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Metal Dude Destructive Influence IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.29 23:24:00 - [211] Originally by: Mire Stoude Edited by: Mire Stoude on 29/07/2010 22:39:38 The only thing broken is the mechanic that allows / encourages 1200 person fleet fights. Alliances should get together all civilized-like and just send their 15 best pilots against each other. Whoever wins gets control of the system. Yes, that is the only solution. Also, stop crying and making it seem like lagged out fleet fights are something new. Empire is just fine, btw. Bingo. The people that are whining the most are the people that bring 1K to every fight and complain that they can't bring more. You want to fix the game CCP? Make a stacking penalty for bringing blobs to a fight. The more you bring the less damage you do. That will fix the ****ing blobing and the lag. Encourage skill over numbers and when a gang of 50 kills a blob of 400 there will be no more blobs and lag. But nooooo. They want CCP to "fix" the game so that they can bring 2K. Than it will be 3K, 4K and so on. The truth will set you free
Dirk Mortice	Posted - 2010.07.29 23:28:00 - [212] Originally by: Metal Dude Originally by: Mire Stoude Edited by: Mire Stoude on 29/07/2010 22:39:38 The only thing broken is the mechanic that allows / encourages 1200 person fleet fights. Alliances should get together all civilized-like and just send their 15 best pilots against each other. Whoever wins gets control of the system. Yes, that is the only solution. Also, stop crying and making it seem like lagged out fleet fights are something new. Empire is just fine, btw. Bingo. The people that are whining the most are the people that bring 1K to every fight and complain that they can't bring more. You want to fix the game CCP? Make a stacking penalty for bringing blobs to a fight. The more you bring the less damage you do. That will fix the ****ing blobing and the lag. Encourage skill over numbers and when a gang of 50 kills a blob of 400 there will be no more blobs and lag. But nooooo. They want CCP to "fix" the game so that they can bring 2K. Than it will be 3K, 4K and so on. But what would happen to IT then? :lol: On a serious note, thats a fair point and everything if it wasn't for the fact that even 100v100 fights are broken these days
Helicity Boson Amarr The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.07.29 23:29:00 - [213] Originally by: Dirk Mortice Originally by: Metal Dude Originally by: Mire Stoude Edited by: Mire Stoude on 29/07/2010 22:39:38 The only thing broken is the mechanic that allows / encourages 1200 person fleet fights. Alliances should get together all civilized-like and just send their 15 best pilots against each other. Whoever wins gets control of the system. Yes, that is the only solution. Also, stop crying and making it seem like lagged out fleet fights are something new. Empire is just fine, btw. Bingo. The people that are whining the most are the people that bring 1K to every fight and complain that they can't bring more. You want to fix the game CCP? Make a stacking penalty for bringing blobs to a fight. The more you bring the less damage you do. That will fix the ****ing blobing and the lag. Encourage skill over numbers and when a gang of 50 kills a blob of 400 there will be no more blobs and lag. But nooooo. They want CCP to "fix" the game so that they can bring 2K. Than it will be 3K, 4K and so on. But what would happen to IT then? :lol: On a serious note, thats a fair point and everything if it wasn't for the fact that even 100v100 fights are broken these days Try 20 vs. 20.
Phosphorus Palladium	Posted - 2010.07.29 23:31:00 - [214] Edited by: Phosphorus Palladium on 29/07/2010 23:33:49 Originally by: Helicity Boson Originally by: Dirk Mortice On a serious note, thats a fair point and everything if it wasn't for the fact that even 100v100 fights are broken these days Try 20 vs. 20. What about 100 vs 1? Ah, just kidding...
Xiaodown Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2010.07.30 00:34:00 - [215] Originally by: Cipher Jones Originally by: Nardman Come to 0.0. Participate in a real fleet battle. Then take your foot and stick it in your mouth. Oh so because fleet battles with thousands of people lag the entire game is broken? Give me a break. HOW MANY TIMES MUST IT BE SAID? CCP Advertises that fleet battles with thousands of people ARE what the game is about! What if you saw a car advertisement which showed a car driving along a road, and then when you bough it, it wouldn't start - but there was some guy in the back seat saying "so what? The cup holders and the stereo work, what's the big deal?" If they advertised a game about mining and NPC missions, then we'd have a valid argument on our hands. But, you can't put out this, and then not acknowledge that you COMPLETELY FAIL to deliver on any aspect of anything that's happening in that video. ~X --
Al3xii	Posted - 2010.07.30 00:40:00 - [216] Originally by: Xiaodown Originally by: Cipher Jones Originally by: Nardman Come to 0.0. Participate in a real fleet battle. Then take your foot and stick it in your mouth. Oh so because fleet battles with thousands of people lag the entire game is broken? Give me a break. HOW MANY TIMES MUST IT BE SAID? CCP Advertises that fleet battles with thousands of people ARE what the game is about! What if you saw a car advertisement which showed a car driving along a road, and then when you bough it, it wouldn't start - but there was some guy in the back seat saying "so what? The cup holders and the stereo work, what's the big deal?" If they advertised a game about mining and NPC missions, then we'd have a valid argument on our hands. But, you can't put out this, and then not acknowledge that you COMPLETELY FAIL to deliver on any aspect of anything that's happening in that video. ~X quoted for truth AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BuckStrider Fleem Co	Posted - 2010.07.30 00:48:00 - [217] Quote: But, you can't put out this, and then not acknowledge that you COMPLETELY FAIL to deliver on any aspect of anything that's happening in that video. Of any thread running right now....This line is the best response of any. 10/10
Pr1ncess Alia	Posted - 2010.07.30 01:23:00 - [218] Originally by: Xiaodown But, you can't put out this, and then not acknowledge that you COMPLETELY FAIL to deliver on any aspect of anything that's happening in that video. i forgot just how sick awesome that video was instead of playing eve, i'm just going to watch that video a couple times every night. god bless teh developers that are trying to make this game as good as it should be god damn teh management that ignores real problems and ties dev hands with crap decision making --- Players are losing faith and loyalty in CCP due previous expansions not living up to player expectations. The CSM and CCP agreed that expectation management can be improved
Irritating Troll	Posted - 2010.07.30 01:32:00 - [219] Originally by: Metal Dude Originally by: Mire Stoude Edited by: Mire Stoude on 29/07/2010 22:39:38 The only thing broken is the mechanic that allows / encourages 1200 person fleet fights. Alliances should get together all civilized-like and just send their 15 best pilots against each other. Whoever wins gets control of the system. Yes, that is the only solution. Also, stop crying and making it seem like lagged out fleet fights are something new. Empire is just fine, btw. Bingo. The people that are whining the most are the people that bring 1K to every fight and complain that they can't bring more. You want to fix the game CCP? Make a stacking penalty for bringing blobs to a fight. The more you bring the less damage you do. That will fix the ****ing blobing and the lag. Encourage skill over numbers and when a gang of 50 kills a blob of 400 there will be no more blobs and lag. But nooooo. They want CCP to "fix" the game so that they can bring 2K. Than it will be 3K, 4K and so on. Failsauce. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq2oxt7Nrxo&annotation_id=annotation_138481&feature=iv Pay special attention to what is said at 1:30. The game IS advertised as being able to sustain those gigantic engagements.
Pr1ncess Alia	Posted - 2010.07.30 01:37:00 - [220] Originally by: Irritating Troll Originally by: Metal Dude Originally by: Mire Stoude Edited by: Mire Stoude on 29/07/2010 22:39:38 The only thing broken is the mechanic that allows / encourages 1200 person fleet fights. Alliances should get together all civilized-like and just send their 15 best pilots against each other. Whoever wins gets control of the system. Yes, that is the only solution. Also, stop crying and making it seem like lagged out fleet fights are something new. Empire is just fine, btw. Bingo. The people that are whining the most are the people that bring 1K to every fight and complain that they can't bring more. You want to fix the game CCP? Make a stacking penalty for bringing blobs to a fight. The more you bring the less damage you do. That will fix the ****ing blobing and the lag. Encourage skill over numbers and when a gang of 50 kills a blob of 400 there will be no more blobs and lag. But nooooo. They want CCP to "fix" the game so that they can bring 2K. Than it will be 3K, 4K and so on. Failsauce. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq2oxt7Nrxo&annotation_id=annotation_138481&feature=iv Pay special attention to what is said at 1:30. The game IS advertised as being able to sustain those gigantic engagements. not to mention it's spouting out of the mouth of a person that is in a 5000 person alliance that's only way of accomplishing ANYthing in this game is through blobbing to the point of crashing a node. i bet good money he's not going to pay special attention to anything but the little world he's constructed in his head --- Players are losing faith and loyalty in CCP due previous expansions not living up to player expectations. The CSM and CCP agreed that expectation management can be improved
chingchongchangy	Posted - 2010.07.30 02:10:00 - [221] http://kotaku.com/5599803/eve-solicits-player-support-players-solicit-lag-fix Another article
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.30 02:17:00 - [222] Originally by: Helicity Boson Originally by: Dirk Mortice Originally by: Metal Dude Originally by: Mire Stoude Edited by: Mire Stoude on 29/07/2010 22:39:38 The only thing broken is the mechanic that allows / encourages 1200 person fleet fights. Alliances should get together all civilized-like and just send their 15 best pilots against each other. Whoever wins gets control of the system. Yes, that is the only solution. Also, stop crying and making it seem like lagged out fleet fights are something new. Empire is just fine, btw. Bingo. The people that are whining the most are the people that bring 1K to every fight and complain that they can't bring more. You want to fix the game CCP? Make a stacking penalty for bringing blobs to a fight. The more you bring the less damage you do. That will fix the ****ing blobing and the lag. Encourage skill over numbers and when a gang of 50 kills a blob of 400 there will be no more blobs and lag. But nooooo. They want CCP to "fix" the game so that they can bring 2K. Than it will be 3K, 4K and so on. But what would happen to IT then? :lol: On a serious note, thats a fair point and everything if it wasn't for the fact that even 100v100 fights are broken these days Try 20 vs. 20. See, thats why fanbois make me want to turn emo and cut myself. In this very thread I was told that "if you don't do it yourself you opinion doesn't mean anything" yet I have fought in battles bigger than that and they were not broken. I was playing on a laptop with mediocre grafix card and it was quite playable. This is clearly a signature.
Pr1ncess Alia	Posted - 2010.07.30 02:32:00 - [223] Originally by: Cipher Jones See, thats why some of these so and so's make me want to turn emo and cut myself. In this very thread I was told that "if you don't do it yourself you opinion doesn't mean anything" yet I have fought in battles bigger than that and they were not broken. I was playing on a laptop with mediocre grafix card and it was quite playable. Well that's good because I hear when there are server problems, having a good GRAFIX card makes that all go away. --- Players are losing faith and loyalty in CCP due previous expansions not living up to player expectations. The CSM and CCP agreed that expectation management can be improved
chingchongchangy	Posted - 2010.07.30 02:33:00 - [224] Originally by: Cipher Jones See, thats why some of these so and so's make me want to turn emo and cut myself. In this very thread I was told that "if you don't do it yourself you opinion doesn't mean anything" yet I have fought in battles bigger than that and they were not broken. I was playing on a laptop with mediocre grafix card and it was quite playable. Quote: CCP Advertises that fleet battles with thousands of people ARE what the game is about! Please link me to said advert, please. thank you. Your welcome.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.07.30 02:49:00 - [225] Originally by: Monkey Saturday Originally by: Ranger 1 Originally by: Lubomir Penev Originally by: Ranger 1 By the way, the UI development team was tripled... but don't let me confuse you further. Please enlighten me. What did the achieve. Oh I forgot... 3 x 0 = 0 Actually my friend even before the team was expanded they caught a refresh bug in the overview that was causing various issues, including additional lag. Opps, sorry, trying SO hard not to confuse you with facts... You mean this one from december 2009? The last time they mentioned lag in their patch notes? Please point me to the notes that say i'm wrong and i'll gladly say I was wrong. No, I mean this one, from this month. No apology necessary, there has been a lot of information flying around lately. Quote: So then why has the lag increased?? Please enlighten me oh wise one! Can you maybe get that info out of ccp's ass? You seem to be enjoying that place.... Actually client side lag has decreased along with the other overview issues that were introduced last expansion, it is the server side lag that is causing the issues you keep bleating about. Keep trying to copy PL's "fist" technique and you should have less to worry about than most... if you can find the time outside of your incessant whining. Quote: On a serious note, thats a fair point and everything if it wasn't for the fact that even 100v100 fights are broken these days Actually 100v100 hasn't really had any issues, but if you push much beyond 300 in system gun cycle issues begin, and much beyond 500 things go downhill rapidly from there. My saying that most aspects of EVE are quite playable does NOT mean that I don't recognize the current problems with large scale combat. It's irritating and badly in need of a fix, however it does not represent the majority of the game play available in EVE. Quote: Try 20 vs. 20. You must have been on the same node as us. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
Serrad Trenn Amarr	Posted - 2010.07.30 03:52:00 - [226] Originally by: Al3xii CCP claims lag is number 1 priority. CCP assigned unknown number of space cowboys ( from 1 to 15 ) to fix the issue. Incarna gets 70. How is the lag number 1 priority? If u are not here to troll - give me a logical response. I want to build a new garage for my new car next to my house. I hire 10 guys to do this. Also my stove is broken and I hire two other guys to fix it. Then my wife ***es (complains) how my stupid garage isn't as important as fixing the stove so we can cook, which I agree to and tell her the stove is top priority. Now she calls me a liar because there are still more people working on the garage than on the stove, in spite of the problem with the stove seeming to be more complicated and taking some time to solve. So I'm thinking of redirecting 6 of the garage workers to help repair the stove, even though they probably just stand around and watch carefully, but at least I could -maybe- avoid more ***ing (complaining) from my wife.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.07.30 03:54:00 - [227] Originally by: BuckStrider Quote: But, you can't put out this, and then not acknowledge that you COMPLETELY FAIL to deliver on any aspect of anything that's happening in that video. Of any thread running right now....This line is the best response of any. 10/10 Wtb: Dominion trailer that shows a 1000 ship fleet fight. At the most there might have beem a bit over a hundred in system if you had actually took the time to pause the video and count the ships. That amount of pilots in a single system is perfectly playable right now as long as you tell ccp ahead of time. But hey lets not let silly stuff like logic get in the way of a good rant thread. Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
Skydell Morrigna Order	Posted - 2010.07.30 04:06:00 - [228] Edited by: Skydell on 30/07/2010 04:09:47 Best of luck to them. Many aspects of the game are very much broken in they cant be played the way the mechanics have them set up and its Lagg that is the cause. Dominion was the NGE of EvE. I dont know what they did but it really ****ed this game up. - example of broken EvE: Right now to take down a station with one cycle of dread siege, you need 70 dreads. If you add 100 sub caps, support to that, pit two sides, thats 400 minimum you need in system. 400 in a system, mostly cap will be black screen 'o' death right now. The game wont do it.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.07.30 04:27:00 - [229] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: BuckStrider Quote: But, you can't put out this, and then not acknowledge that you COMPLETELY FAIL to deliver on any aspect of anything that's happening in that video. Of any thread running right now....This line is the best response of any. 10/10 Wtb: Dominion trailer that shows a 1000 ship fleet fight. At the most there might have beem a bit over a hundred in system if you had actually took the time to pause the video and count the ships. That amount of pilots in a single system is perfectly playable right now as long as you tell ccp ahead of time. But hey lets not let silly stuff like logic get in the way of a good rant thread. QFT. People really should watch the video they are brandishing as some sort of "truth of false advertising". Skydell: 1: You don't really know what the NGE is do you. 2: We have taken a couple of stations this last week alone, and dozens over the last few months. Large fleet lag issues made things tricky yes, but far from impossible... or even difficult. I'm sorry my friend, I'm not disputing there are serious issues with large fleet engagements. But EVE is far from unplayable, even in respect to taking stations and/or territory. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
Metal Dude Destructive Influence IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.30 04:34:00 - [230] Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia not to mention it's spouting out of the mouth of a person that is in a 5000 person alliance that's only way of accomplishing ANYthing in this game is through blobbing to the point of crashing a node. i bet good money he's not going to pay special attention to anything but the little world he's constructed in his head And this spouting out of a mouth of a gutless alt that has no balls to post with his NC main and canÆs accomplish ANYthing in the game without NAPing half of 0.0 and then whining about the state of the game because he canÆt bring 2K alts in to a fight and win by default. The truth will set you free
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.07.30 04:38:00 - [231] Originally by: Metal Dude Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia not to mention it's spouting out of the mouth of a person that is in a 5000 person alliance that's only way of accomplishing ANYthing in this game is through blobbing to the point of crashing a node. i bet good money he's not going to pay special attention to anything but the little world he's constructed in his head And this spouting out of a mouth of a gutless alt that has no balls to post with his NC main and canÆs accomplish ANYthing in the game without NAPing half of 0.0 and then whining about the state of the game because he canÆt bring 2K alts in to a fight and win by default. Take it to caod you morons. It's not like either of you has the slightest influance on your alliances actions unless you are claiming to be one of the 10 or so pilots at the top of the food chain that actually run the entire show.. Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
Pr1ncess Alia	Posted - 2010.07.30 04:40:00 - [232] Originally by: Metal Dude Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia not to mention it's spouting out of the mouth of a person that is in a 5000 person alliance that's only way of accomplishing ANYthing in this game is through blobbing to the point of crashing a node. i bet good money he's not going to pay special attention to anything but the little world he's constructed in his head And this spouting out of a mouth of a gutless alt that has no balls to post with his NC main and canÆs accomplish ANYthing in the game without NAPing half of 0.0 and then whining about the state of the game because he canÆt bring 2K alts in to a fight and win by default. MentalDude strike my e-honor wrecking for lololololol u mad brah? And no, I don't join bandwagon blob factories like IT or the NC. I prefer some skill be involved in my game. You know, your talk... only with the walk to back it up. --- Players are losing faith and loyalty in CCP due previous expansions not living up to player expectations. The CSM and CCP agreed that expectation management can be improved
Doctor Ungabungas Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.07.30 04:43:00 - [233] Edited by: Doctor Ungabungas on 30/07/2010 04:43:59 Originally by: Metal Dude Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia not to mention it's spouting out of the mouth of a person that is in a 5000 person alliance that's only way of accomplishing ANYthing in this game is through blobbing to the point of crashing a node. i bet good money he's not going to pay special attention to anything but the little world he's constructed in his head And this spouting out of a mouth of a gutless alt that has no balls to post with his NC main and canÆs accomplish ANYthing in the game without NAPing half of 0.0 and then whining about the state of the game because he canÆt bring 2K alts in to a fight and win by default. We had a fight a few weeks ago, it would have topped out at 300ish (Just GF/Test and Atlas) and we were getting module and grid lag. Three hundred. What's your solution? Smaller corporations? I wonder what that Sovereignty skill is meant to be for, since CCP clearly expects us to only have about 50 players in each corp.
Thresh Avery Best Path Inc. Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.30 04:46:00 - [234] Originally by: Pesky LaRue I don't believe they are the same thing, it's called an analogy. We're paying for a product/service and if you're not happy with it, you can cancel - just like you could cancel your ISP, your phone, stop eating at a particular fast-food restaurant, stop buying BP gas, or whatever you choose to illustrate this point. People become so emotionally attached to their favorite game they stop acting rationally. I know it was an analogy, but there's obviously a difference in how we think. You seem to be willful enough to cancel your accounts and leave, or perhaps [even though you've invested a lot in monetary and quantum terms] you don't have much genuine investment in the relationships formed within it or the events going on in the game to stick around. I don't know how you play so i couldn't comment on that. But for me, the social interaction and such is what keeps me here, so i don't see it as black and white as you in that CCP are providing a service, so if i don't like their ineptitude i can just walk away. Also, your mention of 7 years of "EVE is dying" threads being tolerable and ignorable by CCP doesn't mean that this is going to go the same way. The problem with those past threads is that they were led by consistent forum whiners and the people within just over-exaggerating about the state of the game. I've played as long as you have and i do remember some of them. Stuff like "omg, nano is broken, this game is dying!" to simple things CCP could make changes to and they then put some effort into doing so. They were stupid claims about EVE "dying". I remember the many many whinethreads over the years based on CCP's way of dealing with controversy in the game and seemingly favouring Band of Brothers, but when GoonSwarm disbanded their alliance, and outcry about CCP attempting to give KenZoku sov and overriding the timer for sov gain touched the nerves of so many people that after a threadnaught, the changes were revoked and CCP put their hands up and apologized for interfering. So if you think this so-called childish method of dealing with the issue doesn't work on some level, you're mistaken. However, you're free to choose the method you deem most appropriate in dealing with the situation.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.07.30 04:50:00 - [235] Originally by: Doctor Ungabungas We had a fight a few weeks ago, it would have topped out at 300ish (Just GF/Test and Atlas) and we were getting module and grid lag. Three hundred.. Well that sucks. But being curious was it an ad hoc fight that escalated from a smaller conflict? Or was it a pre planned fight on a reinforced node that ccp was notified about? Originally by: Balsak Eve-Online, the game that is so awesome people are willing to give CCP money so that they may have the privilege to bash it.
enterprisePSI Gallente Unimatrix 0.1	Posted - 2010.07.30 04:58:00 - [236] Edited by: enterprisePSI on 30/07/2010 04:58:27 Think about it. I do not think lag will be ever fixed. Unless they restore it 2 expansions ago. And then people will whine again about "ZOMG wheres PI and stuff" They will deploy a patch that will "pseudo fix" the lag only to destroy it again on next expansion. Only a well coordinated attempt will force them. Something like getting at least 60% of subscribers to not resub next month. Something like a strike. Off course such a venture is impossible..... Tears, or the titan dies!
JoBa70	Posted - 2010.07.30 05:05:00 - [237] Originally by: Zeba Wtb: Dominion trailer that shows a 1000 ship fleet fight. At the most there might have beem a bit over a hundred in system if you had actually took the time to pause the video and count the ships. That amount of pilots in a single system is perfectly playable right now as long as you tell ccp ahead of time. But hey lets not let silly stuff like logic get in the way of a good rant thread. It would be logical to realize that this trailer simply advertizes large fleet battles, rather than counting single ships. Oh well...
Pr1ncess Alia	Posted - 2010.07.30 05:05:00 - [238] Originally by: enterprisePSI Edited by: enterprisePSI on 30/07/2010 04:58:27 Think about it. I do not think lag will be ever fixed. Unless they restore it 2 expansions ago. And then people will whine again about "ZOMG wheres PI and stuff" They will deploy a patch that will "pseudo fix" the lag only to destroy it again on next expansion. Only a well coordinated attempt will force them. Something like getting at least 60% of subscribers to not resub next month. Something like a strike. Off course such a venture is impossible..... lag will never go away, but they have demonstrated that they can minimize it to the point the game is playable and fun even at larger numbers what we have now is terrible lag with even moderate numbers and exacerbating that is other terrible lag that seems to show up with minimal numbers, traveling, across the board they can fix it. if they don't, well we won't be playing this game much longer what i hope for is that they learn a lesson from this and -once fixed, try not to screw with performance pertinent code they obviously don't understand anymore -if they DO change something and performance takes a dive, be responsible enough to say "our bad, we will roll this patch back until we can solve the issue" ccp shouldn't be afraid to back out of a patch that hurts their game in the future. chop it up into several pieces if you can't figure out what's tipping the boat. whatever it takes. if they learn ANYTHING i hope to god they learn this. --- Players are losing faith and loyalty in CCP due previous expansions not living up to player expectations. The CSM and CCP agreed that expectation management can be improved
Doctor Ungabungas Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.07.30 05:25:00 - [239] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Doctor Ungabungas We had a fight a few weeks ago, it would have topped out at 300ish (Just GF/Test and Atlas) and we were getting module and grid lag. Three hundred.. Well that sucks. But being curious was it an ad hoc fight that escalated from a smaller conflict? Or was it a pre planned fight on a reinforced node that ccp was notified about? It was a fight that you wouldn't have to petition for pre-dominion.
StainLessStealRat Blood Covenant Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.07.30 05:50:00 - [240] Originally by: Metal Dude Originally by: Mire Stoude Edited by: Mire Stoude on 29/07/2010 22:39:38 The only thing broken is the mechanic that allows / encourages 1200 person fleet fights. Alliances should get together all civilized-like and just send their 15 best pilots against each other. Whoever wins gets control of the system. Yes, that is the only solution. Also, stop crying and making it seem like lagged out fleet fights are something new. Empire is just fine, btw. Bingo. The people that are whining the most are the people that bring 1K to every fight and complain that they can't bring more. You want to fix the game CCP? Make a stacking penalty for bringing blobs to a fight. The more you bring the less damage you do. That will fix the ****ing blobing and the lag. Encourage skill over numbers and when a gang of 50 kills a blob of 400 there will be no more blobs and lag. But nooooo. They want CCP to "fix" the game so that they can bring 2K. Than it will be 3K, 4K and so on. Dude STFU, If you were not in IT you would just be a douche but since you are you become a hipocritcal douche who does not know what your talking about Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels. Zymurgist

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