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Commander Ted
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Posted - 2010.06.22 06:51:00 -
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This basic idea is this: A cruiser sized vessel armed with 1 dreadnaught gun. This would be useful for perhaps mobile artillery in a cap battles or hisec pos sieges. In order to fire the large gun on this ship it would have to spend 30 seconds-2 minutes maybe anchoring itself. Also the ship would need to be supported by a ship giving missles/bullets to a caldari or mimatar version because it would have a smaller cargo hold or have cap transfers if its gallente or amarr. These ships would have the tank of maybe a moa. Also all variations would have 1 high slot. I also may a picture in MS-Paint really quick (Don't mind the horrible job)
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Amerilia
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Posted - 2010.06.22 06:58:00 -
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I highly doubt that this idea is new
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Abdiel Kavash
Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.06.22 06:58:00 -
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Edited by: Abdiel Kavash on 22/06/2010 06:59:08 Why would anyone ever want to field that? A decently fit cruiser far outdamages one dreadnaught turret.
Also, Features & Ideas is that way ----->
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Commander Ted
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Posted - 2010.06.22 06:59:00 -
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i dunno it would have bounuses and stuff? Its a rough draft
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Criss AngeI
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Posted - 2010.06.22 07:01:00 -
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this thing looks more useless then asian people
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Abdiel Kavash
Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.06.22 07:02:00 -
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Edited by: Abdiel Kavash on 22/06/2010 07:01:48 Either you are asking for a cruiser-sized hull with the offensive power of a Dreadnaught, which is a NO, or you are asking for a cruiser with gimped power - in which case, why not just field a regular cruiser/BC/bomber?
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.06.22 07:05:00 -
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Originally by: Amerilia I highly doubt that this idea is new
Yeah, I think the idea of allowing some sort of siege module for bs that ups the dps and lowers tracking was probably the best idea of the bunch for a 'pocket' dread.
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.22 07:08:00 -
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Commander Ted
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Posted - 2010.06.22 07:09:00 -
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Im not asking for either. Dreadnaughts main disadvantage is there guns cant hit much but they hit hard. Cruisers hit ok and hit lots of things. What im saying is a cruiser with almost no tracking but heavy hitting better than a cruiser. Maybe even 1000 dps but horrible horrible tracking. Maybe even worse than a regular dread.
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Terrax Norik
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Posted - 2010.06.22 07:13:00 -
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/facepalm
Think of the forum moderatiors. They have enough to do as it is.
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Aerilis
Gallente Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.22 07:15:00 -
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Edited by: Aerilis on 22/06/2010 07:16:57 Love the paint job
Originally by: Abdiel Kavash Edited by: Abdiel Kavash on 22/06/2010 06:59:08 Why would anyone ever want to field that? A decently fit cruiser far outdamages one dreadnaught turret.
Really now
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IcanhasyouStuff
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Posted - 2010.06.22 07:28:00 -
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Originally by: Aerilis Edited by: Aerilis on 22/06/2010 07:19:08 Love the paint job
Originally by: Abdiel Kavash Edited by: Abdiel Kavash on 22/06/2010 06:59:08 Why would anyone ever want to field that? A decently fit cruiser far outdamages one dreadnaught turret.
Really now
edit: find me a cruiser fit that can do more than 700 DPS for more than a minute
A vexor with heavy electron IIs does around 600 dps. A dual giga pulse laser I does 130 dps with maxed skills and no siege module. If you want a mini-dread just use a battleship.
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Bari Lothar
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Posted - 2010.06.22 07:31:00 -
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dreads are pretty pathetic anyway, nothings more depressing than spending x amount of bill on a ship that only indulges itself in further depression-like activities.
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Aerilis
Gallente Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.22 07:33:00 -
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"dread" "no siege module"
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Commander Ted
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Posted - 2010.06.22 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: IcanhasyouStuff
Originally by: Aerilis Edited by: Aerilis on 22/06/2010 07:19:08 Love the paint job
Originally by: Abdiel Kavash Edited by: Abdiel Kavash on 22/06/2010 06:59:08 Why would anyone ever want to field that? A decently fit cruiser far outdamages one dreadnaught turret.
Really now
edit: find me a cruiser fit that can do more than 700 DPS for more than a minute
A vexor with heavy electron IIs does around 600 dps. A dual giga pulse laser I does 130 dps with maxed skills and no siege module. If you want a mini-dread just use a battleship.
With a siege it does 930. Now the whole idea behind this ship would be that it was anchored so it would be in siege mode. I would ask you to find a cruiser that can deal 1000 dps. Maybe though this ship should be Battleship sized however the idea behind this is pos siegeing in hisec. These would be cheap hi skill ships to brittle for 0.0 easily wiped up by a bomb. Id want these ships to be around 50 mil each making them worth using over a BS.
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Ceraci
Mountain Militia
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Posted - 2010.06.22 07:49:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Ted 1000 dps. - Battleship - pos siegeing in hisec - cheap - 50 mil
'geddon
derp derp derp
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rowbin hod
Cloak and Daggers Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.06.22 07:49:00 -
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Yeah and this new mini-dreadnaught could be called a "Leman Russ". Based on your mockup, that would be an excellent name.
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Xiozor
Tyrans d'Or Umbrella Chemical Inc
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Posted - 2010.06.22 07:51:00 -
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Tech 2?
Sounds like an awful lot of unversatile, uninsurable isk with a paper thin tank.
Why not just take a BS instead. At least that can shoot at something else. ----------------------------------------------- Mr.Kippling just launched a nuclear holocaust at third world countries! ... But he does make exceedingly good cakes. |
Ocih
Amarr The Program Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.06.22 07:52:00 -
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You put alot of work in to the art. I dont want to take that from you but sub capitals so far have failed in EvE. Example? Black Ops.
In the tradition of EvE they could do it and people would buy them. Mostly pirates for high sec and as a cheap option to counter Cap fleets but if CCP added siege like this I would rather they launch it as PvE fleet support for say a 0.0 sec outpost or something. Untill they get the blob issues fixed anything that encouraged even more people to the battlefield is not a benefit. |
Cathy Drall
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2010.06.22 07:52:00 -
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It would be nice to have more "unbalanced" ships like stealth bombers in the game. Not saying the OP's idea is perfect but ships with less tank and more damage or dedicated tanks with less dps would definitely add to the variety.
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Barkaial Starfinder
Minmatar Conflagration.
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Posted - 2010.06.22 08:20:00 -
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Better yet
[Suicide Bombers Dessie Class Ship]
Special: Unstable Core
Destroyer Bonus: 10% bonus radius on core explosion Suicide Bomber Bonus: 20% Th/EM/Exp/Kin Damage on explosion per level
Run to the blob and ignite it
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.22 09:29:00 -
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Moved from General Discussion to Features & Ideas.
Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Commander Ted
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Posted - 2010.06.22 17:41:00 -
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Don't tell me that this wouldn't be awesome though right? In fact how about make these ships replace dreadnaughts entirely! Give these a Extra Extra Large gun and the ship would do 2000 dps! Bonus to ammount of hp/cap received from remote reps/cap transfers. 1 high slot only no mids or lows! Make the tracking so that it is nearly impossible to hit a BS if its moving. Make it for pos sieges! average cost for each would be 200mil! Pretty much remake dreads to be good for killing smaller ships but still be capable for pos sieging as a backup. Carriers can kill cruisers/frigs and now with fighter bombers siege stuff and kill caps. Dreads are only good for pos sieges! Why not give dreads more tracking and make these things the primary ship in pos sieges? The only disadvantage to these ships is that they require to be regularly fed ammo/cap and cant be picked up in a flash because they must be unanchored.
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Commander Ted
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Posted - 2010.06.22 18:43:00 -
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Bump. C'mon this is probably the best video game idea ive had in my life. People have most likely thought of it before but I do not see any flaws in this.
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Aerilis
Gallente Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.22 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Ted Bump. C'mon this is probably the best video game idea ive had in my life. People have most likely thought of it before but I do not see any flaws in this.
Your flaw is in assuming CCP cares about, or reads, this entire forum section. Have you ever noticed how the Harbinger's 7th turret is in a ******ed place? How long do you think that would take to fix? Yet it's been like that for years, despite the many whinings of the forum community. So I wouldn't hold my breath if you're expecting CCP to create an entire new ship class because "it's a good idea"
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Commander Ted
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Posted - 2010.06.22 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Aerilis
Originally by: Commander Ted Bump. C'mon this is probably the best video game idea ive had in my life. People have most likely thought of it before but I do not see any flaws in this.
Your flaw is in assuming CCP cares about, or reads, this entire forum section. Have you ever noticed how the Harbinger's 7th turret is in a ******ed place? How long do you think that would take to fix? Yet it's been like that for years, despite the many whinings of the forum community. So I wouldn't hold my breath if you're expecting CCP to create an entire new ship class because "it's a good idea"
Hell I at least want the idea to catch on. It is a shame I suppose that CCP ignores this section but I want the idea for this to spread and be considered by the player community a good idea. I really think this is whats needed to spice up pos sieges and make dreads useful and fun again.
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Commander Ted
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Posted - 2010.06.22 21:25:00 -
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Gallente Version
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Commander Ted
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Posted - 2010.06.22 21:35:00 -
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due to my lack of creative ability and Paint skills I invite others to make caldari or mimmatar mini dreads or remake mine
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Hidetsuga
Caldari Secret Squirrel Readiness Group Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.06.22 22:14:00 -
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minny wont be hard... take a hump of trash, and put it in another hump of trash. boom. mini dread.
But in all seriousness.... wouldnt these just be another version of a bomber?
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Commander Ted
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Posted - 2010.06.22 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Hidetsuga
But in all seriousness.... wouldnt these just be another version of a bomber?
Small ships? raping dmg?
Well it would be a smaller ship with lots of damage but by no means is it used like a bomber. Bombers are effective against Battleships, BCs, and cruisers but not in a pos siege. These ships would be able to hold out against lots of damage but only good at shooting at cap ships and a pos.
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