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Steep Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.22 18:44:00 - [1] What follows is not a rant but rather more of a brain dump, please forgive the long read. I've recently gotten my drake to be able to effectively solo L4 missions and have spent the last few days grinding out isk for plexes and exotic dancers to put into cargo containers (it's not weird, don't judge me). However I ended up getting a cargo mission instead of the normal lucrative combat missions, this sucked but I'd already accepted the mission before reading it and since it only had me go 4 jumps I just decided to buy a Badger MK2 and run it while I played ball with my pup. I'm sure some of you can already see where this is going. Yup I brought up the market, sorted by price, saw the ship ran between 400 to 700 thousand isk, then sorted by jump distance. Oh what luck there are a lot of sell orders in system for 500 to 650 thousand isk! Ok pup, go get the ball! Go get it! I'll I have to do is click here. Good girl! Ok go get it again. Right click there. Buy now. Oh you're such a good puppy! Yes I'm sure I want to buy this. Ok, go fetc.... wait... did that 500 thousand or 500 million? Crap! Yes friends, I spent 500million isk to buy a badger mark 2. You know how this scam works. You buy up all the industrial ships in the area of a level 4 mission agent, then put a bunch of different sell orders up in the station of the L4 agent so when the sucker sorts by jump they only see you're sell orders and if they arn't paying attintion they won't notice the three extra zeros on all the sell orders and next thing you know, you're a half a billion isk richer. So let this be a warning to the new and a reminder to the old, don't be a victim of distracted market browsing. This message was brought to you by the foundation for Improving Pod Pilot Wallets. IPPW: Encouraging CCP to expand the pilot wallet interface to include sub accounts for the better management of personal isk since 2010.
Obyrith	Posted - 2010.06.22 18:47:00 - [2] Wow, I totally have to try that one. Thanks!
Via Eyes Gallente	Posted - 2010.06.22 18:53:00 - [3] I learnt my lesson after I bought an 8 mil Gallente Shuttle.
Legs Mackenzie	Posted - 2010.06.22 18:55:00 - [4] I learned my lesson after selling 3 x Cargo Expander II for a total of 2.1b
Via Eyes Gallente	Posted - 2010.06.22 18:59:00 - [5] Originally by: Legs Mackenzie I learned my lesson after selling 3 x Cargo Expander II for a total of 2.1b You win this time...
mechtech SRS Industries SRS.	Posted - 2010.06.22 19:00:00 - [6] You know that little thing that says "are you sure you want to pay 10,000% over average cost?". Yea, read that, and always double check any market transaction you are making. Also, you can set min/max prices in the market settings tab. But yea, if you aren't paying attention in eve, you'll get suicide ganked/scammed/ect, it's the nature of the game.
Marko Riva Adamant Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.22 19:00:00 - [7] The really cool part is that the one putting up that Badger for a ridiculous price isn't the one getting the isk. The sellorder with the lowest price sold that badger for you, at YOUR indicated (500 mil) price :P ----------- Want to learn combat/PVP? Alliance creation service
Steep Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.22 19:03:00 - [8] Originally by: Marko Riva The really cool part is that the one putting up that Badger for a ridiculous price isn't the one getting the isk. The sellorder with the lowest price sold that badger for you, at YOUR indicated (500 mil) price :P ... you did read the part where I said buy all the industrials in the area right?
Barakkus Spacelane Innovation	Posted - 2010.06.22 19:03:00 - [9] Why does this never work for me :( Originally by: CCP Dropbear rofl edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
Bodrul Caldari Polaris Rising The Spire Collective	Posted - 2010.06.22 19:07:00 - [10] were you just oblivous to the RED warning on the price, maybe they should make it bigger *YOU ARE AN IDIOT AND ABOUT TO PAY INSERT PERCENTAGE* OVER MARKET VALUE** ........ "Accept responsibility for your life. Know that it is you who will get you where you want to go, no one else." - Les Brown# ........
Marko Riva Adamant Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.22 19:09:00 - [11] Edited by: Marko Riva on 22/06/2010 19:09:34 Originally by: Steep Originally by: Marko Riva The really cool part is that the one putting up that Badger for a ridiculous price isn't the one getting the isk. The sellorder with the lowest price sold that badger for you, at YOUR indicated (500 mil) price :P ... you did read the part where I said buy all the industrials in the area right? Actually most of the times this is not the case and it's just a wannabe scammer who is as clueless as he hopes his customers will be. Or someone trying to transfer isk with a trial account while not knowing how things work. ----------- Want to learn combat/PVP? Alliance creation service
Ocih Amarr The Program Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2010.06.22 19:34:00 - [12] 4 accounts, 12 wallets, 3 corp wallets. I feel bad for you but how the hell does someone do this? Not only do I never have that much in one wallet, even if I did? I cant for the life of me see how people can make these errors. I dont get it.
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.06.22 20:25:00 - [13] lol
Jagga Spikes Minmatar Spikes Chop Shop	Posted - 2010.06.22 20:36:00 - [14] people make mistakes all the the time. some more often than others. nobody is perfect. it would be quite boring world otherwise. ________________________________ : Forum Bore 'Em : Foamy The Squirrel - [jedi handwave] "There is no spoon."
Pelsson Amarr SL0W DEATH	Posted - 2010.06.22 21:18:00 - [15] Spent 900m on damage control t2. Learned my lesson to pay attention to the warning sign that pops up when you are buying overpriced items after that
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.06.22 21:22:00 - [16] Never happened to me as I sort by price Item DB \| Sigs
Gavjack Bunk	Posted - 2010.06.22 21:26:00 - [17] On the market page, there is a settings tab in the 4th position. Maybe there is something there that will go a long long way to making sure you never get market scammed even when your ripped off your **** on wobbly eggs. -- On planets... nobody can see you macro mining...
Lashnar Caldari LEGEND OF THE SHADOW GUARD	Posted - 2010.06.22 21:29:00 - [18] Whenever I try that scam it never works for me! Argh! Welcome to EVE.
Xeross155 Minmatar Fusion Death Inc. Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2010.06.22 21:35:00 - [19] Simply put: You are the reason this scam still exists. Some tips 1. Check the price 2. Check the price 4. ??? 5. Profit Regards, Xeross --------------------------------------------- Xeross' ventures into EVE
Eelis Kiy Gallente Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2010.06.22 21:36:00 - [20] I did something like this once. Accidently paid a fair few mil for a small amount of rockets (of all things). The guy I brought them from then sent me a mail 2 mins later saying sorry for the price mistake and refunded me what was overpaid ----------------------------- >>where the frack is my ship?<<
Some Advisor	Posted - 2010.06.22 21:39:00 - [21] Originally by: Steep Yes friends, I spent 500million isk to buy a badger mark 2. You know how this scam works. You buy up all the industrial ships in the area of a level 4 mission agent, then put a bunch of different sell orders up in the station of the L4 agent so when the sucker sorts by jump they only see you're sell orders and if they arn't paying attintion they won't notice the three extra zeros on all the sell orders and next thing you know, you're a half a billion isk richer. 2 things saved me so far from this 1) i can most of the time read 2) if i cant, i at least have the (still enabled) popup saying somethign like "warning! this item is like 5928% over the market average, are you sure you want to buy/sell ?" should have kept that message on eh? :P --- Donations, thankyou / hatemails always welcome :P if you want to "ragequit" or take a longer break: "can i have your stuff" ? :P i also like BPOs of any kind with the promise you get it back :)
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.06.22 22:04:00 - [22] How is this a scam I don't get it.
Domonique Molvoy Exploitation Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.23 00:57:00 - [23] scammers? In my EVE? Domonique Molvoy Shiptoasting extraordinaire
Black Dranzer	Posted - 2010.06.23 01:34:00 - [24] Originally by: Dan O'Connor Never happened to me as I sort by price
Rakshasa Taisab Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.06.23 03:35:00 - [25] Originally by: Ocih 4 accounts, 12 wallets, 3 corp wallets. I feel bad for you but how the hell does someone do this? Not only do I never have that much in one wallet, even if I did? I cant for the life of me see how people can make these errors. I dont get it. I'd be distraught if my main wallet had less than 500M in it at any moment... Need to cover those buy orders. ^_^
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar	Posted - 2010.06.23 04:53:00 - [26] Edited by: Nooma K''Larr on 23/06/2010 04:53:57 It must be one of those new gold platted Amarr badgers. Anyhoo, sort by price is the way to go. As for scams... when I first started out in EVE I accepted a 150 mill collateral courier contract to deliver to a player owned outpost. So after surviving the trip thru nullsec, I found I couldn't dock. The item i was shipping: A small empty container. Nowhere in the game does it say that you may not be able to dock at a player owned outpost. That is a major exploit of public contracts. Lesson learned. -------------------------------------- If you don't like my posts, then why waste your time commenting in them? --------------------------------------
Mme Pinkerton United Engineering Services	Posted - 2010.06.23 06:03:00 - [27] Edited by: Mme Pinkerton on 23/06/2010 06:04:50 Originally by: Gladys Pank How is this a scam I don't get it. me neither. It's not like any form of deception is involved - you get the good you wanted to buy at exactly the price it is listed for (and you even get a nice warning by the client that you might overpay). Originally by: wiktionary scam (plural scams) 1. Fraudulent deal. That marketing scheme looks like a scam to me. Synonyms * con game * See also Wikisaurus:deception Please explain what is fraudulent about that deal? (or following wikipedia: at which point in the process did someone try to defraud you by gaining your confidence?)
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar	Posted - 2010.06.23 06:13:00 - [28] Originally by: Mme Pinkerton Edited by: Mme Pinkerton on 23/06/2010 06:04:50 Originally by: Gladys Pank How is this a scam I don't get it. me neither. It's not like any form of deception is involved - you get the good you wanted to buy at exactly the price it is listed for (and you even get a nice warning by the client that you might overpay). Originally by: wiktionary scam (plural scams) 1. Fraudulent deal. That marketing scheme looks like a scam to me. Synonyms * con game * See also Wikisaurus:deception Please explain what is fraudulent about that deal? (or following wikipedia: at which point in the process did someone try to defraud you by gaining your confidence?) Technically...nothing wrong with the transaction. Warnings were bypassed and the transaction completed. What it does do is prey on players lack of attention or distraction in the transaction: 5000000 50000000 500000000 5000000000 ...when looked at quickly can easily be confused for 500,000 or 50 million. It is a legal con in the game because the buyer is at fault. -------------------------------------- If you don't like my posts, then why waste your time commenting in them? --------------------------------------
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.06.23 06:22:00 - [29] So it's not a scam, like I implied. Thanks captain obvious for the primary school numbers lesson.
Devil tiger	Posted - 2010.06.23 06:35:00 - [30] Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Edited by: Nooma K''Larr on 23/06/2010 04:53:57 Nowhere in the game does it say that you may not be able to dock at a player owned outpost. That is a major exploit of public contracts. Lesson learned. Yeah it would be nice to know from before hand if you are allowed to dock or not in stations at 0.0, though its genarally no unless you're blue on the alliance owning the station. AFAIK that particular scam still works.
Dian'h Might Minmatar Cash and Cargo Liberators Incorporated	Posted - 2010.06.23 07:09:00 - [31] I learned about this "scam" after I bought 2 mackinaws for 87k each. Also: Originally by: Black Dranzer Originally by: Dan O'Connor Never happened to me as I sort by price - - - Dian'h Might - C&Ps resident "internet kleptomaniac"
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar	Posted - 2010.06.23 07:20:00 - [32] Originally by: Gladys Pank So it's not a scam, like I implied. Thanks captain obvious for the primary school numbers lesson. Dont mention it Spanky. I try to keep the intellectually slower members like yourself, in mind when explaining complex matters on the forums. Glad it helped you understand thing better. Oh, and I'm really proud of you. I didn't even draw any pictures and you still got the concept. What a good boy. Dont forget to bathe during down time today OK. xoxoxox -------------------------------------- If you don't like my posts, then why waste your time commenting in them? --------------------------------------
Allenna	Posted - 2010.06.23 08:40:00 - [33] I agree that you should always sort by price. Tricking someone into paying more they intended IS a scam. For those who disagree this isn't a scam. You followed the rules, and didn't break the EULA, but in the end you manipulated a market mechanic to create a buying enviroment where an impatient mission runner might buy at a ridiculously high price. Because you manipulated the market window so lower reasonably priced units were deliberately not visible, it's a scam.
Laechyd Eldgorn Caldari Cruoris Seraphim Exalted.	Posted - 2010.06.23 08:41:00 - [34] Damage Control for the win
Cheap Dude	Posted - 2010.06.23 08:57:00 - [35] ******************** SELLING SCAM INSURANCE ****************** Get your SCAM INSURANCE now, only 25M isk. When you get scammed you get the items and isk back!! Never get scammed again for 25M isk!! ****************** SELLING SCAM INSURANCE ********************
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.06.23 21:35:00 - [36] Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Originally by: Gladys Pank So it's not a scam, like I implied. Thanks captain obvious for the primary school numbers lesson. Dont mention it Spanky. I try to keep the intellectually slower members like yourself, in mind when explaining complex matters on the forums. Glad it helped you understand thing better. Oh, and I'm really proud of you. I didn't even draw any pictures and you still got the concept. What a good boy. Dont forget to bathe during down time today OK. xoxoxox Yeah thanks, I'm pretty bad at this game.
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar	Posted - 2010.06.23 22:47:00 - [37] Originally by: Gladys Pank Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Originally by: Gladys Pank So it's not a scam, like I implied. Thanks captain obvious for the primary school numbers lesson. Dont mention it Spanky. I try to keep the intellectually slower members like yourself, in mind when explaining complex matters on the forums. Glad it helped you understand thing better. Oh, and I'm really proud of you. I didn't even draw any pictures and you still got the concept. What a good boy. Dont forget to bathe during down time today OK. xoxoxox Yeah thanks, I'm pretty bad at this game. YAWN -------------------------------------- If you don't like my posts, then why waste your time commenting in them? --------------------------------------
Dian'h Might Minmatar Cash and Cargo Liberators Incorporated	Posted - 2010.06.23 23:01:00 - [38] Originally by: Allenna For those who disagree this isn't a scam. You followed the rules, and didn't break the EULA, but in the end you manipulated a market mechanic to create a buying enviroment where an impatient mission runner might buy at a ridiculously high price. Because you manipulated the market window so lower reasonably priced units were deliberately not visible, it's a scam. So tell me, at what price level does the status of a market order change from "overpriced" to "scam"? 10% deviation from average? 30%? 50%? What about 0.0 regions where it's hard to get to, do you factor in opportunity cost to those? How about the old market orders after a massive price fluctuation? Does the forgotten sell order that remains unchanged after a 200% drop in average market price count as a scam in your book? - - - Dian'h Might - C&Ps resident "internet kleptomaniac"
ihcn	Posted - 2010.06.23 23:11:00 - [39] This is why I reorder my columns so that if you sort by jumps, the "secondary sort" is by price.

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Arkanor Gallente Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2010.06.23 23:32:00 - [41] I saw this in Dodixie last week, I needed the simplest frigate I could get my hand on to do the "Recon" mission tree, almost every type was bought out and being sold for 100+ million. Originally by: Ghosthowl WoW = hardcore paladins smashin dat face. Originally by: HippoKing I just cried, you know that?
Jugger Takashi Perkone	Posted - 2010.06.24 14:36:00 - [42] The only thing left to do is to make a sound and signlanguage pop up, aswell as some kind of thing for the visual and hearing-impaired, that once again spells out "THIS ** COST 4000% OVER AVERAGE MARKET VALUE YOU DUMB **"..... Christ >.<

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