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Gibbo3771
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Posted - 2010.06.29 16:07:00 -
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not only is it more useless than a badger....it would die to one if the situation arises.
garbage
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Leo'nick
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Posted - 2010.06.29 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Gibbo3771 not only is it more useless than a badger....it would die to one if the situation arises.
garbage
it's more worthless than your choice of cargo frigate...
somehow i expected it to at least be able to carry what a command center can launch but non completely useless even if you use the low slots to expand the cargo...
kinda wondering why they even bothered, or why they wasted such a cool ship model to make such a crappy ship :P
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Traelox
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Posted - 2010.06.29 16:17:00 -
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you guys all suck - for players in US TZ we're several hours away from getting off work and checking out the ship - NO ONE IS POSTING STATS. put something up for us all to look at and paise/complain about together.
/workingnotplayingeverant
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Gibbo3771
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Posted - 2010.06.29 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Traelox you guys all suck - for players in US TZ we're several hours away from getting off work and checking out the ship - NO ONE IS POSTING STATS. put something up for us all to look at and paise/complain about together.
/workingnotplayingeverant
ok, it looks nice and here is the stats:
Move country cause i dont give a ****
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Madner Kami
Gallente Durendal Ascending Gentlemen's Interstellar Nightclub
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Posted - 2010.06.29 16:30:00 -
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Edited by: Madner Kami on 29/06/2010 16:34:03
Originally by: Traelox you guys all suck - for players in US TZ we're several hours away from getting off work and checking out the ship - NO ONE IS POSTING STATS. put something up for us all to look at and paise/complain about together.
/workingnotplayingeverant
You know you could just check out the other thread about the Primae and read the very first post...
Originally by: Matterick Boon Edited by: Matterick Boon on 25/06/2010 15:51:15 http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff48/thetedrock/eve/f9fbc157.jpg http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff48/thetedrock/eve/dc1d1a16.jpg http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff48/thetedrock/eve/41d3b99f.jpg i donno if these stats are final. discuss.
Image changed to URL. Zymurgist
It also got a PI-related goods-bay of 1000m¦ and a command center-bay of 1600m¦. Basically a (really large) "shuttle" to establish a colony somewhere (should align a lot faster then any industrial).
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Leo'nick
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Posted - 2010.06.29 16:40:00 -
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And where are those special bays located? do you only see them when you assemble the ship or what? i didnt bother with that when i saw how bad it was :P not that the bays help it...
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Thea Arsoniztik
Red Tides Viewer Discretion Advised
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Posted - 2010.06.29 16:56:00 -
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At least give it a mid and a high slot to put a salvager/mwd on it so it could do something useful.
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Evil Stare
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Posted - 2010.06.29 17:07:00 -
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I was expecting a capital ship that coudl be flown in highsec. Something with fighters and or dreadnaut type fire power for free. I'm disapointed at the free ship i will be receiving because it is not what I wanted, a free, cool looking, death mobile I coudl fly in highsec and pwn everyone with. I did not receive this. I'm out of things to complain about. Punch out Maverick.
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Karwee
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Posted - 2010.06.29 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Leo'nick And where are those special bays located? do you only see them when you assemble the ship or what?...
When you Right Click your ship you have the option to open the "PI Cargo Hold" and the "Command Centre Hold"
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Vasundhara
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Posted - 2010.06.29 17:24:00 -
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To be clear, my gripe isn't that I'm getting a useless free ship, but that a ship with such a cool model should be such a laughing stock for it's intended role. Hell, take all of the cargo away from it apart from the special cargo to hold a single elite command center. Give it a single highslot with a special edition cov-ops cloak (that can't be used on other ships) and the ability to scan planets 2 points above whatever your planetology skill is. Now what you have is nice free gimick ship that actually does something unique (yet you could easily do without) and does not try to compete with the role of industrial or transport ships. Wasn't last years ship that scanner ship that sleepers wouldn't target? It's clearly not a staple for wormhole exploration but it does something fun and unique that earns it some respect.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.06.29 17:27:00 -
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win fit right here - Linkage - now lock something small
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Marcus Henik
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Posted - 2010.06.29 17:39:00 -
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IDK, I was disgusted untill I learned about the bays, now I am thinking ho hum. 4 warp stabs might make it ok for grab and go operations in w-space IMO the ships needs a cov opps cloak, or at least a high slot with enough grid and cpu to fit a cloaking device. the modle looks sweet, but anything it can do, I can do better with a badger. I reserve full judgment untill after I have had a chance to fit it.
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Ornee
Gallente Southern Cross Knights Order Of The Unforgiving
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Posted - 2010.06.29 17:57:00 -
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the Commodoties hold needs to be 10,000m3 not 1000m3, 1000m3 doesn't even carry 1 load from 1 planet after 5 hours of mining, I need to collect from 3 planets, jump to another ship, alt jumps in and delivers the raw materials to 4 planets with the factories, this sort of thing needs to be done in 1 round,not a trip to every planet, great looking ship for what? it just doesn't cut it for it's intended purpose, give it 10,000 m3 it still can't compete with Indy's for moving stuff around and it would be useful for it's intended role then. But as it is, it's a tempting prospect to dump it at a planet and blow it up, the explosion might nullify the empty feeling I have inside caused by unfulfilled anticipation. It might be the only one I ever get to blow up because I cant see anyone using them at all. ??? Hmm a ship made to carry stuff, but it doesn't carry enough to make it useful for carrying stuff. If I used the Primae to do my planetary ops I'd never have enough time to fly any other ship cause I'd be in the friggin thing all day, back and forth to every planet and sometimes twice. Ohh and BTW it doesn't let you put in various things like water, oxygen and probly other stuff as well.....whinge whinge whinge, whine whine whine, most dissappointing Some Ornee Music |
Karwee
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Posted - 2010.06.29 19:33:00 -
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I think this is a really cool ship for those people who recently joined EVE for the Planetary Interaction expansion. However, for pilots serious about PI and those who are investing a lot of SP into PI skills then this probably isn't the best ship to do it in.
For a new player joining the game, this is an awesome free gift. PI just recently came out and a bunch of new players experienced a huge unexpected downtime. If CCP just created this ship on such short notice, from scratch, I'd say thats good timing; Cool ship either way Way cooler than a shuttle ! :)
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Kinroi Alari
Gallente Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.06.29 20:17:00 -
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150m sig radius seems largish, albeit the Primae is twice as large packaged than a cruiser is. I'm not at home; what's the sensor strength with four Magnetometric Backup Array IIs (96tf, vs. 100tf CPU)? -- Nam Sibyllam quidem Cumis ego ipse oculis meis vidi in ampulla pendere... |
Wayay Bonnylad
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Posted - 2010.06.29 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Gibbo3771 not only is it more useless than a badger....it would die to one if the situation arises.
garbage
Who gives a s**t if you think it is garbage? Nobody asked for a PI related ship, but we got one anyway. You didn't pay for it, you didn't have one this morning and now you have. If you don't like it, don't use it. Stop whining like a baby.
For brand new noobs I am sure it is quite useful as they haven't had time to train up for a suitable industrial ship or the ISK to buy one with. If anyone is mad keen on doing PI, or any other industrial stuff, they will move on from it and buy a proper hauler to do it with, same as everyone else did with their PVP choice of ship - it didn't take me long to move on from Slasher > Rifter > Rupture > Hurricane > T2 > T3/Battleships.
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Madner Kami
Gallente Durendal Ascending Gentlemen's Interstellar Nightclub
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Posted - 2010.06.30 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Wayay Bonnylad Who gives a s**t if you think it is garbage? Nobody asked for a PI related ship, but we got one anyway. You didn't pay for it, you didn't have one this morning and now you have. If you don't like it, don't use it. Stop whining like a baby.
For brand new noobs I am sure it is quite useful as they haven't had time to train up for a suitable industrial ship or the ISK to buy one with. If anyone is mad keen on doing PI, or any other industrial stuff, they will move on from it and buy a proper hauler to do it with, same as everyone else did with their PVP choice of ship - it didn't take me long to move on from Slasher > Rifter > Rupture > Hurricane > T2 > T3/Battleships.
Seriously. Have you ever made a new toon these days? You get a free racial tier 1 industrial and the racial industrial skill delivered with it. It takes like 30 minutes to actually train for something that is vastly more usefull then the Primae will ever be. Exactly that is the sad thing. All of us are happy and gratefull for the gift, of course, but we would be much more happy if there actually were a point in using the ship. Right now it's not a whole lot more then an battleship-sized shuttle with the cargo-bay like an Exequror (unrigged) to freight a new colony plus some base mats somewhere. It's really not hard to actually make it usefull and still beeing less usefull then a real industrial (aka 5000m¦ or even 10000m¦ PI-goods-bay), but that wasn't done, which is sad, because the ship itself looks nice and the basic idea is neat.
Yet I am still looking forward on if the idea of the Primae will ever be expanded. I'd like to, be it in a "Tier 2" version or even Tech 2 version. The ship is nice to look at and the basic idea is nice, although the usual industrials already kinda fill the role, but that's why the specialzed bays were introduced, right? To make ships excell at something particular while not entirely outphasing the old ones...
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.06.30 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba win fit right here - Linkage - now lock something small
I can see that I'm going to have to try assigning fighters to a Primae...
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Daool
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Posted - 2010.06.30 00:38:00 -
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This thing is obvioulsy meant for the noob who wants to do PI but can't fly anything bigger than a Destroyer and suddenly realises they can't fit a decent Command Centre in the hold.
Presto....."go forth and PI young pod jockey with gay abandon.....".
As for the skin, they are getting better at them so naturally the newest ship will have the best look, get over it.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.06.30 01:04:00 -
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What makes me a bit sad is that this really looks awesome, and along with the new Scorpion model, it shows what CCP is capable of. I just wish they'd give the same amount of attention to the other ships in game.
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Devick Baalreth
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Posted - 2010.06.30 01:17:00 -
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The ship needs to have skill related to the actual use. It may not have ship skills like a normal ship would... However. I propose the following changes to make it PI specific and nothing more
Command Center Upgrade Skill: 100% bonus to Command Center Hold per level
Interplanetary Consolidation Skill: 100% bonus to Command Center Hold per level
Planetology Skill: 900m3 Commodity Hold per level
Advanced Planetology Skill: 900m3 Commodity Hold per level
This would make it fit the maximum number of command centers you can hold and the maximum size of command center per skill.
This will end up with 10,000m3 commodity hold that will match your planetary structures are max skills.
Would make it PI only and make it worth while to fly and skill up. ____________________________________ Must give Credit to this signature's creator, its awesome.
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SickSeven
Nova Aquilae
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Posted - 2010.06.30 01:46:00 -
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I'm not going to complain about a new, free ship. However, it's attributes don't live up to the cool ship model. I am said that I have no use or need for the ship because it really is cool looking. You died at the fittings screen, you just hand't realized it yet - Mr. Cue |
Khoard
Minmatar Amarritus Patriotus
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Posted - 2010.06.30 04:52:00 -
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Edited by: Khoard on 30/06/2010 04:53:11
Originally by: Devick Baalreth The ship needs to have skill related to the actual use. It may not have ship skills like a normal ship would... However. I propose the following changes to make it PI specific and nothing more
Command Center Upgrade Skill: 100% bonus to Command Center Hold per level
Interplanetary Consolidation Skill: 100% bonus to Command Center Hold per level
Planetology Skill: 900m3 Commodity Hold per level
Advanced Planetology Skill: 900m3 Commodity Hold per level
This would make it fit the maximum number of command centers you can hold and the maximum size of command center per skill.
This will end up with 10,000m3 commodity hold that will match your planetary structures are max skills.
Would make it PI only and make it worth while to fly and skill up.
Now this is a awesome idea for such a cool ship! /signed
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Viscount Hood
Gallivanting Travel Company
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Posted - 2010.06.30 10:29:00 -
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All the free ships CCP have given us have been glorified shuttles, so why expect anything more?
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2010.06.30 10:41:00 -
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i think ccp is trying to avoid giving future hoarders loads of isk by creating a one off ship thats actually usful enough thta people would pay for them
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.06.30 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: Viscount Hood All the free ships CCP have given us have been glorified shuttles, so why expect anything more?
Because it was presented as a PI dedicated ship and it fails as such. The shuttles were designed as shuttles and are working as shuttles.
The primae is like a cake without any sweet stuff, it fails at what it is designed to be. -------- All I want is a better mankind.
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Headerman
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Posted - 2010.06.30 11:07:00 -
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I think it should have some tachyons fitted to it, just so it can look like an earth alliance Omega destroyer: http://www.ultradrive.com/images/b5_omega.jpg
:)
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Resea'Chura
Caldari White Light Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.30 11:39:00 -
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If you dont like the ship
Plz contract it to me
Thx
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Simeon Tor
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Posted - 2010.06.30 11:47:00 -
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Can someone help? I need a decent fit for my Primae, all these slots are making my head spin!
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empire hauler
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Posted - 2010.06.30 11:52:00 -
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primae is free
rookie ships are free
shuttles cost isk
for PI: primea>rookie ship>shuttle
so its better then a free ship and even better then a ship that u need to pay.
if badger is better, buy it, dont whine...
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