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Subtarian	Posted - 2010.07.18 01:32:00 - [1] Edited by: Subtarian on 18/07/2010 01:35:27 s Originally by: Demolishar Originally by: Corelich Edited by: Corelich on 15/07/2010 22:11:12 Originally by: Demolishar Originally by: Ava Starfire I wondered how long it would be until people spewing "omg minmatar is overpowered!" became common. I also wonder how many of them actually fly minmatar. My guess would be, not many. Why would you want the ships you fly nerfed? Anyway, I mainly fly a Curse. It's the premier Amarr nano-cruiser. So WHY does it go 1400m/s to a Vaga's 2500m/s? Sure I can understand Minmatar should be a bit faster... but the difference is ridiculously huge. See also: Ishtar, 1500m/s and Cerberus, 1400m/s. Minmatar isn't just "faster" it's OMGWTFSUPERFAST!!!! Their racial bonus of (speed) is too much. Why can Amarr ships not have nearly twice as much (Armor) as Minmatar, or Caldari nearly twice as much (Shield), or Gallente nearly twice as much (DPS)? Maybe its the unique ship"power" of the ship? It doesnt neut like the curse, it doesnt tank as well as the curse (afaik, but im not 100% sure about this), it does not much damage, its just fast. Thats it. Its called variety between ships. And its only 1! Ship. Not all Minmatar like it sounds in your posts. Ps. I can fly the Vagabond, but i dont do it anymore. It doesn't neut like the Curse. That much is true, although it still has a neut to neut off tackle. However, it tanks a LOT better than the Curse (35,000 EHP with pretty even resists) as opposed to a Curse with 25000-30000 (standard non-supertanked fits) and a MASSIVE EM AND THERMAL HOLE IN CAPS CAUSE ITS SO MASSIVE! And Vagabond does nearly twice the dps of a Curse (Curse does 240, 300 with launchers, while Vaga has an EFT DPS of well over 500 with a standard fit, and can project this DPS from the very start of a fight, while the Curse is still waiting for its drones to slowly reach the other ship), with switchable damage types to boot, and it doesn't lose a couple mil worth of T2 medium drones if it has to GTFO in a hurry. I often lose kills with my Curse because the DPS is very low, and things de-agress or jump. I often get jammed by ECM drones before the end of a fight, because fights take such a long time, even though I have twice the SS of a Vaga. I often miss out on kills because of the low scanres of the Curse. I get forced to retreat by things like Drakes which exploit my EM hole and cant be broken with my low DPS. Everyone and his dog uses capless tanks these days, or cap boosters, so my neuts rarely help me to finish a fight any quicker. All these downsides and you don't think the Curse deserves a little bit more speed? wow.....um...Im kinda of speechless..I cant belive you are comparing a RECON to a HAC...lmao...really you need to stop posting. First off lets look at the curse shall we...NO other ship in the game has such a wide target selection as the curse. You dont need 400dps plus because any ship being neuted only has a descent chance to to survive. You dont need 2500 m/s because any ships that get within your grasp is going to have there propulsion mods shut down...so now there blazing 2500 m/s is now only 400 m/s You ask any vagabond pilot and they will tell you to AVOID those dreaded ship like a CURSE. Second quit trying to buffer the ship and put an active armor tank on it.throw some eanms and a repper sit at range Tracking disrupt and pwn ur target. ITS a FREAKING RECON No other recon can even come close to a curse.....the best in the game really. Vagabonds makes one mistake ..getting neuted or web scram and we die like flies enough said p.s im still laughing from the thought of mini being overpowered.....LMAO 3.5 years and this is the first Ive ever heard those words....LMAO
Subtarian	Posted - 2010.07.18 01:56:00 - [2] Edited by: Subtarian on 18/07/2010 01:56:28 And one more thing the curse have 4 low slots thats really has no other usage besides tanking. your damage bonus goes to drones so why even bother putting turret/missile damage mods in them. you dont need any speed mods because with overheating an good skills u can reach 1800km and kill a cap in no time at all ...the vagabond has low slots that has to be used for damage mods along with speed mods...and only 4...4 mids to be used for propulsion and warp disruption and a paper thin buffer..thats why they fit buffer tanks..have you ever tried to armor tank a vaga with those big gapping holes in explosive an kinetic...dont work to well at all. plus your damage couldnt killa frigate.. so please oh please stop saying minnis are over powered. we are decent in the cruiser class and maybe AF class but everything else sucks. Our recons/bs dont do anything besides scare children from thier hideous looks...true story

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