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Thawed Corpse
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Posted - 2010.08.09 05:40:00 -
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I hate to admit it, but I probably started the Oxygen craze by getting in bidding war with someone else last night. Unfortunately, I've been busy last 24 hours, and in that time the price rose another 10%.
I really hate those fluctuations.
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Bosswoman
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Posted - 2010.08.09 06:05:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab Edited by: Rakshasa Taisab on 09/08/2010 05:22:36
Originally by: VURDAH someone bought more than 15 Millions of oxygen for very good price
Checking in!
:nom: :nom: :nom:
Originally by: VURDAH i think for no more than 2 weeks [last remain stockpiles of oxygen] producers P0-P1 will be producing oxygen
...Well smart producers of Coolant are buying water and if they are extracting, they are extracting only electrolytes i will be watching water market
What most perhaps don't realize is that oxygen shares two planet types with electrolytes (last being super-rare ice planets), and as such people will have the choice between either making electrolytes, oxygen or finding another gas/storm planet.
Which means oxygen and electrolytes are in direct competition for PI resources. I was rather surprised at how low oxygen was still selling at so I bought up everything I could at the moment, hoping no one would notice for a few days.
Have fun when you lose your shirt.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.08.09 07:00:00 -
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Originally by: Thawed Corpse I hate to admit it, but I probably started the Oxygen craze by getting in bidding war with someone else last night. Unfortunately, I've been busy last 24 hours, and in that time the price rose another 10%.
I really hate those fluctuations.
There was no significant rise in price before I came along. Actually the month long lack of spikes in trade volumes really surprised me considering use and production characteristics of oxygen.
Ripe for investment.
Originally by: Bosswoman Have fun when you lose your shirt.
Ah, yes... Wise words from random pirate made me realize I've already lost and will now thrash my NPC PI stockpile and traded PI goods. I am after all bankrupt already.
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Bosswoman
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Posted - 2010.08.09 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab Edited by: Rakshasa Taisab on 09/08/2010 07:07:27
Originally by: Thawed Corpse I hate to admit it, but I probably started the Oxygen craze by getting in bidding war with someone else last night. Unfortunately, I've been busy last 24 hours, and in that time the price rose another 10%.
I really hate those fluctuations.
There was no significant rise in price before I came along. Actually the month long lack of spikes in trade volumes really surprised me considering use and production characteristics of oxygen.
Ripe for investment.
Originally by: Bosswoman Have fun when you lose your shirt.
Ah, yes... Wise words from random pirate made me realize I've already lost and will now thrash my NPC PI stockpile and traded PI goods. I am after all bankrupt already.
I realize the price might fall again below 300 isk per unit if people with more oxygen than brains decide to dump again at old prices, which only means I'll buy that up too. Yet those are of limited size and prices will readjust once consumption works itself through them.
You bought *on a spike* and are now gambling that prices rise; doubtful.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.08.09 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Bosswoman You bought *on a spike* and are now gambling that prices rise; doubtful.
You must be holding your computer upside-down. Easy mistake to make for someone who can't read letters.
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Major Stardust
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Posted - 2010.08.09 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: Bosswoman You bought *on a spike* and are now gambling that prices rise; doubtful.
You must be holding your computer upside-down. Easy mistake to make for someone who can't read letters.
Actually that is very stupid reply, Bosswoman writing here proved that can read letters. Dunno about computer upside-down though...
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Bosswoman
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Posted - 2010.08.09 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: Bosswoman You bought *on a spike* and are now gambling that prices rise; doubtful.
You must be holding your computer upside-down. Easy mistake to make for someone who can't read letters.
Price is already crashing, you might want to (quickly) invest in a belt so you can keep your shorts too.
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Veni Ra
Amarr Brotherhood Of Cash
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Posted - 2010.08.10 04:29:00 -
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I cant believe that people are still talking about coolant. Its old news, the new thing are construction blocks (of which I have a sizable amount). They have finally started moving up and were at around 4.5k p\u last time i checked.
So dump your coolant as fast as possible because its obviously no longer the best place to keep your isk :D
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.08.10 05:51:00 -
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Originally by: Veni Ra I cant believe that people are still talking about coolant. Its old news, the new thing are construction blocks (of which I have a sizable amount). They have finally started moving up and were at around 4.5k p\u last time i checked.
So dump your coolant as fast as possible because its obviously no longer the best place to keep your isk :D
When pimping something at least try to connect it to current events in some way.
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente Staner Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.10 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: Veni Ra I cant believe that people are still talking about coolant. Its old news, the new thing are construction blocks (of which I have a sizable amount). They have finally started moving up and were at around 4.5k p\u last time i checked.
So dump your coolant as fast as possible because its obviously no longer the best place to keep your isk :D
When pimping something at least try to connect it to current events in some way.
The fundamental reason(s) that coolants (and Electrolytes) have spiked are two fold.
1) Individual POS supply stocks are starting to be exhausted. OK some stocked for a year, but the meme that markets can be volatile for three months post patch is/was also prevalent. We are starting to approach that. Only a foolish POS owner will want less than a months leeway, as we dig deeper into that last month's supply they will get more desperate.
2) As increasing numbers PI primary producers (we still need a good short hand for these) grow bored the supply will contract.
So there is a connection, those underlying reason(s) apply to several PI supplies. I'm not going to spell them out. #2 Also applies to a number of T2 items.
Finally there are two opposite pressures at work here. Increasing support costs for POS will contract the market for new towers and modules and some decommissioned towers will end up back on the market so we can expect high-end PI item demand to contract.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.08.10 09:29:00 -
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Originally by: Wyke Mossari The fundamental reason(s) that coolants (and Electrolytes) have spiked are two fold.
That has nothing to do with construction blocks beyond the general increase expected in all former NPC PI items.
I asked him why he thought construction blocks were a good investment, when there are some rather obvious candidates for faster rise in price.
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Casadien
Blood Works Inc. Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.08.10 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Cheque Please Back to you, Ollie, for the weather...
IT'S RAINING SIDEWAYS! Hattivatti |
Patri Andari
Caldari Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2010.08.10 10:40:00 -
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Originally by: Casadien
Originally by: Cheque Please Back to you, Ollie, for the weather...
IT'S RAINING SIDEWAYS!
I KNOW Ollie. You're no Ollie
Patri
I'll Roshambo You For That Titan! |
Bosswoman
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Posted - 2010.08.11 05:18:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: Wyke Mossari The fundamental reason(s) that coolants (and Electrolytes) have spiked are two fold.
That has nothing to do with construction blocks beyond the general increase expected in all former NPC PI items.
I asked him why he thought construction blocks were a good investment, when there are some rather obvious candidates for faster rise in price.
Yeah, like construction blocks for their T2 prod value (I think I'm recalling my spreadsheets correctly). Same can be said for mech parts for T2 stuff and the fact that they're dually important for POS fuel (robotics) and coolant, which is currently the cash cow. The question is, which one will spike next?
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Steve Celeste
Overdogs HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.11 07:25:00 -
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Originally by: Bosswoman which one will spike next?
They both are.
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Cheque Please
Hot Like Mexico
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Posted - 2010.08.11 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: Bosswoman
Same can be said for mech parts for T2 stuff and the fact that they're dually important for POS fuel (robotics) and coolant, which is currently the cash cow. The question is, which one will spike next?
Mech parts --> Precious Metals --> Reactive Metals --> Robotics slightly / Construction Blocks --> Enriched Uranium slightly / Toxic Metals --> Consumer Electronics once stockpiles are burnt --> ??????????????????????????????? --> Planetary Vehicles --- WORMHOLE SERVICE RL Meeting w/ Chribba
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente Staner Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.11 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: Wyke Mossari The fundamental reason(s) that coolants (and Electrolytes) have spiked are two fold.
That has nothing to do with construction blocks beyond the general increase expected in all former NPC PI items.
I asked him why he thought construction blocks were a good investment, when there are some rather obvious candidates for faster rise in price.
I wasn't going to spell it out, but since Cheque Please has already done so I will elaborate.
Construction blocks are made from Reactive & Toxic metals, which are also used to make POS supplies. Their price will rise, in fact it's already doing so.
In the same way, coolant pushed up the price of Electrolytes and impacted rocket fuel and synthetic oil. The increased demand, for the reasons I've already highlighted, will do the same to construction blocks and a few other things.
Anything made from the same raws as POS fuel, if there is a real demand from another source such as T2, will rise faster than the general rise attached to former NPC PI items.
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2010.08.11 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Cheque Please
Originally by: Bosswoman
Same can be said for mech parts for T2 stuff and the fact that they're dually important for POS fuel (robotics) and coolant, which is currently the cash cow. The question is, which one will spike next?
Mech parts --> Precious Metals --> Reactive Metals --> Robotics slightly / Construction Blocks --> Enriched Uranium slightly / Toxic Metals --> Consumer Electronics once stockpiles are burnt --> ??????????????????????????????? --> Planetary Vehicles
Planetary Vehicles will never be worth building since they drop from missions in the enough of quantities
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente Staner Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.12 10:52:00 -
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Looks like Toxic metals is the first to fall. A big stock raid has snatched the bulk of the supply in the major hubs during this morning forum patching.
Interesting it looks like only a tiny proportion has been re-listed so I'm thinking an Industrialist might be behind it rather than a trader/speculator.
The bad news (for me) is they beat me to it. The good news (for me anyway) is I've been accumulating it for a week. I think I'm going to let the shortage bite before relisting, however I am open to obscene offers :)
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Major Stardust
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Posted - 2010.08.28 00:24:00 -
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Bump. Ahahah hahaha
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Morfig
Caldari De Re Metallica
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Posted - 2010.08.28 04:45:00 -
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Originally by: Patri Andari
EDIT: Inserted Rodey King beatdown video for those to young to know.
Mu God, there ~are~ people who are too young to know that?!! I do feel old, and the years just sneak up... ;(
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Smelly Bait
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Posted - 2010.08.28 12:55:00 -
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Edited by: Smelly Bait on 28/08/2010 13:02:19 hehe, who said nobody bought in coolant before it got expensive,.... i have 221 mil of coolant stocked up.
Edit: my first market dump will be tomorrow at 15:00 ET, i will be dropping 50 mil coolant on the market in jita in 5 orders of 10 mil each. Mail me if u want to exentd this date vs a fee of 1 billion for each 3 days
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Scott Ryder
Amarr art of eve Gunmen of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2010.08.28 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Smelly Bait Edited by: Smelly Bait on 28/08/2010 13:02:19 hehe, who said nobody bought in coolant before it got expensive,.... i have 221 mil of coolant stocked up.
Edit: my first market dump will be tomorrow at 15:00 ET, i will be dropping 50 mil coolant on the market in jita in 5 orders of 10 mil each. Mail me if u want to exentd this date vs a fee of 1 billion for each 3 days
Youre telling me you spendt 331,5 billion isk on coolant :) Yea right..
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Bosswoman
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Posted - 2010.08.29 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: Smelly Bait Edited by: Smelly Bait on 28/08/2010 13:02:19 hehe, who said nobody bought in coolant before it got expensive,.... i have 221 mil of coolant stocked up.
Edit: my first market dump will be tomorrow at 15:00 ET, i will be dropping 50 mil coolant on the market in jita in 5 orders of 10 mil each. Mail me if u want to exentd this date vs a fee of 1 billion for each 3 days
Awful attempt at a scam, I really doubt you bought 221b in coolant.
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Rumple Fourskin
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Posted - 2010.08.29 19:10:00 -
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Edited by: Rumple Fourskin on 29/08/2010 19:10:40 yeah right. You bought 221b worth at the peak and are going to dump them back on the market now that they are less then half price?
Golf Clap...
You are doing it wrong
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Grozen
Caldari Titan Core
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Posted - 2010.08.29 19:19:00 -
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everything is going down and a lot of people are cashing in i can never believe at the current trend we're going to reach 20k stable gs/coolant/ w/e. knowledge is power |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.08.29 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Grozen everything is going down and a lot of people are cashing in i can never believe at the current trend we're going to reach 20k stable gs/coolant/ w/e.
I am analyzing coolant's price trend right now, at
Linkage
Should be obvious what'll happen next. - Auditing & consulting
When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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Major Stardust
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Posted - 2010.08.30 01:05:00 -
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With all respect to you and your analysis, obvious next is hearing of someone laughing all the way to the bank. Tears also and a lot of sheep ripped off, crying. ahahaahaaa hahahah
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PinkFish
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Posted - 2010.08.30 01:54:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Originally by: Grozen everything is going down and a lot of people are cashing in i can never believe at the current trend we're going to reach 20k stable gs/coolant/ w/e.
I am analyzing coolant's price trend right now, at
Linkage
Should be obvious what'll happen next.
It's not as obvious as you'd like it to be. Yes there is the obvious "head and shoulders" pattern in the graph. However, there is an actual increasing trend-line underneath the graph that is totally hidden by manipulations thus far. That line represents both the inherent changes in supply and the ever decreasing number of people who are willing to dedicate hours a day to producing coolant in volume to "cash out" on the spike. I don't think we will know much of anything about coolant until the rebound.
I could be dead wrong, though. I really enjoyed your thread and I'm the first to admit that I don't know what I don't know.
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Vilgan Mazran
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2010.08.30 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Grozen everything is going down and a lot of people are cashing in i can never believe at the current trend we're going to reach 20k stable gs/coolant/ w/e.
why are you mixing P2 and P3 items in the 20k thing? Most P3s are pretty stable well above 20k. GS is obviously super low right now due to stockpiles, but it will rise as well once those stockpiles run out. Obviously when they will run out is much debated, but the fact that they will go 3-4x their current value once they do is pretty much accepted I believe.
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