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HarrietMiers
I'M ON A BOAT
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Posted - 2010.07.12 23:57:00 -
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Edited by: HarrietMiers on 12/07/2010 23:57:12
Anyone else here betting this game fail cascades before ccp fixes their broken (albeit still beautiful) game?
Taking bets now.
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Julienne Poirier
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Posted - 2010.07.13 00:01:00 -
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Edited by: Julienne Poirier on 13/07/2010 00:02:33
everything will be alright
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Bilko Bobski
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Posted - 2010.07.13 00:02:00 -
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I think that other than a small minority of players - most notably those who feel it's appropriate to make a duplicate thread to complain about a feature or lack of feature from CCP - the eve community is smart enough to stay and enjoy the existing game, which is currently being improved every week.
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Felix Esperium
Lysergic Distortions Research and Development
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Posted - 2010.07.13 00:03:00 -
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yep eve is dead, quick send me all your stuff before they pull the plug.
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Hari Markkus
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Posted - 2010.07.13 01:03:00 -
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Icelandic executives have form when it comes to making decisions that have fatal consequences for their companies.
Bugs are bearable if you believe that hey are being worked on and a fix will be coming. Otherwise customers just tend to close the socket (hint, hint) on the under-performing supplier.
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.07.13 01:05:00 -
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lol yeah
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HarrietMiers
I'M ON A BOAT
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Posted - 2010.07.13 01:23:00 -
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 Originally by: Felix Esperium
yep eve is dead, quick send me all your stuff before they pull the plug.
Original response bro.
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Felix Esperium
Lysergic Distortions Research and Development
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Posted - 2010.07.13 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers
Original response bro.
original whine bro
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Ori Blake
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Posted - 2010.07.13 01:25:00 -
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It depends whether or not Jumpgate Evolution, Black Prophecy, Guild Wars 2, or TOR suck or not. I don't think being able to be a space bartender is going to keep me playing, you know?
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HarrietMiers
I'M ON A BOAT
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Posted - 2010.07.13 01:56:00 -
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Originally by: Felix Esperium
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Original response bro.
original whine bro
Hey moron, the CSM minutes were just announced. You should look up the definition of original before making terrible posts.
This situation is complete and utter garbage, and people should be beating pots and pans on not just this forum, but any of the popular MMORPG boards.
And sure, you can have my stuff.... in 18 months.
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.07.13 01:58:00 -
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I doubt it. It seems incomprehensible that they'd really be so boneheaded as to epic fail the way they seem to want to in the CSM minutes. And its not like it's a smear campaign by the CSM because CCP edited the document and approved it. They seem to think its ok to let horribly broken **** sit for 2+ years?
TBQFH, I am probably going to end up voting with my wallet here. It won't be immediately, for sure.... but I'm feeling like by the time CCP gets around to fixing the game I play today that I'll have 2+ years invested in another MMO.
-Liang
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Felix Esperium
Lysergic Distortions Research and Development
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Posted - 2010.07.13 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers
Hey moron, the CSM minutes were just announced. You should look up the definition of original before making terrible posts.
This situation is complete and utter garbage, and people should be beating pots and pans on not just this forum, but any of the popular MMORPG boards.
And sure, you can have my stuff.... in 18 months.
Eve is dieing, same whine different reason.
Your stuff probably sucks anyway.
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HarrietMiers
I'M ON A BOAT
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Posted - 2010.07.13 02:14:00 -
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Originally by: Felix Esperium
Originally by: HarrietMiers
Hey moron, the CSM minutes were just announced. You should look up the definition of original before making terrible posts.
This situation is complete and utter garbage, and people should be beating pots and pans on not just this forum, but any of the popular MMORPG boards.
And sure, you can have my stuff.... in 18 months.
Eve is dieing, same whine different reason.
Your stuff probably sucks anyway.
I've resisted the temptation to jump on the "eve is dying" bandwagon since 03. (Yes, people were saying it was going to die before the game started proper.) However how can you possibly read their response to CSM any other way?
There decision to push DUST/Incarna over fixing the ****ing game will, possibly, go down as the worst decision since STG patch of doom.
No offense brah, but this decision is an embarrassment to the company.
"Excellent is what we strive to be..." don't make me bloody laugh.
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Felix Esperium
Lysergic Distortions Research and Development
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Posted - 2010.07.13 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers
I've resisted the temptation to jump on the "eve is dying" bandwagon since 03. (Yes, people were saying it was going to die before the game started proper.) However how can you possibly read their response to CSM any other way?
There decision to push DUST/Incarna over fixing the ****ing game will, possibly, go down as the worst decision since STG patch of doom.
No offense brah, but this decision is an embarrassment to the company.
"Excellent is what we strive to be..." don't make me bloody laugh.
First of all, why all the "bro" "brah" stuff? I prefer m8 if you are gonna use something silly like that.
Secondly, I really don't like this sort response by CCP either but I honestly don't think it's gonna kill the game. Cost some subs? maybe. I have absolutely no interest in dust or incarna but I imagine lots of other people (coming from other games perhaps) will like that sort of functionality. The major problem is going to be when they roll out this stuff after 18 months and it is still broken. Then I will be really ****ed.
In any case, Eve is not dead and I am still looking for free stuff.
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Xennifer
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Posted - 2010.07.13 02:27:00 -
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Doesn't take a degree in finance to understand new products are going to net them more than improvements to EVE, which has always had a small diehard fanbase. If they thought improving EVE would get them a million subscribers over the next year, you better believe they'd have more fixes on the way, but that's not the case and it never will be. Eve is small beans in the MMO community of today. Accept the fact that we're lucky it's not any worse than it currently is, given it's age.
I'm not towing the party line here, or suggesting that nobody should quit because omg it's going to be better soon, but tbh it's your money and your time. If you aren't having fun, cancel your sub. If enough people aren't having fun and start canceling, that's how the message comes across. Regardless of the craptacular (I agree) minutes from the CSM, threads like this aren't going to turn any heads at CCP and I really hope you aren't naieve enough to think that popular opinion of the players matters.
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HarrietMiers
I'M ON A BOAT
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Posted - 2010.07.13 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: Felix Esperium
First of all, why all the "bro" "brah" stuff? I prefer m8 if you are gonna use something silly like that.
Relax brosef.
Originally by: Felix Esperium
Secondly, I really don't like this sort response by CCP either but I honestly don't think it's gonna kill the game. Cost some subs? maybe. I have absolutely no interest in dust or incarna but I imagine lots of other people (coming from other games perhaps) will like that sort of functionality. The major problem is going to be when they roll out this stuff after 18 months and it is still broken. Then I will be really ****ed.
I've heard this one before (from ccp, not you.) If I might crosspost:
Originally by: Musical Fist
Incarna will be released after lag gets fixed
lag will get fixed after blasters get fixed
blasters will get fixed after field commands get fixed
field commands will get fixed after dust is released
dust will be released when it is impossible to NAP 50k people
It will be impossible to NAP 50k people when rockets get fixed
Rockets will get fixed when T3 frigs come out
T3 frigs will come out....
Originally by: Felix Esperium
I am still looking for free stuff.
I already told you, you'll get it...
in 18 months brah.
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Felix Esperium
Lysergic Distortions Research and Development
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Posted - 2010.07.13 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers
I already told you, you'll get it...
in 18 months brah.
sweet, thanks broheim. brofriend. broaster. broad.
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HarrietMiers
I'M ON A BOAT
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Posted - 2010.07.13 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: Felix Esperium
Originally by: HarrietMiers
I already told you, you'll get it...
in 18 months brah.
sweet, thanks broheim. brofriend. broaster. broad.
<3
Boss. Chief. Capn. Buddy. Dude. Bucko.
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Sempress Kaye
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Posted - 2010.07.14 08:38:00 -
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Originally by: Felix Esperium
sweet, thanks broheim. brofriend. broaster. broad.
Quoting to confirm Harriet got out-broseffed.
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Felix Esperium
Lysergic Distortions Research and Development
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Posted - 2010.07.14 08:57:00 -
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you can call me Brostradamus.
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democrities
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Posted - 2010.07.14 09:00:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers
Edited by: HarrietMiers on 12/07/2010 23:57:12
Anyone else here betting this game fail cascades before ccp fixes their broken (albeit still beautiful) game?
Taking bets now.
No, it won't, and I am surprised how so unaware some of you are in this respect. If Eve is the only MMO you've played, this is excusable. I have played several, and a long time theme I notice in almost everyone is the veteran players claiming that the devs have killed the game, that it is going to fail soon because of X or Y change, etc.
90 percent of the time this is baseless and has no merit in reality. The only time I have seen this play out is in starwars galaxies, where changes made to that game really did sink it.
Be that as it may, I think this falls into the 90 percent category, ie: not going to happen.
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.07.14 09:05:00 -
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Originally by: democrities
No, it won't, and I am surprised how so unaware some of you are in this respect. If Eve is the only MMO you've played, this is excusable. I have played several, and a long time theme I notice in almost everyone is the veteran players claiming that the devs have killed the game, that it is going to fail soon because of X or Y change, etc.
90 percent of the time this is baseless and has no merit in reality. The only time I have seen this play out is in starwars galaxies, where changes made to that game really did sink it.
Be that as it may, I think this falls into the 90 percent category, ie: not going to happen.
Seems to me that "senior players" aren't such a bad barometer of an MMO's impending demise. The MMO market is littered with corpses where the senior players accurately predicted doom - perhaps repeatedly, but always successfully.
Not that I think this will necessarily kill Eve.
-Liang
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democrities
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Posted - 2010.07.14 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: democrities
No, it won't, and I am surprised how so unaware some of you are in this respect. If Eve is the only MMO you've played, this is excusable. I have played several, and a long time theme I notice in almost everyone is the veteran players claiming that the devs have killed the game, that it is going to fail soon because of X or Y change, etc.
90 percent of the time this is baseless and has no merit in reality. The only time I have seen this play out is in starwars galaxies, where changes made to that game really did sink it.
Be that as it may, I think this falls into the 90 percent category, ie: not going to happen.
Seems to me that "senior players" aren't such a bad barometer of an MMO's impending demise. The MMO market is littered with corpses where the senior players accurately predicted doom - perhaps repeatedly, but always successfully.
Not that I think this will necessarily kill Eve.
-Liang
really? Do you know how long WoW players have been claiming the game is going to die? Heck even both EQs still exist even though players claim otherwise. Senior players arent a good barometer, they are just out of that comfort zone.
The senior players got set in on how a game was, and got so used to it they hate any changes.
Its sort of like, say you go to a restruaunt for a long time and you like a particular item on the menu, but then after a few years they change the recipe and it doesnt uite taste the same to you. Doesnt mean the food wont sell, but that you might not be used to it.
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Sempress Kaye
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Posted - 2010.07.14 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
The MMO market is littered with corpses where the senior players accurately predicted doom - perhaps repeatedly, but always successfully.
-Liang
Kind of a odd thing to state.
Simple example.
If the senior players keep saying the game will die, they will eventually be right.
Do take into account that they'll have to keep saying it for years upon years to be able to actually claim they were right all along. 
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Gistatis Tribunus
The Unknown Bar and Pub
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Posted - 2010.07.14 09:33:00 -
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I wrote a lengthy 3 paragraph response to your OP, but I thought it looked dumb so I deleted it all. I invite you instead to contemplate this statement:
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Jennifer Fenring
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.07.14 09:42:00 -
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Honestly I don't think CCP will "die" if CCP won't fix the bugs and incoveniences.
1. Many of them already exist for more than 18 months and the playerbase hasn't decreased;
2. Veterans are less and less likely to give up their years of investment the longer they play.
Originally by: Xennifer
Doesn't take a degree in finance to understand new products are going to net them more than improvements to EVE, which has always had a small diehard fanbase. If they thought improving EVE would get them a million subscribers over the next year, you better believe they'd have more fixes on the way, but that's not the case and it never will be.
Yes I also think the "small diehard fanbase" is the thing that makes CCP look further. The income generated by 300,000 accounts isn't really a lot for an international firm. Of course it's also due to the lacking tutorial and other things that won't make people stick so also CCP's own priorities that are due to this fact.
But I agree, with 3 million subs this wouldn't be happening.
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc.
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Posted - 2010.07.14 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
I doubt it. It seems incomprehensible that they'd really be so boneheaded as to epic fail the way they seem to want to in the CSM minutes. And its not like it's a smear campaign by the CSM because CCP edited the document and approved it. They seem to think its ok to let horribly broken **** sit for 2+ years?
TBQFH, I am probably going to end up voting with my wallet here. It won't be immediately, for sure.... but I'm feeling like by the time CCP gets around to fixing the game I play today that I'll have 2+ years invested in another MMO.
-Liang
Already ahead of you, while there's no actual new good MMO's out there there are some gems that are now free to play, DDO being one of them. While it most certainly doesn't have internet spaceship or PVP it's refreshing and a nice change of pace.
CCP better start working.
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Jennifer Fenring
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.07.14 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Marko Riva
Already ahead of you, while there's no actual new good MMO's out there there are some gems that are now free to play, DDO being one of them. While it most certainly doesn't have internet spaceship or PVP it's refreshing and a nice change of pace.
Really, DDO free? I did some betas for that game some time ago and decided it was too buggy and limited, didn't know it was for free now!
But yes I agree, EVE should watch out for other Sci Fi games, they're lucky most aren't very successful thus far. Especially younger players who don't have a lot (of SP) to leave behind in EVE may jump the bandwagon once that happens, nothing nicer than making a new start where all players start equally and discovering a new world without the help of myriads of on-line guides because everything's been done, seen and discovered already.
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ThisIsNotMyAlt
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Posted - 2010.07.14 10:01:00 -
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Damn, a few angry eve players will stop paying for one of there 13 alt accounts. CCP be shaking in fear. Eve is dying again. Oh noees ! |
democrities
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Posted - 2010.07.14 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: ThisIsNotMyAlt
Damn, a few angry eve players will stop paying for one of there 13 alt accounts. CCP be shaking in fear. Eve is dying again. Oh noees !
Again? Im pretty new, but enlighten me, it seems from your tone that your saying this isnt the first time the forum has been ripe with posts lamenting Eves demise?
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Chopper Rollins
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.07.14 10:10:00 -
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J. Fenring said: ...nothing nicer than making a new start where all players start equally and discovering a new world without the help of myriads of on-line guides because everything's been done, seen and discovered already.
I've been playing for a year now, and coming to the forums for insight risks a real deadening of my enjoyment of EvE. The glazed-eyed, slump shouldered 'i know everything' attitudes, especially from MMO customers who pretend expertise when they are CUSTOMERS...
Fail thread is fail.
That is all.
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ThisIsNotMyAlt
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Posted - 2010.07.14 10:13:00 -
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Originally by: democrities
Again? Im pretty new, but enlighten me, it seems from your tone that your saying this isnt the first time the forum has been ripe with posts lamenting Eves demise?
this is a constant state within the forums and the eve player base. |
Winters Chill
Amarr
Shadow Legion.
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Posted - 2010.07.14 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers
Edited by: HarrietMiers on 12/07/2010 23:57:12
Anyone else here betting this game fail cascades before ccp fixes their broken (albeit still beautiful) game?
Taking bets now.
Im not CCPs biggest fan, nor do I consider myself one. I consider myself a customer, I choose to play eve because despite its faults it still pretty good. Like going to a restaurant you enjoy despite the fact you know one of the waiters is a total ****.
I say if you don't like it LEAVE. Its that simple. Vote with your wallet. If your just being a junvinile attention seeker you could at least raise a legitimate concern. That is all.
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Disco Baby
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Posted - 2010.07.14 10:42:00 -
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link to whats going to happen in 18 months ?
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ThisIsNotMyAlt
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Posted - 2010.07.14 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: Disco Baby
link to whats going to happen in 18 months ?
here you go
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Ryoko Chan
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Posted - 2010.07.15 11:30:00 -
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Oh sure the game will be 'fixed' in 18 months. Most of us won't want to stop training skills in the meantime. So that's a lot of payments we got to make to wait for the game to be 'fixed'.
Its like financing a car and you take it for repairs at the dealer and they say "You car will be ready in 18 months." Meanwhile you think now I got to wait and pay for 18 months for something that should not have been a problem to begin with.
There's also always the chance you show up 18 months later and they tell you "Sorry buddy. We ran into a little trouble. You'll have to come back again sometime next year."
If you financially support a business with a modus operandi like this, you get what you deserve really.
The problem is that the MMORPG community is too demanding of their games and there are always groups wanting tons of different things. Unless CCP can release enough content to please -everyone- all at once, they'll never get out of this cycle.
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CeneUJiti
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Posted - 2010.07.15 11:45:00 -
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Thats the most terrible thing. Nothing will be fixed in 18 months. Oh no. CCP said that they might start thinking about fixing stuff at that time, so no real fixes for over two years at lest. Thats why we should be worried and raise as much voice as we can.
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Terminal Insanity
Minmatar
U-208
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Posted - 2010.07.15 11:56:00 -
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The player community is too tight to be broken by another heap of ****.
It will endure mounds and mounds more. Eventually it will break, when a fresher sandbox is placed beside everyone... but i don't see one coming that could tip this community off its stained sneakers just yet.
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putopugno
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Posted - 2010.07.15 12:09:00 -
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A thought for you people:
If you think EVE is so bad, go play Anarchy Online. Go on its free, I'll even sit here and wait.
Now when you get back we can discuss just how "unpolished" EVE is.
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Amerilia
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Posted - 2010.07.15 12:13:00 -
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Edited by: Amerilia on 15/07/2010 12:13:46
Originally by: putopugno
A thought for you people:
If you think EVE is so bad, go play Anarchy Online. Go on its free, I'll even sit here and wait.
Now when you get back we can discuss just how "unpolished" EVE is.
Anarchy online is very polished, the only bug I have ever encountered is a door beeing not exactly placed.
*edit which I reported and was fixed in 3 days, with the next patch.
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Ryoko Chan
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Posted - 2010.07.15 12:27:00 -
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I'll actually be playing Uncharted Waters Online.
Uncharted Waters was basically Eve Offline of the 16 bit era.
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Ana Vyr
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Posted - 2010.07.15 13:10:00 -
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Until the day comes when you can find a sci fi MMO with this sort of depth, EvE is going to endure.
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Cyberman Mastermind
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Posted - 2010.07.15 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ryoko Chan
The problem is that the MMORPG community is too demanding of their games and there are always groups wanting tons of different things. Unless CCP can release enough content to please -everyone- all at once, they'll never get out of this cycle.
I think it's the opposite, really.
If CCP would actually stick to one feature and see it through, they could release fewer features but make most people happy.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.07.15 17:19:00 -
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18 months till ccp starts focusing on the older content does not mean they will do nothing at all as far as general bug fixes in between though. Besides people will be off walking in stations and pew pewing in dust for most of that time so yet again it will have no real negative impact on subscriptions past us bitter old vets shaking our fists over fw and other stuff we want fixed. Tbh I would rather have that stuff worked on now but the reality of the situation is that ccp literally put all its development eggs into incarna and dust and has nothing left to use until they are done with both.
Originally by: Balsak
Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
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Jasdemi
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Posted - 2010.07.15 17:30:00 -
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Can I haz' your stuffs?
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Elendar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.15 17:31:00 -
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talk about depressing for the future
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Ascendic
Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.07.15 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: putopugno
A thought for you people:
If you think EVE is so bad, go play Anarchy Online. Go on its free, I'll even sit here and wait.
Now when you get back we can discuss just how "unpolished" EVE is.
So wait. You are telling me to go play a free to play game and then compare how awful its content is commpared to EVE?
Are you f**king stupid?? That is like saying hey look how laggy that dudes FREE internet connection is - Mine is so much better (I pay $15/mo)
Take your head out of your ass before you post please.
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Ryhss
Caldari
Ominous Corp
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Posted - 2010.07.15 18:04:00 -
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Edited by: Ryhss on 15/07/2010 18:04:55
Eve is dying?! AGAIN?!
Originally by: Abrazzar
I don't know what's going on but I am terribly upset about it. 
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