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Dopekitten
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Posted - 2010.08.07 06:10:00 -
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I believe the issue lies in the Orphange's inability to be flexible. Specifically with their tax rate.
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CyberRaver
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
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Posted - 2010.08.07 07:39:00 -
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Ill have you know we are VERY flexible! (there is SO many ways to bend people over in empire)
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Jahkari
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Posted - 2010.08.07 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: CyberRaver Ill have you know we are VERY flexible!
Had your girl over last night. She's VERY FLEXIBLE as well.
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Nathan Jameson
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Posted - 2010.08.07 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Jahkari Had your girl over last night. She's VERY FLEXIBLE as well.
You leave my mom out of this!
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CyberRaver
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
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Posted - 2010.08.07 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jahkari
Originally by: CyberRaver Ill have you know we are VERY flexible!
Had your girl over last night. She's VERY FLEXIBLE as well.
Ah it was you, she thought felt a small prick and thought it was just a mosquito bite...
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Petrov Kreigt
Caldari Project Nemesis The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2010.10.04 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: CyberRaver
Originally by: Jahkari
Originally by: CyberRaver Ill have you know we are VERY flexible!
Had your girl over last night. She's VERY FLEXIBLE as well.
Ah it was you, she thought felt a small prick and thought it was just a mosquito bite...
then it was my turn... that'd explain why she couldnt walk when you mentioned it on TS
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Mickey Simon
TEMPLAR.
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Posted - 2010.10.04 10:30:00 -
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Of course the 0rphanage is horrible. All they do is station camp and run pipes in hisec while ganking lone targets. It's pretty hard to be good at PvP when your biggest target is the guy who just undocked his dramiel into your Vigilant and your 4 pals sitting right on the Dodixie M20 undock.
It's the same way that Noir. is horrible at anything other then uncloaking and ganking people.
The same way REPO was bad at anything other then jumping in and ganking mission runners.
The same way certain 0.0 power blocs are bad at anything other then getting a gang of 50 together to hunt 10 people in T1 cruisers.
Every pilot, every corporation, every alliance in this game has a way of playing EVE. To me, alot of them are absolutely horrible at this game because they can't engage in even PvP and dont have a chance 1 on 1. However, one of the cool things about EVE is for the most part, you can play it however you want.
While the 0rphanage might not be good at actual PvP, what they are good at is beating the absolute **** of any wartarget unlucky enough to be in the 5 places that they actually are.
Sure, I don't respect it or think it's worthy of praise, but just because you don't agree with what they do doesn't mean they're bad at what they do.
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Dark Pony
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Posted - 2010.10.04 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mickey Simon Of course the 0rphanage is horrible. All they do is station camp and run pipes in hisec while ganking lone targets. It's pretty hard to be good at PvP when your biggest target is the guy who just undocked his dramiel into your Vigilant and your 4 pals sitting right on the Dodixie M20 undock.
It's the same way that Noir. is horrible at anything other then uncloaking and ganking people.
The same way REPO was bad at anything other then jumping in and ganking mission runners.
The same way certain 0.0 power blocs are bad at anything other then getting a gang of 50 together to hunt 10 people in T1 cruisers.
Every pilot, every corporation, every alliance in this game has a way of playing EVE. To me, alot of them are absolutely horrible at this game because they can't engage in even PvP and dont have a chance 1 on 1. However, one of the cool things about EVE is for the most part, you can play it however you want.
While the 0rphanage might not be good at actual PvP, what they are good at is beating the absolute **** of any wartarget unlucky enough to be in the 5 places that they actually are.
Sure, I don't respect it or think it's worthy of praise, but just because you don't agree with what they do doesn't mean they're bad at what they do.
The criticism might has to do with Orph having around 10 decs simultaneously; with so many targets of opportunity it is a good tactic to just sit on busy gates I suppose. Problem is that you won't get any smart and careful targets with that. We had the pleasure of being decced by them last week and they didn't get any kills on us because we were careful not to engage them on their terms and because they didn't give us much personal attention until the last few days.
If you scout, it is easy to avoid them. Chances are that they are not actively searching you and your members out due to having so many wardecs anyway. If one is camping you at a station, check nearby systems on an alt and you'll quickly find his 2-5 backup crew.
They have a good 'divide and conquer' tactic though, with players spread out over an area but closeby enough to assist each other when needed. Even if they didn't get kills on us they did managed to keep us from hunting our own wt's more freely which was annoying so I guess their contract was worth it. Official Helmet Polisher |
Marko Riva
Adamant Inc
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Posted - 2010.10.04 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Pony The criticism might have to do with Orph having around 10 decs simultaneously
Our little corp got decced by Snatch a while back, me being completely clueless I had to do a check on them and found that we should be careful a bit so I instructed my newbies to not be stupid and to pay attention, more than normal.
Luckily for us they had 4-5 other decs going and us NOT being in the jita-Amarr pipe much and being a very small, slippery target (as opposed to the constant big kills they got every day) means they didn't bother much with us.
Only real encounter was me in a Rifter vs a Rook and later on a harb and some other stuff and them trying to kill me on the gate while I kept jumping back and forth. I guess they figured out we were too small and not stupid enough to get killed easily so they buggered off.
So I guess if you want a merc to actually pay attention and put in effort you need to make sure that they don't have a ton of decs going already.
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Riho
Gallente i Care.
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Posted - 2010.10.04 12:27:00 -
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I was in the 0rphans for a while and finally quit last week.
this is my experiance with them:
They are very good at camping targets a hubs and shutting the target traffic dwn in those places. that means the enemy suffers quite a bit and not only couse they lose ships, they loose tradea dn other stuff that they cant move (if they dont use neutral alts to move stuff).
0rphans have most pipes covered too and quite a few side roads to catch ppl :)
why did i leave them? i HATE camping stations, camping gates and such. ir like to roam and look for my targets. because quite alot of the targets where big 0.0 alliances most of their members stayed out or blobbed the f** up :D i didnt get much of acctual pvp.
0rphans do have quite a few very good FCs and if needed they can whoop ass quite well. iv seen a few fights with 0rphans having lot less nrs than the enemy and in one case even out classed by ships(0rphans cruiser/bc recons, enemy mostly BS and few cruisers) and won.
but yeah... most the "action" is camping jita or other hubs and they are very good at doing that.
PS: Snatch was a good target :) even tho i only engaged them 2 times... both times hugging a station with my zealot.... had no backup and they had 5 or so... meh :P ---------------------------------- Fighting for something
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ForU2nV
Assisted Genocide
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Posted - 2010.10.04 12:53:00 -
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Confirming that the orphanage has little skill. (great with out of alliance rr's tho :) Yet to kill one of my Pirate BS *****es, tho not for lack of trying (and failing), but we may one day get another go at it :)
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Tofus
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Posted - 2010.10.04 13:29:00 -
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Edited by: Tofus on 04/10/2010 13:31:19 When we were dec'd by Snatch we were handing them their asses (those that had the balls to show up, that is) as well, and we were only 1/5th their size.
By the logic of the OP, this must surely make us a bunch of high-quality supercool ultra pvp'ers! Ha!
Or maybe it just doesn't say anything...
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Seruiel
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2010.10.04 13:48:00 -
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@ the OP..
It is interesting to observe how intelligence is reverse proportional to the size of the mouth.
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Pi'Ell
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Posted - 2010.10.04 16:12:00 -
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I'd be interested to know how much money The Orphanage actually make out of these wardecs? I know it costs a lot to dec multiple alliances, but looking at your killboards it seems like you get a lot of tasty loot out of it.
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CyberRaver
Project Nemesis
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Posted - 2010.10.04 19:01:00 -
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It comes in swings and roundabouts
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Chiarman Koji
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.10.04 23:30:00 -
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Edited by: Chiarman Koji on 04/10/2010 23:31:43 In west Perimeter born and raised On the Jita Gate was where I spent most of my days Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool And whoring on some GCC about to jump through When I saw Rico Felix Who was up to no good Startin making trouble in my neighborhood I got in on that kill and Rico got scared He said I'm editing you out of this killmail mon frere.
I pulled up to the station at about seven or eight And I yelled into local 'Yo homes smell ya later' I looked to my kingdom And knew I don't care To sit on my throne as the Prince of Bel Air
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