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Mike Benneon
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Posted - 2010.07.07 19:33:00 -
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Edited by: Mike Benneon on 07/07/2010 19:35:04 My skills are showing in my profile, if you want check them out to see what i can aim for to fir my ship.
Link to my profile: http://www.eveonline.com/character/skilltree.asp?characterID=1808816026
I want you to find me a good PVP (preferably against frigates) setup for caracal. My current fitting is:
Large Slot:
3x Heavy Missile Launchers (Loaded with Widowmaker or EMP damage missiles) 1x Heavy Assault Missile Launcher (Loaded with terror missiles) 1x Medium hybrid turret (loaded with antimatter M charges)
Medium Slot:
1x 1MN Afterburner 1x Medium Sheild Extender 1x Medium Sheild Recharger 1x Warp Scrambler 1x Small Hull Repairer
Low Slot:
1x 400mm Reinforced Armor Plates 1x Small Armor Repairer
Please help me, i am tired of being owned by little frigates when in my caracal...
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GavinGoodrich
Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.07.07 19:47:00 -
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Edited by: GavinGoodrich on 07/07/2010 19:47:55 [Caracal, Frig killer cheap] Ballistic Control System I Ballistic Control System I
Large Shield Extender I Large Shield Extender I 10MN MicroWarpdrive I 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I Warp Disruptor II
SV-2000 Assault Missile Bay, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile SV-2000 Assault Missile Bay, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile SV-2000 Assault Missile Bay, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile SV-2000 Assault Missile Bay, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile SV-2000 Assault Missile Bay, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Warrior I x2
If you want to invest more, go t2 on whatever you can afford easily.
Don't skimp on ammo. Use navy unless you can use t2 precision missiles. Those are great for frigs.
Warrior 2's are the most common light drone, as it's the fastest, followed by acolytes. Tech 2 on those perferred.
This is a frig killer. Great fleet support. Does crap damage on anything bigger than a destroyer. Costs under 10 mil a pop.
*edit* removed t2 mods for example. Notice you never skimp on a t2 point \o |
Mike Benneon
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Posted - 2010.07.07 20:06:00 -
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Sounds real good, but, do you have anything cheaper? I just have 17 million...
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GavinGoodrich
Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.07.07 20:21:00 -
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Edited by: GavinGoodrich on 07/07/2010 20:22:30 Edited by: GavinGoodrich on 07/07/2010 20:21:35 Ship down to a cormorant then, as the Caracal's a bit steep for what you have on you.
[Cormorant, Frig Killer Cheap] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
1MN MicroWarpdrive I Stasis Webifier I Warp Disruptor II Medium Shield Extender I
Light Ion Blaster I, Caldari navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster I, Caldari navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster I, Caldari navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster I, Caldari navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster I, Caldari navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster I, Caldari navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster I, Caldari navy Antimatter Charge S Small Nosferatu I
Small Ancillary Current Router I Small Ancillary Current Router I Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Depends on fitting skills. If your skills allow you can swap an ancillary rig for a hybrid dps/related rig.
Low on cpu? Swap disruptor for scrambler (as you're gonna have to be in scram range to kill anything ANYway... but the initial point is always nice to help a fleet. This thing locks pretty quick.)
A lot of rig space was sacrificed to give this thing a pretty substantial tank for something so small. It's the baseline for many FOTM smaller ships like dual-prop dramiels, buffer-tanked sabres, etc. |
Amarr Supremacist
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Posted - 2010.07.07 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Mike Benneon Sounds real good, but, do you have anything cheaper? I just have 17 million...
I'm surprised he didn't get it after this. ____________
HYDRA Reloaded - 2nd place at Alliance Tournament 8 EVE-Arena is awesome!
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Mike Benneon
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Posted - 2010.07.07 20:45:00 -
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Thank you guys! And what do you mean by your last post? I am greek
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GavinGoodrich
Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.07.07 20:54:00 -
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He means "don't pvp in what you can't afford to lose."
It's an idiom 90% or more of us live by when pvp'ing. Keeps it stress-free, 'cause it's a game and stressing out over a game generally sucks. \o |
kahhhhhnn
Lovey dovey hug club
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Posted - 2010.07.07 20:57:00 -
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Gav you got trolled mate.
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GavinGoodrich
Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.07.07 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: kahhhhhnn Gav you got trolled mate.
Wouldn't suprise me \o |
Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Reckoning.
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Posted - 2010.07.07 21:08:00 -
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Eh, a people and places search made me suspect that this -isn't- a troll.
Anyway, rather than give you a fit, I'm going to explain why your current fit is bad.
First and foremost: Hull repper? No. Hull repairers are terrible, end of story. They're not meant to be used seriously in a fight. They exist so that you can refit them in station and undock to repair your hull if you don't want to pay for the station service. That's it.
Secondly: Tank mixing. Any tank module for a given tank type (Shield, armor) synergizes with others. For example, a shield extender lets you last longer before exploding, giving your booster more time to run. A proper tank is more than the sum of its parts.
That said, it is almost never a good idea to mix tanks. Your low slots can be used for far more useful things than a minor armor tank. For example, ballistic control units and maybe a damage control. Damage control is probably the only exception to the "don't mix tank" rule because it increases your buffer so damn much for so little cost.
Almost all Caldari ships have mostly mid slots...so they almost exclusively shield tank.
Secondly...Gun mixing. No. A hybrid turret has no place on a caracal. The ship gives absolutely no bonuses to it, and that slot could be used for a bonused launcher.
There's generally no reason to mix launcher types. Long range weapons aren't good at short range and vice versa...So you're going to be fitting a full rack of one type of weapon (Otherwise you're simply terrible at two ranges instead of being good at one).
The explosion velocity and explosion radius of heavy missiles and heavy assault missiles prevents them from doing good damage to frigates. Instead, you should be using assault missile launchers. They are cruiser-sized missile launchers that fire light missiles. Thus, you should be fitting those.
Finally...wtf, 1mn afterburner? 1mn is frigate-sized. It will do nothing for you. You need at least 10mn.
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GavinGoodrich
Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.07.07 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden A proper tank is more than the sum of its parts.
Spoken like a chinese guru. \o |
yani dumyat
Minmatar The 23rd Sense
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Posted - 2010.07.07 23:50:00 -
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In case any new players read this thread you should be aware that anyone who claims to have 17 Million ISK has been infected by a forum meme, it's the EVE equivalent of HIV. A player becomes infected after soliciting with trolls and their psychological immune system starts to brake down, after a long illness they become incapable of protecting themselves from the constant stream of repetitive phrases on these forums.
Eventually it becomes full blown AIDS (A$$hole Immunity Deficiency Syndrome) and the player will be forced to live in shame under a bridge, they will grow warts and prey on any noob who passes over their bridge by throwing memes at them. This being the caring EVE community we do not extricate these poor sufferers, we taunt them and feed them noobs instead.
Oh if if you were actually looking for a caracal fit the one Gavin posted is solid, the dual web 'Gypsio' fit is also popular:
[Caracal, little ass] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
10MN MicroWarpdrive I Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Large Shield Extender II
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Warrior II x2
I tend to go for a bit more maneuverability so have started using this:
[Caracal, nano] Ballistic Control System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II
10MN MicroWarpdrive I Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Warrior II x2
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.07.08 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: Mike Benneon Edited by: Mike Benneon on 07/07/2010 19:35:04 My skills are showing in my profile, if you want check them out to see what i can aim for to fir my ship.
Link to my profile: http://www.eveonline.com/character/skilltree.asp?characterID=1808816026
I want you to find me a good PVP (preferably against frigates) setup for caracal. My current fitting is:
Large Slot:
3x Heavy Missile Launchers (Loaded with Widowmaker or EMP damage missiles) 1x Heavy Assault Missile Launcher (Loaded with terror missiles) 1x Medium hybrid turret (loaded with antimatter M charges)
Medium Slot:
1x 1MN Afterburner 1x Medium Sheild Extender 1x Medium Sheild Recharger 1x Warp Scrambler 1x Small Hull Repairer
Low Slot:
1x 400mm Reinforced Armor Plates 1x Small Armor Repairer
Please help me, i am tired of being owned by little frigates when in my caracal...
Hai Intigo. \o
Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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