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Laboratory Specimen
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Posted - 2010.07.25 07:42:00 -
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Edited by: Laboratory Specimen on 25/07/2010 07:44:02 Haven't seen anything announced about this, was just browsing Amazon and found this... Amazon Linky
A few other sites have it listed as well. Anyone know what's up?
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.07.25 09:07:00 -
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Nope, apparently it'll be out in September, so that's just between normal expansions. Quite an interesting find tbh.
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Vak'ran
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Posted - 2010.07.25 15:33:00 -
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fall expansion with further PI options to link to dust?
Vak'Ran is your local official non-dedicated part-time advocate of reading comprehension and proliferation of intelligence on the EVE Online Forum |
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CCP Zinfandel

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Posted - 2010.07.25 15:53:00 -
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Yes, we are working on a new boxed edition to replace the old Atari Special Edition which has been discontinued. If you still want one of the limited edition Interbus Shuttles, you should run out and grab one of the last copies of the special edition if you can find one. Best Buy and GameStop have a few in North America. Not sure where your best bet might be in Europe or elsewhere, but I'd start with online merchants.
We have begun talking to retail buyers and some are proactively setting it up in their computer systems before they get all the information, as you can see. They official launch date will be decided this week so any launch dates you see today are preliminary. The variable has nothing to do with game development and everything to do with channel programs - but that is a layer of insider detail that won't mean anything to most consumers.
We will do a dev blog on this soon but let me just warn you of one very significant change that only means something to our long term players. While the last edition could be used either to start a new account or to add time to an existing account, there was a lot of confusion and many petitions about this. The new edition will only be able to make new accounts or confirm a trial account which has never been a paying account.
Looking forward to telling you more, Zin
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.25 17:52:00 -
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Estamel's Modified Shuttle included in the new retail? c/d 
And thanks, looking forward to grabbing yet another retail box for my collection
/c
Win a Freki for 10M |
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whispous
Gallente NibbleTek RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.07.25 18:03:00 -
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I'm disappointed that you are not including a standard ETC with this, as I'd like to buy nice looking eve boxes to have on my shelf, but want it to actually do something for me at the same time.
But I guess details are thin right now so I'll hold that opinion back untill we know for sure what we can get out of this.
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Diabolick
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Posted - 2010.07.25 18:26:00 -
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A boxed set for brand new accounts only huh?
I smell shenanigans and predict it having some way for the "new" player to catch up to other older players in a quicker fashion. Perhaps even with the cerebral accelerator that is being worked on in sisi.
Again with the trying to grab new players without looking after your older ones.
This ofc could be complete horse**** and just me being bitter.
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Dirk Mortice
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Posted - 2010.07.25 20:41:00 -
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magiccrystalball.jpg
I don't have it on this machine, maybe CCP can supply
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.07.25 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zinfandel Yes, we are working on a new boxed edition to replace the old Atari Special Edition which has been discontinued. If you still want one of the limited edition Interbus Shuttles, you should run out and grab one of the last copies of the special edition if you can find one. Best Buy and GameStop have a few in North America. Not sure where your best bet might be in Europe or elsewhere, but I'd start with online merchants.
We have begun talking to retail buyers and some are proactively setting it up in their computer systems before they get all the information, as you can see. They official launch date will be decided this week so any launch dates you see today are preliminary. The variable has nothing to do with game development and everything to do with channel programs - but that is a layer of insider detail that won't mean anything to most consumers.
We will do a dev blog on this soon but let me just warn you of one very significant change that only means something to our long term players. While the last edition could be used either to start a new account or to add time to an existing account, there was a lot of confusion and many petitions about this. The new edition will only be able to make new accounts or confirm a trial account which has never been a paying account.
Looking forward to telling you more, Zin
Tell me this does not have anything to do with that Implant for newbies under 30 days that gives them a bonus to all attributes, and weapon systems, that has been seen on Sisi in peoples mystic balls. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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X1994
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.07.26 01:47:00 -
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Magic Crystal ball activated.
I guess learning skills will finally be removed and everyone who trained them will get the SP back.
Magic Crystal ball deactivated.
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Evelgrivion
Ignatium.
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Posted - 2010.07.26 01:56:00 -
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Rated M for Mature? 
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Messoroz
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Posted - 2010.07.26 02:47:00 -
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Edited by: Messoroz on 26/07/2010 02:48:47 I doubt the box editions will sell as much since they cannot be used to add more game time now.
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Xrak
Pat Sharp's Potato Rodeo Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.26 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zinfandel
We will do a dev blog on this soon but let me just warn you of one very significant change that only means something to our long term players. While the last edition could be used either to start a new account or to add time to an existing account, there was a lot of confusion and many petitions about this. The new edition will only be able to make new accounts or confirm a trial account which has never been a paying account.
Serious fail on CCP behalf imo, make perfect business sense of course.
Every box that sells CCP only get a cut, so if current subscribers could buy it and use the ETC for current account CCP is getting less revenue than if they just carry on with a subscription or buy a ETC. Also perhaps CCP are hoping that it will encourage current subscribers who want to buy the pretty box to start a new account. Not to mention when the retail editions start getting discounted and people buy up the boxes just to add time to their accounts CCP loses out, although I wouldn't have thought that would be a major issue?
The only reason for the confusion was lack of clear documentation, making it very obvious that the box contained an ETC that could be used to extend the time on active accounts.
I am a bit disappointed in CCP's decision on this.
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Magnus Orin
Minmatar United Systems Navy Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.26 04:50:00 -
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Lame that you cannot use it to add time to an account.
I'd love to have another box to go next to my Atari Eve box and all my other Eve paraphernalia. Sarcasm - Because i'm too far away to strangle you. |

Laboratory Specimen
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Posted - 2010.07.26 04:59:00 -
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Zomg Chribba and CCP Zin posted in my thread.
Score!
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2010.07.26 05:20:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero Tell me this does not have anything to do with that Implant for newbies under 30 days that gives them a bonus to all attributes, and weapon systems, that has been seen on Sisi in peoples mystic balls.
/me looks at name of Box again... I'll take the bet that it does have something to do with it. 
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.07.26 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Gariuys
Originally by: Blane Xero Tell me this does not have anything to do with that Implant for newbies under 30 days that gives them a bonus to all attributes, and weapon systems, that has been seen on Sisi in peoples mystic balls.
/me looks at name of Box again... I'll take the bet that it does have something to do with it. 
Calling it now CCP. You're on a downward spiral here; you've already made eve more tolerable to newbies than ever before, don't start hand-holding now. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Velocity Prime
Misfit Toys
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Posted - 2010.07.26 18:54:00 -
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Thanks CCP for making the decision to not buy another box easy for me. 
Screw your long-time customers AND lose out on revenue? AWESOME!
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Freyya
Advanced Planetary Exports Intergalactic Exports Group
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Posted - 2010.07.26 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zinfandel
We will do a dev blog on this soon but let me just warn you of one very significant change that only means something to our long term players. While the last edition could be used either to start a new account or to add time to an existing account, there was a lot of confusion and many petitions about this. The new edition will only be able to make new accounts or confirm a trial account which has never been a paying account.
Looking forward to telling you more, Zin
BULLSH*T! You're just pulling our legs arn't you. SRSLY, grow up... If this is serious then i say FU, FU again and tripple. The bullsh*t in your marketing engine source code is weak. There is no reason a GTC would not be able to be added to a paying or new account other than pure bullsh*t and ignorance. Timecodes are universal unless they get specifically blocked with a special designed module that can tell if they're being used for new accounts only or also paying ones.
There is no f*cking reason to do this other than pure $$$ since retail versions tend to get stuck in the stores for too long and they get discounted after a while to clear space. Because of that you'd obviously lose money since a GTC with the CD would go for 15$ instead of 35$ on early retail. As usual it's all about the money and just as much as sticking it up to your long term players. There was alot of confusion about adding it to paying and new accounts my f*cking ass. One simple solution to prevent petitions and such which is to add a line on the card itself stating : APPLICABLE TO NEW AND EXISTING ACCOUNTS and you're set but nooooo...Then i guess i must assume the people responsible for the creating and printing of the retail boxes and such are to f*cking ******ed to be able to think of that themselves? Looking forward to you getting shafted by shafting your existing player base over and over again. Glad I managed to secure 16 retail copies on sale for 8 euro's each.
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NOW COLLECTING ISD AND CCP AUTOGRAPHS It'll be worth something someday. -Rauth
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Zions Child
Caldari Carthage Industries Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.26 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Freyya
BULLSH*T! You're just pulling our legs arn't you. SRSLY, grow up... If this is serious then i say FU, FU again and tripple. The bullsh*t in your marketing engine source code is weak. There is no reason a GTC would not be able to be added to a paying or new account other than pure bullsh*t and ignorance. Timecodes are universal unless they get specifically blocked with a special designed module that can tell if they're being used for new accounts only or also paying ones.
There is no f*cking reason to do this other than pure $$$ since retail versions tend to get stuck in the stores for too long and they get discounted after a while to clear space. Because of that you'd obviously lose money since a GTC with the CD would go for 15$ instead of 35$ on early retail. As usual it's all about the money and just as much as sticking it up to your long term players. There was alot of confusion about adding it to paying and new accounts my f*cking ass. One simple solution to prevent petitions and such which is to add a line on the card itself stating : APPLICABLE TO NEW AND EXISTING ACCOUNTS and you're set but nooooo...Then i guess i must assume the people responsible for the creating and printing of the retail boxes and such are to f*cking ******ed to be able to think of that themselves? Looking forward to you getting shafted by shafting your existing player base over and over again. Glad I managed to secure 16 retail copies on sale for 8 euro's each.
Attention! Idiot alert!
First: CCP doesn't lose a dime when a game store marks their game as discount, the game store does. Game stores buy in bulk, and direct from the supplier, not on a per unit base, genius.
Second: Yes, they want to prevent those of you who can get the copies cheap from getting large quantities of time for considerably less money than most of the rest of us who do not have access to said cheap copies.
Third: You'd be surprised how stupid your average consumer is.
Fourth: Edit your post, and make it readable. That, or stop posting.
Originally by: CCP Shadow *snip* Castration successful. Shadow.
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Lee Anderson
Caldari The Hell's Angels
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Posted - 2010.07.27 04:10:00 -
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Originally by: Zions Child
Originally by: Freyya
BULLSH*T! You're just pulling our legs arn't you. SRSLY, grow up... If this is serious then i say FU, FU again and tripple. The bullsh*t in your marketing engine source code is weak. There is no reason a GTC would not be able to be added to a paying or new account other than pure bullsh*t and ignorance. Timecodes are universal unless they get specifically blocked with a special designed module that can tell if they're being used for new accounts only or also paying ones.
There is no f*cking reason to do this other than pure $$$ since retail versions tend to get stuck in the stores for too long and they get discounted after a while to clear space. Because of that you'd obviously lose money since a GTC with the CD would go for 15$ instead of 35$ on early retail. As usual it's all about the money and just as much as sticking it up to your long term players. There was alot of confusion about adding it to paying and new accounts my f*cking ass. One simple solution to prevent petitions and such which is to add a line on the card itself stating : APPLICABLE TO NEW AND EXISTING ACCOUNTS and you're set but nooooo...Then i guess i must assume the people responsible for the creating and printing of the retail boxes and such are to f*cking ******ed to be able to think of that themselves? Looking forward to you getting shafted by shafting your existing player base over and over again. Glad I managed to secure 16 retail copies on sale for 8 euro's each.
Attention! Idiot alert!
First: CCP doesn't lose a dime when a game store marks their game as discount, the game store does. Game stores buy in bulk, and direct from the supplier, not on a per unit base, genius.
Second: Yes, they want to prevent those of you who can get the copies cheap from getting large quantities of time for considerably less money than most of the rest of us who do not have access to said cheap copies.
Third: You'd be surprised how stupid your average consumer is.
Fourth: Edit your post, and make it readable. That, or stop posting.
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2010.07.27 05:13:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zinfandel
We will do a dev blog on this soon but let me just warn you of one very significant change that only means something to our long term players. While the last edition could be used either to start a new account or to add time to an existing account, there was a lot of confusion and many petitions about this. The new edition will only be able to make new accounts or confirm a trial account which has never been a paying account.
Surprise surprise.
CCP round the water cooler:
"CCP - we reward loyalty with....
oh that was funny.... your right Ted! I can't say it without bursting out laughing.
Hey, I got another good one, you hear those idiots playing in 0.0 are still trying to have fleet fights. lol they just don't get it, but they keep paying for subs! god bless the rich and stupid, right?" -CCP <insert hip name here>
--- Players are losing faith and loyalty in CCP due previous expansions not living up to player expectations. The CSM and CCP agreed that expectation management can be improved |

Widemouth Deepthroat
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Posted - 2010.07.27 08:24:00 -
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Honestly if some long time eve nerd who already has the game + 5 accounts was going to buy the boxed set to **** over some crappy shiny I seriously doubt they will care whether they can add the gtc to an existing account; the gtc will just be saved for when they roll their next alt.
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Winters Chill
Amarr Shadow Legion.
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Posted - 2010.07.27 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Widemouth Deepthroat Honestly if some long time eve nerd who already has the game + 5 accounts was going to buy the boxed set to **** over some crappy shiny I seriously doubt they will care whether they can add the gtc to an existing account; the gtc will just be saved for when they roll their next alt.
Exactly, I welcome anything the increases the amount of new players and gives them the perception of a fighting chance.
You would have to a particularly lonely character to get all ragey over giving new players a better deal for playing eve.
See it as an opportunity...
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Aunt margret
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Posted - 2010.07.27 16:32:00 -
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A skill point bundle included id imagine.
To be honest i thought the skill point thing would be related to some sort of free to play model, buying in along the way, with skill training going at say 1/3 of the rate.
But with the new box, new player atraction, id imagine you'd include a jump start to new players.
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KaemosFZ
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.07.28 18:04:00 -
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Edited by: KaemosFZ on 28/07/2010 18:05:38 Edited by: KaemosFZ on 28/07/2010 18:05:13
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel "If you still want one of the limited edition Interbus Shuttles, you should run out and grab one of the last copies of the special edition if you can find one. Best Buy and GameStop have a few in North America. Not sure where your best bet might be in Europe or elsewhere, but I'd start with online merchants."
I actually called around to find out about the fate of the last few retail kept atari edition boxes. In the western hemisphere there is one... in Bayam=n, Puerto Rico. Damn =/ |

Ninetails o'Cat
League of Super Evil
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Posted - 2010.07.28 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zinfandel We will do a dev blog on this soon but let me just warn you of one very significant change that only means something to our long term players. While the last edition could be used either to start a new account or to add time to an existing account, there was a lot of confusion and many petitions about this. The new edition will only be able to make new accounts or confirm a trial account which has never been a paying account.
Looking forward to telling you more, Zin
What about if you make a buddy account and then put the game time on that?
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Stitcher
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2010.07.28 23:20:00 -
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Could we maybe just have, like, one day where the only people who post anything at all are optimistic, cheerful sorts who actually like the game and have nothing negative to say about CCP? This constant negativity and misanthropy is getting to me. -
- Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
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Freyya
Advanced Planetary Exports Intergalactic Exports Group
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Posted - 2010.07.29 13:19:00 -
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Edited by: Freyya on 29/07/2010 13:25:14
Originally by: Zions Child
Originally by: Freyya
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Attention! Idiot alert!
First: CCP doesn't lose a dime when a game store marks their game as discount, the game store does. Game stores buy in bulk, and direct from the supplier, not on a per unit base, genius.
Second: Yes, they want to prevent those of you who can get the copies cheap from getting large quantities of time for considerably less money than most of the rest of us who do not have access to said cheap copies.
Third: You'd be surprised how stupid your average consumer is.
Fourth: Edit your post, and make it readable. That, or stop posting.
Well to be quite honest I was just ranting a bit, trying to see if you really get a rush from it like all the cool people say. I can say I don't...
2nd; I didn't buy 16 for 8 euro's each. That was a blatant lie I admit. It was only one copy for 16 euro's or something.
3rd; A mate of mine works at a game/music store and they arn't losing any money even if they sold it for 5 bucks.
Lastly, I fully understand how stupid the average consumer is. I was just having high hopes of this consumer base. And there's no need to edit my previous post since you could read it well enough to type a reply that covers all the points. You even got the part where I was acting like an idiot...
Still I find the not apllicable to existing accounts complete and utter b.s. and the petition excuse the worst I have ever heard. I just based my rant around that...
Edit; It's quite weird that the boxed set goes for about just as much as a GTC does isn't it? Sure CCP can afford to lose a little on GTC's included in boxed sets but you can't seriously expect CCP to sell bulk for 5 euro/dollar a box now do you? Besides, the shop my mate workes for has sold about 150 copies throughout the country of the aprox. 500 they had ordered at supply. ___________
NOW COLLECTING ISD AND CCP AUTOGRAPHS It'll be worth something someday. -Rauth
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Doctor Arcane
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Posted - 2010.09.12 05:02:00 -
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Box art spotted!
Attention Walmart Shoppers!!! You can now overpay for your EVE subscription by $4.82 and lose out on 21 days of free play time by buying this box! Yes, you get 30 days free game time, but if you had half a brain you will know that you get the skilltraining "boost" naturally at the start. Any one of 50,000 players would be glad to give you a 21 day key, because if you pay up, they get a free month.
As a consolation price you get the blinky ship that will be reprocessed because it is crap and maybe...maybe...you might find a use for the maps that you can get online for free.
Clean up aisle 5, please, looks like someone is vomiting...
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