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Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2010.07.25 16:21:00 -
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Regional battleship prices, capital parts, and most large ships are now selling above Jita mineral sell price. I have not seen such a good battleship market in a long time. Is this a good metric to determine that the mineral market is recovering (prices going up)? Or is this just an indication of possible inflation?
This is in contrast to views that the mineral market is doom.
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Aurum Bellator
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Posted - 2010.07.25 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Block Ukx
Is this a good metric to determine that the mineral market is recovering (prices going up)? Or is this just an indication of possible inflation?
I am not sure I understand the distinction, see:
Originally by: Financial Dictionary
Inflation. The rate at which the general level of prices for goods and services is rising, and, subsequently, purchasing power is falling.
If you mean a growing scarcity of battleships and thus inflation in that particular market, then possibly; or could be some manipulation going on. By what I've seen of the Eve market forces, the latter is the most likely answer.
AUB
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Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2010.07.26 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Aurum Bellator I am not sure I understand the distinction...
Inflation would refer to the global market rather than just the mineral market. I keep a mineral index where prices appear to be going up, but I do not track general trends of the global market. However, I noticed that battleship prices are above mineral sell prices which is very unusual. Thus I wonder if this apparently mineral market recovering could suggest signs of inflation.
I don't beleive there is any manipulation going on.
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Molic Blackbird
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Posted - 2010.07.26 01:26:00 -
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Battleship prices being above build cost of mineral sell prices is the norm. Battleship prices at or below mineral sell prices is unusual.
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Lecherito
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Posted - 2010.07.26 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: Molic Blackbird Battleship prices being above build cost of mineral sell prices is the norm. Battleship prices at or below mineral sell prices is unusual.
Except, for like, the 12 months prior to the most recent patch?
Regards,
-L
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.07.26 07:06:00 -
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Block,
being in vacation I cannot check prices in game but I may give you some ideas to rummage about.
What's the minerals price action? Because you did not specify this important factor. If minerals are dropping, being summer it means the game slowed down (including production and most of all, buys) and thus ships / comps are just lagging behind. This is even truer if you confirm your "regional" (ie easy to lag).
If minerals are stable or rising, again, it's summer and therefore there's less builders around and in any case lower traded volume and this often (even if it's not a direct cause) means larger spreads.
The above sybilline statements are to be read as: wait till summer is about to end and people are back, and THEN try and analyze a market that is not dormant. - Auditing & consulting
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Tekota
legion industries ltd Veni Vidi Vici Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.26 18:25:00 -
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For a long while I maintained 10 T1 lines, some battleships, some BCs, some others. Battleships were always a tight margin but so long as I could get 10+ mill per line on top of Jita mineral sell order prices and after tax and fees I was happy.
With sliding mineral prices however full scale industrial production was risky - buying five days worth of minerals to keep 10 lines busy is risky as five days later those mins are likely to be worth considerably less and hence the margin on top of your end product is slimmer or even negative. As such I, and I suspect many others, simply quit a lot of T1 and did other things, moving back to do short 1 or 2 day runs from time to time. At the same time, IER producers also stopped for obvious reasons - perhaps some of their stock wasn't immediately getting blown up but was hitting the market when IER was profitable.
Suspect what's happened is that real use demand has stayed roughly the same - IER demand was almost exactly mirrored by IER production - but real use supply has dwindled a little as folks don't want to sit on five days of minerals if minerals are falling. However, as seen with the recent betting thread, mineral values are either stabilising or (more likely) not falling as fast or linearly as initial post patch. Therefore - bit of stability allowing for profitable BS prod coupled with slightly diminished supplier base as suppliers are wary of falling mineral market = dare I say it... profits? (sshhh)
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