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Durin Sarga
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Posted - 2010.07.01 00:16:00 -
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Hey MD crowd,
I have a question regarding how to pay corp miners for their efforts. I know mining isn't the most glorious profession, but there are some people who make it home. We have a few dedicated miners in our corp and usually they reprocess on their own and sell the minerals or try to do their own manufacturing, etc.
What I'm wondering is... what would be a good way to convince them to sell the ore to the corp on a regular basis instead? The corp has a fully-trained refining toon, and a fully-trained industrial toon (or, at least more trained than our miners).
Does anyone have a good corporate structure that works for compensating miners and persuading them away from 'going it alone'?
If not, guess i'll just have to figure one out. I just usually figure 'if I can think of it, someone else has probably done it already'
Thanks in advance.
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Deuce Mustachio
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Posted - 2010.07.01 00:26:00 -
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Edited by: Deuce Mustachio on 01/07/2010 00:27:30 My corp is somewhat small and we use to do our mining ops like so.
Corp - 10% Hauler - 1/(# of miners)
Left Over Percentage - X
Every member would get their cut of X based on their theoretical maximum yield and what percentage it was of the total. EX:
Miner 1 - 100 m3/min Miner 2 - 200 m3/min Miner 3 - 300 m3/min
Miner 1 would receive a 1/6% cut of X Miner 2 would receive a 1/3% cut of X Miner 3 would receive a 1/2% cut of X
Now we have to mining ops on two different days. The first day all the ore goes to the corp and the second day it is split amongst the miners only. This is to help fund our recent orca loss and future freighter (yes we are a small corp with a lot of relative new people including myself).
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Xirin
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Posted - 2010.07.01 00:53:00 -
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You could try setting up corporation-only buy contracts at 5 or 10% below market value, say for a million units of whatever ore at a time. Or just do the same with buy orders at your station of choice. You might have other people in the system selling to you too, but meh they're getting ripped off so more money in the corp's pocket anyway.
Regardless, you have to remember that miners, by economic necessity, are opportunistic: They'll sell their ore wherever they can make the most money. You have to strike a balance between that and their desire to help out the corporation.
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Khun SP
Paramite Factories
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Posted - 2010.07.01 00:55:00 -
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First you need to establish a nice place for mining (good ores and belts, station, etc.)
Then just buy their ore at higher isk than market trends. You can pay +5%, and after perfect refining corp should be making a profit still. And even if its a small loss, its compensated by the sense of organization.
Additionally you may find useful my personal Excel chart for mining ops:
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2010.07.01 03:43:00 -
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No person in a mining operation is more important than the next. Hauler is important, security guys are important, miners are important. Thus everyone who shows up gets equal share.
Yeah some miners might pull in less than others. Usually due to training. This corrects itself readily enough to not be worth *****ing about.
The corp buys it all at "close" to market rate. We all understand that market rate tends to be fluid and they all know that I can't be bothered to try to rip them off. Too much trouble to do so, too much trouble finding them in the first place, too much damn trouble replacing them.
As to the corporate profit, from industrial activities to mineral market hedging: Profit does just fine without having to screw my mates. (Again, half the energy people invest to screw their mates brings more profit when expended honestly.)
Wealth, howsoever got, in Eve makes Lords of morons and gentlemen of thieves; Aptitude and intellect are needless here; 'Tis impudence and money that grants fame. |
cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.07.01 05:21:00 -
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Simple way I did it a long time ago:
Every person involved in mining OP (unless AFK, just adding command ship bonuses, etc..) gets a share equivalent to the amount of time they put in. Includes anti-pirate/player, hauler, miner.
i.e
Person A does 4 hrs Person B does 3.5 hrs Person C does 1.5 hrs Person D does 1 hr
Payout would be:
A = 40% B = 35% C = 15% D = 10%
Just make a note of when people start and finish. Very easy and fair.
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Cista2
Hydra Investment Fund
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Posted - 2010.07.01 05:29:00 -
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You are getting answers about mining ops, but what I see is a question about buying from miners operating individually.
For that you need to offer the exact right amount of isk, which will be a percentage of the market value. Talk to each miner first, then try to decide on a suitable percentage, which could for instance be 80 % of the buy price in local hubs.
If you are lucky and have offices in the right places, the miners will see an advantage in not having to haul their project as far. And you should be able to adjust the price you give them over time, if you feel you need more or less ore. ----------------------- Join "Signatures" channel - the chatroom for traders |
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