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evilphoenix
modro R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.07.23 22:36:00 -
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Proposing this again.
previous thread: Linkage
Currently you can change your character's face. I would like the option to change the character name. Could charge a fee, could be part of buying a character, could be free.
I feel it would be nice for someone who bought a character to change the characters identity thus remove former associations which could be positive or negative.
Someone who wanted a specific character name, that wasn't available at the time of creation is now available (biomass processing).
Anyone who would change the picture of their character would surely be interested in changing the name.
an argument:
Quote: Allows corp thieves to change their character name and continue stealing without the community knowing or being able to track the character.
Let's say for instance I infiltrate your corporation then gain your trust and you give me access to something that is valuable. I steal it. Now you want revenge you hire mercs, post tearful threads about how you were wronged, and try to make things difficult for me. Now with this proposal I change my name. Without this proposal I can create a new character on my account, sell the evil (get it?) character and buy a new character, or wait a few week before I try to do it again.
So as you can see, it isn't difficult for me to do right now today. Sure this will be another option, but if this is the reason for not supporting this proposal you need to find a new game anyway because it will happen to you, or someone you know, or your entire alliance.
Quote: Makes pilot specific intel difficult to track. For example if there is a titan pilot that you are keeping track of being logged in, if he changes the character name you lose that intel.
Was the buddy list an intended intel tool, like local?
Quote: Could cause problems for kill rights and merc work
If this was tied to the character name rather than some other value associated with the character, it could be a problem. Easy fix would be require that the character doesn't have any kill rights.
Quote: Character tracking ect....
Surely characters are tracked using some type of unique character identifier, not the character name. Anything character specific that must be tracked, employment, kill rights, ect... could be tied to that rather than the name of the character. --------
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Proclus Diadochu
Varion Galactic OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.24 04:12:00 -
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Edited by: Proclus Diadochu on 24/07/2010 04:15:36 This seems like a very interesting concept. EVE is rife with corruption, scams, and realism to a degree and to say that being able to change your name is not feasible, which realistically it is, would be absurd.
CCP has done an excellent job at allowing real world scenarios to pollute New Eden adding to the realism of the very serious Internet Spaceship realm. Allowing the ability to change a capsuleer's name adds more dynamic to the game and provides more options for pilots in general.
As Evil put it, people buy new characters... Not everyone wants to drag the associates and issues of the previous owner. Yes, it makes hijacking easier, provides more difficulties with intel and tracking, creates issues with kill rights(which I believe Evil pointed out an excellent method for addressing this issue), but overall just adds to the depth of the game. EVE is not the easiest online game to begin with, being complex in nature, realistic. Why not add more to the realism?
Fly Safe,
Proclus Diadochu RUKE Coordinator Varion Galactic OWN Alliance
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Furb Killer
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Posted - 2010.07.24 08:59:00 -
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Why this new topic, especially since older ones were better proposals? Yes to ability to change character name, but you lack a very important part in your proposal that would make most counter arguments useless: You should be able to track characters by their old name, and searching on their new name should also give which name(s) the char used to have.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2010.07.24 12:46:00 -
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Only if it leaves a permanent link in the characters bio about how the character was formerly called. Without that, it would be a much too easy way to avoid consequence. á
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Perrigrene
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Posted - 2010.07.24 21:31:00 -
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No.
If you can't do what you want to do, which is take advantage of people trusting you by other means, a few you've listed, I don't see any reason to make it easier for you. The vast majority of requests to change a character name is to escape their past, the minority being 'changes' for aesthetic reasons or "I didn't spend any time thinking about my name", or "I don't like my name anymore" which also works as an excuse to hide the "I want to take advantage of people" crowd.
It is your character, you made the face, you picked the name, if you didn't like/want it 'forever' you should have chosen something else or just sell it and get another character.
The revolving door of alts and characters for sale is a problem in this game not something that needs boosting.
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Mr LaForge
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Posted - 2010.07.24 21:54:00 -
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Imo a name change should be allowed for 1 time only per char per account. And what I'm thinking about here is people who buy characters off the forum and want the change it to something they like. Now if that person sells that char to someone else then the new owner has the option to also change the name to something they want.
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.25 01:02:00 -
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Hey, your first thread went wrong, you should DEFINTIELY have reposted the idea, so you can get the same response.
Sollution that doesn't take any more of the extremely poorly spent dev time:
Don't buy alts with dumb names, don't make alts with dumb names.
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evilphoenix
modro R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.07.25 15:37:00 -
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Actually the first one went 9 pages. Other than all of the moaning from player's who've been scammed and seem to think their vendetta against the player actually affects his/her game play, it was successful.
There have been topics voted on by the CSM that had many fewer supporters, and much more moaning.
How many of you are the same players who desire 'realism' in your internet spaceship game? Well, it isn't that difficult to do in the US. Illegal yes, but difficult not as hard as some would have you believe.
If you want 'realism' allow only outlaws to change their name. If you don't want people to change their name everyday, set a timer to allow players to change their name every 6 months. The potential revenue for CCP, it makes me wonder why they've not done this already.
Really, I don't think we should be deciding what restrictions or how it should be implemented. I'm just requesting that it get some dev time. Proposing the idea of changing your character name. Let them decide the proper way and restrictions, that's what they get paid to do. --------
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Simvastatin Montelukast
First Flying Wing Inc The Spire Collective
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Posted - 2010.07.30 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz Only if it leaves a permanent link in the characters bio about how the character was formerly called. Without that, it would be a much too easy way to avoid consequence.
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evilphoenix
modro R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.08.19 10:20:00 -
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bump --------
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WarpOut All
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Posted - 2010.08.19 11:16:00 -
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Very good idea, i hate be primary on fleet fight in my alt who was nick A........
+1
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Aphrodite Skripalle
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Posted - 2010.08.19 11:18:00 -
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No. if you buy a corp thieve, its your problem. Burn in Hell. /not signed
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T'Amber
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.19 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz it would be a much too easy way to avoid consequence.
If you do something stupid and require a name change - make a new character or suffer the consequences. If you want to buy an alt, don't buy one with a stupid name if you don't think you can handle it later.
NOT SIGNED
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Goose99
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Posted - 2010.08.19 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz Only if it leaves a permanent link in the characters bio about how the character was formerly called. Without that, it would be a much too easy way to avoid consequence.
Spies/scammers have been getting the exact same results, and avoiding consequences, by selling and buying a new char. The only difference here is that no 3rd party gets dragged into it.
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Brother Philbert
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Posted - 2010.08.20 13:22:00 -
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Mecha Polcha
Cause of Crisis
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Posted - 2010.08.20 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz Only if it leaves a permanent link in the characters bio about how the character was formerly called. Without that, it would be a much too easy way to avoid consequence.
Seconded - Eve is all about consequences... there seems to be a whole industry of scammers trying to avoid them... why make it easier for them? Also, if you can't live with your own invention then put your misnamed toon in the character bazarr and get another one. Most people will decide their toon's name is awful long before they have too many skills to scrap and make another one anyway.
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Goremageddon Box
Guerilla Gorilla
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Posted - 2010.08.24 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz Only if it leaves a permanent link in the characters bio about how the character was formerly called. Without that, it would be a much too easy way to avoid consequence.
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Dierdra Vaal
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Posted - 2010.08.24 12:00:00 -
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It is already very easy to hide behind alts. Let's not make it even easier to avoid consequences.
* * * Director of Education :: EVE University * * * CSM1 delegate, CSM3 chairman and CSM5 vice-chairman
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paritybit
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2010.08.24 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Dierdra Vaal It is already very easy to hide behind alts. Let's not make it even easier to avoid consequences.
There are no consequences. Scammers don't undock. Scamees don't bother to check names. Corp thieves don't do it with their mains.
The bottom line is anybody who does these things with their main character does not care to change their name. Anybody who does this with an alt does not need to change their name.\
As long as there is a link to previous names, there is no reason not to support this.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.08.24 22:15:00 -
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As long as there is a name history located in the characters show info I really don't see the problem with this. Also I would charge a PLEX to change a name and a free name change if the character is sold.
Originally by: Dierdra Vaal It is already very easy to hide behind alts. Let's not make it even easier to avoid consequences.
Try reading the thread first before posting.
There already is no consequences for these people so what exactly would change? Currently people either just sell their character or delete it and if character name changes are traceable and costly I don't see how it would change anything.
The point of this proposal is to allow people who bought a character or named their character someone real bad at the start a one-time chance to do it again. If all the loopholes for scammers are cut out via a character name history then what is the problem? - It's not "Play through a pre-set story, become stronger, do endgame". Gameplay is open ended, and you make your own story. Unless you're too afraid of 'pvp grief' to do anything relevant |
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Buz Kilington
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Posted - 2010.10.20 16:50:00 -
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I would love to swap names! I want this name on my main alt.
Besides, in rl, you can change your name any time you want to try to escape. Maybe if you change your name, there is still a way to track the old name to the new name? Come up with unique id numbers for each character, like a Social Insurance Number or Driver's License Number. It'd be pretty easy, it's just a randomly generated number, to each character.
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hjgjgfgfgsj
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Posted - 2010.10.27 15:57:00 -
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Definately supported.
Look at my name....
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Green-Core The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.10.27 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: hjgjgfgfgsj Definately supported.
Look at my name....
Next time don't put your cat on the keyboard when you get to that part of the process. --Vel
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Cathleia
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Posted - 2010.10.27 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz Only if it leaves a permanent link in the characters bio about how the character was formerly called. Without that, it would be a much too easy way to avoid consequence.
While at it, make it also show whether the character has been traded or not.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Green-Core The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.10.27 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Cathleia
Originally by: Sokratesz Only if it leaves a permanent link in the characters bio about how the character was formerly called. Without that, it would be a much too easy way to avoid consequence.
While at it, make it also show whether the character has been traded or not.
I think this should be a seperate proposal tbh, and I would support it in a heartbeat. Maybe a trade history tab on the character that lists all the dates that character has changed accounts (you don't even need to show me the from or to - I really don't care. Just give me a list of dates.) --Vel
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Cathleia
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Posted - 2010.10.27 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: De'Veldrin
Originally by: Cathleia
Originally by: Sokratesz Only if it leaves a permanent link in the characters bio about how the character was formerly called. Without that, it would be a much too easy way to avoid consequence.
While at it, make it also show whether the character has been traded or not.
I think this should be a seperate proposal tbh, and I would support it in a heartbeat. Maybe a trade history tab on the character that lists all the dates that character has changed accounts (you don't even need to show me the from or to - I really don't care. Just give me a list of dates.)
You make it then. :x
I don't really know how the character trade works along with how people get their intel, looking for when joining a specific corp (which is the reason this popped into my head). I only know that scammers could use it to 'repair' their reputation if they have money too much. :/
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Aamrr
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Posted - 2010.10.27 23:55:00 -
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Name change documentation is SO hard to fill out...
Surely they've expedited the process since the DMV came along?
SUPPORTED.
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