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jakejekel
Caldari Night Breed Pack
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Posted - 2010.06.26 03:22:00 -
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I'm looking for the statistics, dps and tank, for sleeper sites..... specifically c3 and c4 wh's, mostly c3's. what dps does each site produce? and what dps is needed to break there tank? i'm looking to solo in a tengu, and need the specific numbers.... the sites in a c3 are
Cosmic Anomaly
Fortification Frontier Stronghold Outpost Frontier Stronghold Solar Cell The Oruze Construct
radar
Unsecured Frontier Database Unsecured Frontier Receiver
mag
Forgotten Frontier Quarantine Outpost Forgotten Frontier Recursive Depot
base info on each can be found here
http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=WormholeSpaceClass3 Mass murder makes me happy! Dead bodies make me happy! Until eternity! I'll always have juggalo family! |
Archestratidas
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Posted - 2010.06.26 03:43:00 -
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I use a legion, but the numbers should be similar. With a t3's sig radius, you need a minimum of 650ish dps omnitank to do any site in a class 3. That's minimum and might be a cause for concern at times. Run with a 700-750 dps tank and you'll rarely fall below 90% armor. Offensively, you should aim for not less than 450 dps. It's probably doable with less, but it will be frustratingly slow. 500-550 dps makes it much less agonizing in terms of 'wait time'. Either way, class 3s are easily soloable in either a legion or a tengu.
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Ulwithy Arillious
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Posted - 2010.06.26 04:10:00 -
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c3 legion fitting - it'll do the anomalies pretty well
3 faction heat sinks 2 faction eanms 2 a-type reppers
faction ab faction web cap rechargers
probe launcher moar lasers
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jakejekel
Caldari Night Breed Pack
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Posted - 2010.06.26 19:33:00 -
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ok, so anyone got a tengu fit with those stats? i can get my tank past 850 pretty easily, but my dps seems not to be getting any better then 300........ Mass murder makes me happy! Dead bodies make me happy! Until eternity! I'll always have juggalo family! |
Induc
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.06.26 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Archestratidas I use a legion, but the numbers should be similar. With a t3's sig radius, you need a minimum of 650ish dps omnitank to do any site in a class 3. That's minimum and might be a cause for concern at times. Run with a 700-750 dps tank and you'll rarely fall below 90% armor. Offensively, you should aim for not less than 450 dps. It's probably doable with less, but it will be frustratingly slow. 500-550 dps makes it much less agonizing in terms of 'wait time'. Either way, class 3s are easily soloable in either a legion or a tengu.
Show me a legion fit that has 450 dps, 650 omni tank and a probe launcher
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Archestratidas
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Posted - 2010.06.26 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Induc Show me a legion fit that has 450 dps, 650 omni tank and a probe launcher
Never said I had a probe launcher (?) probably because I don't put a probe launcher on it.
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Archestratidas
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Posted - 2010.06.26 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: jakejekel ok, so anyone got a tengu fit with those stats? i can get my tank past 850 pretty easily, but my dps seems not to be getting any better then 300........
Don't fret about uber tanks. Anything above 750 or so is pretty much wasted.
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Schrecklichkeit
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Posted - 2010.06.26 21:35:00 -
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eh, check out RiotRick's wh legion fit on battleclinic Induc. its the 'standard' legion wh fit.
it's something like 750 dps omnitank, 470 dps w/ a probe launcher. guess it sucks to at other people when you can't even eft warrior .
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jakejekel
Caldari Night Breed Pack
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Posted - 2010.06.26 21:42:00 -
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and again, a legion doesn't help me, i can't fly one..... i need a tengu fit, and i not worried about a probe launcher as i live in deep wh space..... and know how to move about in it. if someone pops the wh behind me and i don't notice, i'm pretty much gonna lose the tengu due to my stupidity anyway...... Mass murder makes me happy! Dead bodies make me happy! Until eternity! I'll always have juggalo family! |
Kasidis
Gallente Raiders Covenant
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Posted - 2010.06.27 00:54:00 -
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6x Heavy Missle launcher II
2x Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier 2x Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field 1x Pithum A-type Medium Shield Booster 1x Target Painter II
4x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
This all has ~900 tank and ~700 dps but is really expensive I'm assuming you can afford it though, if not just swap the mods for lower ones. Solo any c3 and some c4. Really good fit hope you can use it.
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jakejekel
Caldari Night Breed Pack
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Posted - 2010.06.27 05:50:00 -
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thank you, this i can use, i'll eft it, see where it leads Mass murder makes me happy! Dead bodies make me happy! Until eternity! I'll always have juggalo family! |
Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.27 06:16:00 -
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Thse are what we are using for C3 + C4:
[Tengu, HML] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy Photon Scattering Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
[Tengu, HAM] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy Photon Scattering Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
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Errtan
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Posted - 2010.06.28 02:05:00 -
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It's hard to find exact number amounts, but the statement of 650-700 DPS tank is highballing a bit. for the mag sites, yes you're going to want lots, but even just with a 505 omni tank and webbed by 6 ships I never get worried. Obviously more is better and takes some strain away but starter stats for regualr anomolies would be around 550 tank and atleast 350 DPS to be safe.
currently I bounce between 360 and 430 DPS with scorch and multi-freq and a site usually takes me around 20-25 minutes, depends on how heavily I'm webbed and how longit takes to get into multi-freq range. I sit on a 540 omni tank at the moment and I've never had to worry about breaking in a regular site, haven't run a C3 mag yet though.
A tengu might need higher raw numbers for tank seeing as the sig radius is bigger with shield mods and therefor will take a lot more damage from the BS missiles (they hit my shield myrm for 1100, my legion or 30. lol)
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Stovo kor
Firebird Squadron
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Posted - 2010.06.28 17:18:00 -
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Something like this.
Fortification Frontier Stronghold ( ~ 550 tank ) . . . . . . . . Mag site ( ~ 950 tank )
C3 are very manageable for Tengu's except for the Mags in which case the toughest waves could turn into a bad situation. You probably want some faction mods on for the Mag sites to test it out the first time Tengu is generally the best ship for C3 so if fit right you should not have issues esp with speed + small sig
For the Fortification Frontier combat sites even solo Drake DPS with T2 launchers could break the sleeper tank so some people Just breeze through many of those in T3 rather then worry bout profession sites
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Domin Ique
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Posted - 2010.06.28 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Tau Cabalander Thse are what we are using for C3 + C4:
[Tengu, HML] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy Photon Scattering Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
[Tengu, HAM] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy Photon Scattering Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
You will get a much better tank going with 2x Caldari Invul Fields instead of 1 Invuln and 1 Photon Scattering
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Fist1
Brothers At Arms SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.29 02:58:00 -
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Edited by: Fist1 on 29/06/2010 03:04:29
Originally by: Domin Ique
Originally by: Tau Cabalander Thse are what we are using for C3 + C4:
[Tengu, HML] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy Photon Scattering Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
[Tengu, HAM] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy Photon Scattering Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
You will get a much better tank going with 2x Caldari Invul Fields instead of 1 Invuln and 1 Photon Scattering
NO!!!! Sleepers hit you for your lowest resist. You are loosing well over 100 dps tank by dropping the photon field for an invl field because you are leaving the EM hole that caldari ships have.
This is what I use to solo C3's. will probably drop the TP and 1 T1 CCC for another CN invl field and a T2 CCC for C4's whenever i get the balls to try one. Or maybe just a set of Crystal implants.
Lowest resist tank is on Explosive at 695 w/ all lvl 5. 641 DPS with Navy Scourage. About 3 minuets per BS (a full 40 launcher load usually)
[Tengu, Tengu wormhole runner] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Photon Scattering Field Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Target Painter II Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
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DmD666
House Mjollnir
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Posted - 2010.06.29 04:25:00 -
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Sleepers don't hit your lowest resist, they do all damage types. Lasers do two types, missiles the other two.
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jakejekel
Caldari Night Breed Pack
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Posted - 2010.06.29 05:00:00 -
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i did all the figuring for that tengu, and sadly, i do not have 2.6 bil for a tengu that could be lost at pretty much any time..... would it be possible to do the same thing for less then a bil? . Mass murder makes me happy! Dead bodies make me happy! Until eternity! I'll always have juggalo family! |
Lusty Wench
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Posted - 2010.06.30 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: jakejekel i did all the figuring for that tengu, and sadly, i do not have 2.6 bil for a tengu that could be lost at pretty much any time..... would it be possible to do the same thing for less then a bil? .
For everything you use that is "cheap" you're going to be dropping DPS and Tank ability. www.evehq.net www.ellatha.com/eve/T3.asp
Not saying I like it, or that it's good..just saying it's cheap.
Cap stable, until you get NOS'd Free Mid Slot under 500M isk reports EVEHQ *actual results may vary* 760 Tank 520 DPS with Heavy Spec 4
[Tengu, Cheapo] Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
5x Heavy Missile Launcher II (Scourge Fury Heavy Missile)
Large Shield Booster II Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Photon Scattering Field II 2x Invulnerability Field II
3x Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II Co-Processor II
3x Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
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jakejekel
Caldari Night Breed Pack
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Posted - 2010.07.06 22:20:00 -
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thank you, i don't mind faction fitting over time, just don't wanna do it all at once. this gives me a starting point, and allows me to faction it as i can afford it! thank you! Mass murder makes me happy! Dead bodies make me happy! Until eternity! I'll always have juggalo family! |
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Ulwithy Arillious
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.07 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: jakejekel thank you, i don't mind faction fitting over time, just don't wanna do it all at once. this gives me a starting point, and allows me to faction it as i can afford it! thank you!
If you're that worried about the cost of fitting it properly, you probably can't afford to lose it. Getting killed is a very real possibility when you take your ships into wormhole systems. |
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