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Scout Ops
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.06.22 13:50:00 -
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I call them 'corp jumpers'
me dont like, lack of matureness
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arbiter reformed
Minmatar Reverse Psychology. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.22 13:54:00 -
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i dunno i think im pretty cool
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Usul Atreides
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Posted - 2010.06.22 13:55:00 -
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Well that depends on the age of the character, doesn't it.
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Grez
M. Corp Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.22 13:56:00 -
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Takes people a while to find a corp they like. ---
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Uruloki Isle
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Posted - 2010.06.22 14:11:00 -
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I dunno, one of my characters is less than a year old and has already been in four corps. His first one disbanded, the second one lasted three weeks before following suit, then a friend decided to make a corp and then he quit. Now he's sporting his own corp, though I'll probably join a new one someday.
I wouldn't really call it immature so much as following my buddies into their (failed) dreams of having an awesome mega-corp.
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Lady Ayeipsia
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Posted - 2010.06.22 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: Lady Ayeipsia on 22/06/2010 14:14:50
Originally by: Scout Ops I call them 'corp jumpers'
me dont like, lack of matureness
Wow, that coming from a fellow Red Fed member kind of surprises me. Look at our own corp... our purpose is to provide PvP. Yet, people are allowed to leave for any given reason, then return later. They can leave if they want to help friends, but not run the risk of involving Red Fed. I know I did this once. We had a Wormhole OP for my alliance. I wanted to use my combat character, but not drag Red Fed into any issues that may arrise. I left red, joined back to my old alliance, helped in the op, then rejoined, and two more change on my corp history.
Then what about those who make it their job to start new corps? I started North of the Border for my friends. I had the skills, and the standing to anchor a POS, they did not. Another corp jump, still legitamete and not a lack of matureness, just trying to help friends.
And what of those older players? They may have been in corps that eventually die out. Should they stay with no one else to play or accept a corp is gone and move on. I think this blatant stereotyping is rather poor and shows a lack of matureness far more than having a lot of corps in your employment histroy.
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2010.06.22 14:18:00 -
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Edited by: Serpents smile on 22/06/2010 14:18:46 I rather look at the time they where in a corp. If they change corp like underpants then I have serious doubts this character will be an asset for my corps future.
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Teinyhr
Minmatar Nor'akho Matar
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Posted - 2010.06.22 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Scout Ops I call them 'corp jumpers'
me dont like, lack of matureness
Depends on how old the character is, are the corps still alive, etc. I can't for the life of me understand what the amount of corporations you've been in has to do with "matureness".
I spent about two years in the first corp that recruited me, but then the leadership changed, they went to join a 0.0 alliance and I deciced to leave after the usual 0.0 crap (registering on forums, get vent/TS etc) was imposed on me. Since then I haven't been able to find a corp to suit my playstyle and have had a fair share of one man corps that never went anywhere, and so on. Since my character is about four years old now, that is to be expected in my opinion. Corporations change, people change, people leave.
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Okane Kudasai
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Posted - 2010.06.22 14:24:00 -
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Mmmm matureness ... haven't found that yet ... found maturity
I digress
Change is necessary, and unavoidable.
With change comes understanding and growth. Try to stunt change and you go against the basic principles of life and will not succeed, in fact you do more damage than good
When joining a corp (as with RL) there are people you enjoy and those not as much. When one group outweighs the other you react. Sometime this reaction is to leave the group
Personally I welcome change and will fix it if it ain't broke cos everything can be improved!
So is the mantra of change. Embrace...
*Group hug*
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Gavjack Bunk
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Posted - 2010.06.22 14:35:00 -
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It gives you more ex-CEOs to ask about the guy. -- On planets... nobody can see you macro mining... |
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.06.22 14:35:00 -
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Doesn't matter how many corps someone has been in. Look at Hardin as an example, if his list even loads for you. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Lucia Warbler
Infinite Frontiers
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Posted - 2010.06.22 14:38:00 -
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Number of corporations one has been tells very little, while names of corporations themselves reveal more.
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Faekurias
Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.06.22 14:44:00 -
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I've been in tons, half of which were made by myself due to thinking of silly corpnames or something.
Sometimes I want to get away and just be alone or a few nice bros, but I think my history is pretty cool either way.
I don't jump corps for any reason other than when I feel like I'm alone in it or I don't agree with the general nature of the corp, and figure I might aswell jump back to / or make a new one of my own to *** around in.
I sometiems try out "Noname" corps or "Crapcorps" due to the high chance of finding chill brosefs in them. I'm not really iconizing any corp because OH GOD It's fuggen XXX.
Although I must say I like the general idea of PODLA/GENOS/PL. Mortis Angelus when it lives aswell. Never been with or against PODLA/GENOS/PL as far as I know though. I like to make things, or help to shape things.
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Psychotic Maniac
Caldari Head Shrinkers
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Posted - 2010.06.22 14:52:00 -
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Bad choice, false advertising, was lied too about whatever, etc... Take your pick, the list goes on and on. --
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you." -John Wooden |
Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.06.22 15:17:00 -
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If you only knew how terrible our corp is, people leave it like as if we smelled like duck poop (wait, we do).
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.22 15:20:00 -
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People using amount of corporations in corp history as tool to check maturity lack maturity tbh.
I got a nice long list of corporations in employement history. Few just werent for me, one they lied, quite a few had habbit of closing/alliance closing, then add loads of npc corp history, some FW npc corp history, etc.
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Untraceableone
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Posted - 2010.06.22 15:51:00 -
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My main has a list of abiout 25-30 corps in my corps history. All but 4 or 5 of those are me jumping either to npc corps after leaving my current corp or me jumping from npc corp to npc militia corp so I could get stuff done in minmatar space. I wish there was some way to remove npc corps from your corp history.
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Commander Azrael
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.06.22 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Ayeipsia Edited by: Lady Ayeipsia on 22/06/2010 14:14:50
Originally by: Scout Ops I call them 'corp jumpers'
me dont like, lack of matureness
Wow, that coming from a fellow Red Fed member kind of surprises me. Look at our own corp... our purpose is to provide PvP. Yet, people are allowed to leave for any given reason, then return later. They can leave if they want to help friends, but not run the risk of involving Red Fed. I know I did this once. We had a Wormhole OP for my alliance. I wanted to use my combat character, but not drag Red Fed into any issues that may arrise. I left red, joined back to my old alliance, helped in the op, then rejoined, and two more change on my corp history.
Then what about those who make it their job to start new corps? I started North of the Border for my friends. I had the skills, and the standing to anchor a POS, they did not. Another corp jump, still legitamete and not a lack of matureness, just trying to help friends.
And what of those older players? They may have been in corps that eventually die out. Should they stay with no one else to play or accept a corp is gone and move on. I think this blatant stereotyping is rather poor and shows a lack of matureness far more than having a lot of corps in your employment histroy.
Yeah agreed.
4 years old and 13 corps - Don't care if bothers some people to be quite honest.
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Musical Fist
Gallente The Unknown Bar and Pub
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Posted - 2010.06.22 15:56:00 -
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First I look at their corps tbh, but in all fairness if a person has been in one corp ONLY and applies to our corp I will think by default he is a spy.
You can tell alot about a person based on corps he has joined / how long for though -- Emo TraderJohn's Number 1 Fan!! |
Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2010.06.22 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: Jovialmadness on 22/06/2010 16:49:20 1. Op does make a point even if he does fail all over the place with his fail posting.
2. Like them or hate them, are one or aren't one, Corp jumpers exist and are little *****es tbh. I'll burn them down first chance I get in a recruit convo.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.06.22 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Scout Ops I call them 'corp jumpers'
me dont like, lack of matureness
/sings/ "Op is...Trollolololo-lololo-lolling."
(The views expressed may not be those of Blacklight Inc.) |
Aeternus IV
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Posted - 2010.06.22 17:05:00 -
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Edited by: Aeternus IV on 22/06/2010 17:05:55 Ever stop to think maybe the corps that person left lack maturity? Tis why I left my first corp. But now Ima spai :D so my 3rd corp won't let me be in my second corp, which is also my 4th corp. My 5th corp is me and a friend from my 2nd and 4th corp, and Im about to join my 6th corp from either my 2nd and 4th corp OR I'll be joining another one from my 3rd alliance. Yet Up until now, I've been blue to the same people since I started.
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Yakumo Smith
Gallente No End To Infinity Fleetingly Finite
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Posted - 2010.06.22 17:06:00 -
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Depends on the circumstances, how frequently it happens and who the corps were.
A lot of hops in a short space of time could mean a fickle person unwilling to commit or simply a string of unlucky choices for a home.
It's easy to forget that some corps over promise (aka lie) about things in order to get players to join.
"Loads of people in EU time zone" suddenly turns out to be 7 players at peak time...or all the pvpers decide to go on holiday at the same time leaving just one guy willing to stand and fight with you..."they will all be back soon" Or the famous "we are going to do <insert cool thing you are interested in> once we get a few more members"
I suppose this must be my sig. I'll do something cool with it eventually. |
Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.06.22 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Scout Ops I call them 'corp jumpers'
me dont like, lack of matureness
Judging people on a single metric, irrespective of other considerations, is a good idea c/d?
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
000Hunter000
Gallente Industrial Exploits Massive Intergalactic Love Klub
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Posted - 2010.06.22 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Scout Ops I call them 'corp jumpers'
me dont like, lack of matureness
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Me don't like your lack of thinking with more then one braincell before posting
I've been playing for over 6 years now... sometimes ur just unlucky ________________________________________________
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Something Random
Gallente The Barrow Boys
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Posted - 2010.06.22 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Scout Ops I call them 'corp jumpers'
me dont like, lack of matureness
Theres a good many reasons some people flit around corps. Judgemental much ?
Lets think... moving corp to remain in alliance while your old corp leaves, change character across accounts, go into specific corp to be with friends, war dec someone who meated you an injustice without dragging the others in.... im not sure but this list definitely goes on. All perfectly innocent/thoughtful, and 6 corp jumps right off the top of my head aint bad.
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Temporal Mechanics
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Posted - 2010.06.22 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Grez Edited by: Grez on 22/06/2010 13:57:41 Takes people a while to find a corp they like. I've been in (I think) more than 10 corps, and I consider myself pretty mature. How about you find yourself a baseless accusation bandwagon, and go jump on it? Seems you'd be pretty familiar with that kind of lifestyle.
I think you're what we, the EVE community, call a moron.
No way !!!
He's a BIG Moron... (Eve Community Member)
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Jhagiti Tyran
Invicta.
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Posted - 2010.06.22 17:31:00 -
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As others have said the amount of corps by itself doesn't really tell the whole picture, sometimes people join a corp only to find out that it sucks or that the recruiters and ceo misrepresent the corp and you find out that its not quite what you thought it would be. Even when the corp is good players might not like the play style or they can be in the corp for a short time and something radical changes like a high percentage of inactivity or an alliance fail cascading or joining a new alliance and other times players get lucky and find a corp that suits both the player and the corp and everything's great and loyal players will try to stick with the corp through a rough spot but even then sometimes circumstances can change in such a way even the most die hard corp members want to leave.
Basically there are plenty of good reasons why players join a lot of corps through no fault of their own.
If someone has a huge catalogue of corps they have been in for a few days or weeks over and over again that can be a warning sign though.
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Marchocias
Silent Ninja's
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Posted - 2010.06.22 17:52:00 -
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Edited by: Marchocias on 22/06/2010 17:55:26 I understand what you're saying Scout Ops.
Like any real life employer I would look at the corp history of a player, and if they seemed to have changed corp too often I would question them about this. There are possibly decent reasons for people having changed around a lot, but the prospective employees answer to such questions should tell you a lot about the pilot and their attitude.
I would also get in contact with the CEOs of those corps, or other authoritative members, to provide references and see if their stories match.
Good reasons would always be specific to the pilot in question, but might include: Corp closed. First 3 months of game - wasn't sure what direction to take.
Bad reasons include: Fickleness (internet spaceships = serious business). Didn't like play style (should've done more research). Kicked out (here, I would definately contact old corp mates to hear both sides of story). Avoiding wardecs (just scum).
Also, I personally would group two or more periods in the same corp (or the same alliance) as one corp, so long as the switching between wasn't excessively regular. In fact, I might consider such a thing to be a positive factor - obviously the pilot was cool enough the first time round to be welcomed back after they left.
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Shawshanke
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Posted - 2010.06.22 18:15:00 -
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My main is less than a year old and has a long corp history due to setting up high sec pos corps for people.
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