EVE Search - Jove disease caused by sleepers?

Check My IP Information

All Channels

EVE General Discussion

Jove disease caused by sleepers?

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 :: one page

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 2 post(s)
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey THAT Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.06 16:17:00 - [1] Edited by: Eventy One on 06/07/2010 16:19:58 In this post, CCP Dropbear all but says players have not yet unraveled the full story of wh space. At first I thought perhaps he was merely being cryptic - but then I looked at the evidence. Pottsey noticed that there were alternate sources of in-game information about the sleepers in wormhole space, new in-game mechanics for learning about the backstory. There apparently was purpose behind what was revealed (such as the meaning of sleeper words). In this thread, Terrus Valkin noticed an atypical cosmic anomaly called a quarantine zone that produced unusual notices in local (recall that even players are not visible in local in wh space). In the image of the quarantine zone that Terrus Valkin posted you can clearly see a gas cloud emanating from the sleeper structure. From the novel Empyrean age, we know the Jove were interested in the Jove Gate. We also know from Pottsey's work in wh space the sleepers were to. Recently Sansha's nation was found to have captured a Jove ship in the gateway entrance to the Eve gate system (New Eden). All of this makes me wonder if the Jove weren't first at war with the sleepers, or the sleepers responsible for the Jovian disease in the first place. (This is, of course, pure speculation without further input from players - but it is interesting speculation!) Is anybody else working on this?
Plumpy McPudding Brutor tribe	Posted - 2010.07.06 16:18:00 - [2] Places finger under your nose Does this smell like butt to you?
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey THAT Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.06 16:27:00 - [3] Originally by: Plumpy McPudding Places finger under your nose Does this smell like butt to you? And other bodily odours, I'd rather not say, or else your pvp buddies might start thinking differently of you. Please troll elsewhere.
Telvani	Posted - 2010.07.06 16:30:00 - [4] came expecting troll thread, may or may not have been disappointed as I didnt actually read it. Good idea , gove are really powerful, so are sleepers (sort of)
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2010.07.06 16:31:00 - [5] More like the Talocans, or whoever invented the sleepers. The sleepers are just protector drones; something else is afoot. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2010.07.06 16:37:00 - [6] My hypothesis was that the Jove just engineered themselves to the point where all primal motivators ceased to function. This will lead to terminal depression should a lack of other purpose and motivation appear. By the time this was discovered, going back to older genetic makeups was no longer possible or the data was destroyed in some incident or another. Now the Jove are trying to figure out which parts of the genetic makeup of the lesser races is actually representing those motivators, so they can put them back into their own makeup again. For this they gave the empires capsuleer technology which will allow the Jove to monitor and compare a large amount of very ambitious individuals, including complete brain scans and the subjects full DNA. Once they managed to cure themselves, they may or may not wipe the lab clean and do something else with the newly acquired free space. Or they are trying to use the Rogue Drones to achieve complete transhuman ascension by uploading their brains into anorganic lifeforms using lost sleeper technology, who were, among other things, masters of virtualization. Would explain why they intervened in such a decisive manner in the events leading to the Seyllin incident and the opening of the wormholes. Considering some Sansha homeworld got blasted during that event, it's not surprising that the Sansha are up to something around that matter. Either seeking vengeance or they happen to have found out something of significance during or after the event that they are now using to gain power over the empires, which by itself is a act of vengeance, considering who destroyed Sansha's Nation back in the days. -------- All I want is a better mankind.
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey THAT Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.06 16:39:00 - [7] Originally by: Abrazzar My hypothesis was that the Jove ... What's your take on CCP Dropbear's suggestion that player's haven't fully discovered all there is to discover about wh space? Is there still story to be discovered? (that is in fact discoverable)
Ravenclaw2kk	Posted - 2010.07.06 16:45:00 - [8] Originally by: Eventy One Originally by: Abrazzar My hypothesis was that the Jove ... What's your take on CCP Dropbear's suggestion that player's haven't fully discovered all there is to discover about wh space? Is there still story to be discovered? (that is in fact discoverable) I believe there is in fact a story to be discovered, but sadly said story will turn out to be undiscoverable and open up a bundle of new questions, some of which we may never know the answer to.
Stu Pendisdick Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2010.07.06 16:47:00 - [9] Warning! SPOILER ALERT! What isn't common knowledge is that there is a wormhole entrance to Jove space. It is in a C6 wormhole currently held by one of the large alliances in the game. So far, it is the only known route, and said alliance is keeping it under tight wraps for very obvious reasons. Nothing is available in the Jove hole.............yet.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2010.07.06 16:49:00 - [10] Originally by: Eventy One Originally by: Abrazzar My hypothesis was that the Jove ... What's your take on CCP Dropbear's suggestion that player's haven't fully discovered all there is to discover about wh space? Is there still story to be discovered? (that is in fact discoverable) I think it's not only a matter of finding all puzzle pieces, which we may or may not have found, but also in putting them together the right way. Considering that we don't know how the picture is supposed to look like, the latter may be the more challenging effort in this whole story. -------- All I want is a better mankind.

Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey THAT Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.06 16:50:00 - [11] Originally by: Stu Pendis**** Warning! SPOILER ALERT! What isn't common knowledge is that there is a wormhole entrance to Jove space. It is in a C6 wormhole currently held by one of the large alliances in the game. So far, it is the only known route, and said alliance is keeping it under tight wraps for very obvious reasons. Nothing is available in the Jove hole.............yet. I was called in to explore that WH due to perfect astrometrics skills, and my well known association with Magellan Exploration and Survey (Eve's only corp dedicated to finding Jove space). It turns out said WH is actually the image backdrop, of a blackhole system. There are many blackhole systems in C6 wh space. That is why it current goes no-where.
Squat Hardpeck State Protectorate	Posted - 2010.07.06 17:02:00 - [12] I crafted a ship capable of going through this wormhole and into Jove space. I lost it for many a year until one day, out in the deep depths of space, it miraculously reappeared. I traveled for months reaching the now derelict ship, but what I discovered was horrifying. All the crew was murdered in such a grotesque fashion it makes my stomach churn just pondering it. Upon checking the ship's logs to ascertain exactly what occurred on this ship, it turned out the portal this ship jumped through went to an alternate dimension. A place of torture, death, and hell. The ship then took on a life of its own, as if it were alive. Doors would open and close by themselves and lights would turn on and off. A figure would stare at me out of the corner of my eye, but whenever I turned to look, it was gone. The ship was gunning for me. It wanted to bring me into its fold. I had to get out, or I was going to die. I overloaded the ship's core and planted charges throughout its hull. I barely escaped with my life. This memory, this horrible memory that will stay with me forever is a testament to what the urge of discovery and exploration will take you. No one goes to Jove. Nobody ever makes it out alive.
Ascendic Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.07.06 17:05:00 - [13] Originally by: Squat Hardpeck I crafted a ship capable of going through this wormhole and into Jove space. I lost it for many a year until one day, out in the deep depths of space, it miraculously reappeared. I traveled for months reaching the now derelict ship, but what I discovered was horrifying. All the crew was murdered in such a grotesque fashion it makes my stomach churn just pondering it. Upon checking the ship's logs to ascertain exactly what occurred on this ship, it turned out the portal this ship jumped through went to an alternate dimension. A place of torture, death, and hell. The ship then took on a life of its own, as if it were alive. Doors would open and close by themselves and lights would turn on and off. A figure would stare at me out of the corner of my eye, but whenever I turned to look, it was gone. The ship was gunning for me. It wanted to bring me into its fold. I had to get out, or I was going to die. I overloaded the ship's core and planted charges throughout its hull. I barely escaped with my life. This memory, this horrible memory that will stay with me forever is a testament to what the urge of discovery and exploration will take you. No one goes to Jove. Nobody ever makes it out alive. Your ship did not happen to be called "Event Horizon" by chance did it?
Ravenclaw2kk	Posted - 2010.07.06 17:08:00 - [14] Edited by: Ravenclaw2kk on 06/07/2010 17:08:57 Originally by: Squat Hardpeck I crafted a ship capable of going through this wormhole and into Jove space. I lost it for many a year until one day, out in the deep depths of space, it miraculously reappeared. I traveled for months reaching the now derelict ship, but what I discovered was horrifying. All the crew was murdered in such a grotesque fashion it makes my stomach churn just pondering it. Upon checking the ship's logs to ascertain exactly what occurred on this ship, it turned out the portal this ship jumped through went to an alternate dimension. A place of torture, death, and hell. The ship then took on a life of its own, as if it were alive. Doors would open and close by themselves and lights would turn on and off. A figure would stare at me out of the corner of my eye, but whenever I turned to look, it was gone. The ship was gunning for me. It wanted to bring me into its fold. I had to get out, or I was going to die. I overloaded the ship's core and planted charges throughout its hull. I barely escaped with my life. This memory, this horrible memory that will stay with me forever is a testament to what the urge of discovery and exploration will take you. No one goes to Jove. Nobody ever makes it out alive. Event horizon [Edit] ^^ Beat me too it
Illwill Jill Gallente Nifelhem	Posted - 2010.07.06 17:13:00 - [15] It came back abandoned, but it didn't come back alone.
Abdiel Kavash Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2010.07.06 17:38:00 - [16] Move to RP area, or pics or didn't happen.
Metalcali	Posted - 2010.07.06 17:43:00 - [17] It's topics and possibilities like this that EVE truly needs to expand further on. Of course, people don't want more carebear/highsec stuff, but the slight chances to discover puzzles and small back stories in exploration sites and wormholes would just add bigger better level to this wonderful game. Naturally, once puzzles are solved it kinda loses it's mystique, but the rush to discover these rare parts of eve lore would be very worth it.
Messoroz	Posted - 2010.07.06 17:44:00 - [18] Originally by: Metalcali It's topics and possibilities like this that EVE truly needs to expand further on. Of course, people don't want more carebear/highsec stuff, but the slight chances to discover puzzles and small back stories in exploration sites and wormholes would just add bigger better level to this wonderful game. Naturally, once puzzles are solved it kinda loses it's mystique, but the rush to discover these rare parts of eve lore would be very worth it. See the really scary forum called Intergallatic Summit. No really, it scares me with all those rping lunatics in there.
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey THAT Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.06 17:51:00 - [19] Originally by: Abdiel Kavash Move to RP area, or pics or didn't happen. If we weren't talking Out of Game - I'd agree, but we're not. The discussion is entirely OOC, out of Game.
Metalcali	Posted - 2010.07.06 18:30:00 - [20] Originally by: Messoroz Originally by: Metalcali It's topics and possibilities like this that EVE truly needs to expand further on. Of course, people don't want more carebear/highsec stuff, but the slight chances to discover puzzles and small back stories in exploration sites and wormholes would just add bigger better level to this wonderful game. Naturally, once puzzles are solved it kinda loses it's mystique, but the rush to discover these rare parts of eve lore would be very worth it. See the really scary forum called Intergallatic Summit. No really, it scares me with all those rping lunatics in there. Go there often, just commenting on more things in game than on the forums.

Something Random Gallente The Barrow Boys	Posted - 2010.07.06 18:34:00 - [21] Originally by: Metalcali It's topics and possibilities like this that EVE truly needs to expand further on. Of course, people don't want more carebear/highsec stuff, but the slight chances to discover puzzles and small back stories in exploration sites and wormholes would just add bigger better level to this wonderful game. Naturally, once puzzles are solved it kinda loses it's mystique, but the rush to discover these rare parts of eve lore would be very worth it. I agree with you. COSMOS does a fair job of throwing 'quests' out to you as a capsuleer. You can forage and try to find vague hints as you go along and sometimes just need help to complete a mission arm. This interests me, i have deliberately left some of them open to me so i can get the 'hit' at low points. What i would like to see is more oddities to seek out. So if wormhole space has some secrets we have yet to discover i would like them to be secrets that had an actual finish that wasnt merely a hole of no content 'yet'. IMO the COSMOS side of things could get expanded a little now, and there is some perfect real estate. Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm: Aint that right?
Ghoest	Posted - 2010.07.06 18:40:00 - [22] It was explicitly satted in the beginning of EVE that the Jovians caused the disease themselves. Wherever you went - Here you are.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.07.06 18:49:00 - [23] Originally by: Ghoest It was explicitly satted in the beginning of EVE that the Jovians caused the disease themselves. Pff. Amarrian propaganda. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Salria Usenheart	Posted - 2010.07.06 19:10:00 - [24] Jove disease was caused by them modifying themselves to the point where they lost control of their basic instincts, it still effects them to this day. Sleepers as far as we know were designed by the Talocan race. Human species werent the first in this part of the universe, we dont know if how much was known about these ancient races before the collapse of the Eve Gate, but we do know that Joves knew about wormholes and t3 tech long before the 4 playable races did, as they survived the collapse of the eve gate, and recovered quicker and already had an ancient functioning gate system to use instead of having to design one from a broken one or wreckage and so advanced much quicker.
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey THAT Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.06 19:51:00 - [25] Originally by: Salria Usenheart Jove disease was caused by them modifying themselves to the point where they lost control of their basic instincts, it still effects them to this day. Sleepers as far as we know were designed by the Talocan race. Human species werent the first in this part of the universe, we dont know if how much was known about these ancient races before the collapse of the Eve Gate, but we do know that Joves knew about wormholes and t3 tech long before the 4 playable races did, as they survived the collapse of the eve gate, and recovered quicker and already had an ancient functioning gate system to use instead of having to design one from a broken one or wreckage and so advanced much quicker. What secrets then, do you suspect the sleepers are harbouring?
Obsidian Hawk RONA Legion	Posted - 2010.07.06 19:52:00 - [26] This is interesting but we don't know what exactly happened. We do know that there were 5 predecessor races Jove being the only true ones still around. Talocan - drones around Sleeper - drones around Yang-Jung - nothing known Takmahl - nothing known. Jove - still around. Though I think the Jove disease was some left over combination of biological weapons and too much genetic mutations.
Salria Usenheart	Posted - 2010.07.06 20:09:00 - [27] Edited by: Salria Usenheart on 06/07/2010 20:16:31 Edited by: Salria Usenheart on 06/07/2010 20:10:51 Originally by: Obsidian Hawk Though I think the Jove disease was some left over combination of biological weapons and too much genetic mutations. Na Jove disease was that they modified themselves too much and destroyed their basic instincts and now a high percentage of their population fall into depression and die within 20 days or so. Theres actually an image of a Sleeper cruiser playing with rogue drones in kspace somewhere, we find the remains of parts of the talocan and sleeper races in wh space, but we are only seeing a few systems in their galaxy, perhaps parts of their population survived in areas we cant access cause the gate system in their space doesnt exist or was destroyed / quarantined.
Terrus Valkin Gallente ArmoredCore Armed Forces	Posted - 2010.07.06 20:28:00 - [28] Huh, that's the last thing I expected to see when I checked in today. It's not fame but I'll take it.
Wyke Mossari Gallente Staner Industries	Posted - 2010.07.06 20:34:00 - [29] The speculating in those threads has no basis in the known back story. The ancient races came through the worm hole from Earth. They had a huge war using WH weapons and came close extinguishing each other and all life as well. The apparent winners where the Jovians and what we call sleepers retreated into wormholes. The sleepers probably didn't call them selves that, and it's unclear if from the prime fiction if who they are the remnants of which culture. It could be the previous-history of one current empires or one of the lost ancient races. The Jovians develop the younger races through nurturing them. (Obviously inspired by the Vorlons from B5) The Sleepers agents of chaos and conflict, which is why they created the rogue drones. (Obviously inspired by the Shadows from B5) The remaining ancient races are obviously inspired by various ancient Earth Cultures. Talocan (Aztecs), Takhaml (India) and Yan Jung (China) and obviously being held in reserve for when the sleepers become stale.
Ascendic Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.07.06 20:55:00 - [30] Originally by: Illwill Jill It came back abandoned, but it didn't come back alone. DUN DUN DUNNNNNNN



Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.