new update on my dell Dell - Studio XPS Desktop / Intel« CoreÖ i5 Processor / 8GB Memory / 1TB Hard Drive chances are i can turn it into a new gaming PC and i just might have found the grapics card to it.
PNY - NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT 1GB GDDR3 PCI Express Graphics Card
With support for NVIDIA PureVideoHD software SLI-readiness for future expansion, this 1GB graphics card ensures blazing-fast performance, lush colors and dynamic realism for your movies, games and more.
199.99
Product Features Powered by the NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT graphics processing unit (GPU) 1GB GDDR3 memory PCI Express x16 interface Dual RAMDACs at 400MHz each NVIDIA PureVideoHD technology powers smooth DVD playback with accurate color Supports NVIDIA CUDA technology and is NVIDIA PhysX-ready for enhanced high-speed performance NVIDIA SLI technology allows multiple graphics cards to run simultaneously (additional cards not included) 2 dual-link DVI-I connectors; HDTV output PCI 2.0 bus architecture
they have to upgrade my power supply and it if i get their 2 year preimium warranty that should comeout to about 1200$ the questions is will that graphics card be the grapihics tune up my store bought Pc will need to play eve on high graphis?
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ralph4
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Posted - 2010.07.02 22:38:00 -
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come on guys help a fellow eve player out im just asking in my last post for a little bit of help is all.
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2010.07.02 23:08:00 -
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Edited by: Khemul Zula on 02/07/2010 23:09:53
Originally by: Torque Daisy sure it will run it, it's pretty impossible for a modern PC to not run eve 'really well'
This is all the advice you need.
Especially considering that in many cases, you don't want to run EVE with max setting...or good setting...or with much of any of the features turned on to begin with (what? sound?).
Well there is one more bit of advice you can use. Do not get your shopping advice from a Best Buy employee. Under any circumstances. At all.
Originally by: GM Horse I've sadly misplaced my magic "find farmers in ravens" button.
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ralph4
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Posted - 2010.07.03 00:14:00 -
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Edited by: ralph4 on 03/07/2010 00:15:27 Edited by: ralph4 on 03/07/2010 00:14:57
Originally by: Khemul Zula Edited by: Khemul Zula on 02/07/2010 23:09:53
Originally by: Torque Daisy sure it will run it, it's pretty impossible for a modern PC to not run eve 'really well'
This is all the advice you need.
Especially considering that in many cases, you don't want to run EVE with max setting...or good setting...or with much of any of the features turned on to begin with (what? sound?).
Well there is one more bit of advice you can use. Do not get your shopping advice from a Best Buy employee. Under any circumstances. At all.
lol thats pretty good to know i mean the main thing im really looking for is a good graphics card really i mean a list of some some good 1 gig cards would be nice cause thats mainly the only part im really after now.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
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Posted - 2010.07.03 07:38:00 -
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Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 03/07/2010 07:38:26 Eve is really not that demanding, unless you start doing silly things (such as forcing AA via graphics drivers to get rid of all the rough edges).
You don't mention what currency you're paying in, but 199.99 sounds like it might be quite a lot for a 9800GT, a card available on Newegg for as little as $65 - it's a reasonable card, but there are much better ones around. It would help to know what your budget is and where you're buying. --- 34.4:1 mineral compression |
Siigari Kitawa
Gallente Luxury Exports The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2010.07.03 07:54:00 -
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Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 03/07/2010 07:59:17 Hey man, if you want to shell out some easy money on a video card, go to Best Buy and buy a 260 GTX for < $150. I just got a 260 GTX for $137 (on clearance) and it's spectacular. Plus, it's extremely overclockable (I'm running 25% faster than stock, at 726 Mhz.)
edit: Also, the 220 GT is not a HORRIBLE card, it was what I played Eve on for a very long time. It gave me acceptable framerates (30+ FPS typically) and even COD:MW2 gave me 30+ FPS in multiplayer. But yeah, a better card is highly suggested.
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Zytani
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Posted - 2010.07.03 16:25:00 -
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Edited by: Zytani on 03/07/2010 16:24:56 if your mobo died after 1 1/2 years it should still be in warranty (typically 2 years)
if your getting surges buy a qood quality surge protector and a good quality power supply unit (NEVER GO TIGHTWADDED WHEN IT COMES TO PSU's) cheap psu will blow much sooner and do more damage than a good quality one
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CCP Adida
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.03 19:58:00 -
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I usually end up building my own pcs because I'll make them last several years through upgrades. The problem I've come across with Dell computers is that sometimes they put technical limitations on upgrading. My first Dell didn't even have an agp (before pci express) slot so I could never upgrade the graphics card. Recently I ran into an issue with my HTPC which is a Dell and can't add an additional hard drive.
The nice thing about building your own is that you can pick and choose your motherboard so if you want to do additional upgrades later on you can do so. If you aren't comfortable putting together your machine there's probably a local shop that could put it together for you for a reasonable cost.
Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online
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ralph4
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Posted - 2010.07.03 23:06:00 -
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Edited by: ralph4 on 03/07/2010 23:15:48 yeah i mean i'd still build a good PC but if i get this dell I5 im gonna want it to last at least 10-15 years I pretty much know how far a good computer like the I5 would go.
now if i was to put in that 9800 GT by nvidea they'd have to get me a bigger power supply I mean if I just said ok go ahead and do the upgrade the whole things gonna be 1500$ and thats pretty much getting me a really powerful gaming PC for a store bought computer that is and if you guys need to see the specs their in my first post from when i opened this topic.
as for a custom built PC lets just say my EXP was'nt very enjoyable with it and it was like a one big head ache to me it mostly blew power sources and even though it ran pretty fast back in the days of XP it finally after 2 years it just said im gonna blow my motherboard the by the time this power source blows so i dunno about this owner but im on my way out the door kind of deal and i got it pretty cheap it was used but it lived it's life.
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Hatherley
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Posted - 2010.07.03 23:56:00 -
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15 years? that would be like still using a 486 DX100 today My own PC was built 3 years ago; The PSU, CPU (e4500), Motherboard (p35ds3r), are holding up very well, but through upgrades other components have been replaced, with the old ones sold on ebay to ameliorate the costs. For example my original graphics card was an 8600GT, which I upgraded to the ATI HD 4770, drastically better and indeed, better than a 9800GT, and only cost ú75...
Judging by your posts however it would probably be best if you bought a pre-built PC, let others do all the building, setting up and worrying and indeed, pay the price premium it entails.
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ralph4
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Posted - 2010.07.04 02:47:00 -
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Originally by: Hatherley 15 years? that would be like still using a 486 DX100 today My own PC was built 3 years ago; The PSU, CPU (e4500), Motherboard (p35ds3r), are holding up very well, but through upgrades other components have been replaced, with the old ones sold on ebay to ameliorate the costs. For example my original graphics card was an 8600GT, which I upgraded to the ATI HD 4770, drastically better and indeed, better than a 9800GT, and only cost ú75...
Judging by your posts however it would probably be best if you bought a pre-built PC, let others do all the building, setting up and worrying and indeed, pay the price premium it entails.
thats not a bad point at all i don't have to put in a 9800GT i could just just go with an even better PNY - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 1.5GB GDDR5 PCI Express Graphics Card
This graphics card features NVIDIA PureVideo HD technology for film-quality color and effects and NVIDIA DirectX 11 support for ultrarealistic images that create lifelike interactivity.
What's Included PNY NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 1.5GB GDDR5 PCI Express Graphics Card PhysX system software, vReveal trial software Installation DVD with NVIDIA graphics drivers and NVIDIA GeForce demos Owner's manual Product Features Powered by the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 graphics processing unit (GPU) Delivers high-quality graphics power. 1.5GB GDDR5 onboard memory Provides the memory needed for visual realism. PCI Express interface Provides compatibility with a range of systems. NVIDIA CUDA technology With CUDA C/C++, Direct Compute 5.0 and OpenCL support unlocks the GPU's processing power to accelerate demanding system tasks. NVIDIA PureVideo HD technology For film-quality color and effects. Also features NVIDIA 3D Vision Surround support. NVIDIA SLI-ready For connecting multiple graphics cards to your system for improved performance (additional graphics cards not included). NVIDIA PhysX technology Provides support for a dynamic and realistic experience. Microsoft DirectX 11 support For ultrarealistic images that create lifelike interactivity. 2 dual-link DVI-I connectors For easy connectivity.
now that model card i could probly get that on ebay for oh say probly 90-150$ max probly i just know that would max out my graphics for sure and well we all know the GTX is a big series to go through and well thats as about as powerful as they get to i think.
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Reiisha
Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.04 16:51:00 -
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Ditch the GeForce, get a Radeon 5870. Much less noise (the GF is LOUD!), power consumption (less power = more stable and cooler) and price for almost exactly the same performance.
Untill NVidia releases a "proper" version of the Fermi core, don't bother with the 400 series.
"If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
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Redflare
Caldari Pandemic Fleet Inc. DEM0N HUNTERS
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Posted - 2010.07.05 21:43:00 -
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ATI/AMD's 5770 is excellent at $150. If you want to go up a bit more for around 20% more performance (and more vram) spend another $30 on their 5850. Anything above that is overkill for everything there is, because prices climb exponentially from there and you get diminishing returns on the amount of cash you're spending. Get an earlier-generation video card if you want something below a 5770: They perform just as well as a 5770 for 2/3 the price (but you get less vram, don' get dx11, etc).
CPU: AMD has very nice quad cores, look them up. Very easy to overclock (you might want to get a 3rd-party cpu cooler). Prices range from $100 to $200 for the top-of-the-line quad cores. Alternatively, their double or triple cores cost a fraction of that. A word of advice: when building your first pc, don't smother the CPU in grease.
Mobo and RAM: Try and get something that will support DDR3. Some motherboard's with AM3+ for AMD's phenom II's (the quad-cores I mentioned) support this new ram. It's cheaper, faster, and comes in larger volumes than DDR2.
Everything else should be pretty easy, as there isn't terribly much variety to choose from. Any new PC with new parts shouldn't cost more than $700. If it does, you're checking the wrong vendor. Check TigerDirect, Newegg, CompUSA, and even check craigslist and ebay for some cheap parts. ____________________________________________ [center]Due to the overwhelming number of people with "Red" in there name, I'd consider it required that everyone call me LOMPOCUS from now on![/c |
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