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EyeCeeYou
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Posted - 2010.08.08 15:40:00 -
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Lots of people want a richer market in Eve. I'm one of them.
I propose the following changes for discussion. I think this would open up many opportunities, including real equity markets, banking, derivatives/futures, etc.
Feedback appreciated.
1. "Back-end" created Corporate Reports
Create automated reporting tools for corporations with a menu of possible disclosures that the corporate CEO (or authorized designee) checks off which ones (s)he wants to make, and then the report is automagically posted to the forums without user intervention, and in an uneditable fashion (but obviously in a thread so can be discussed). The menu of choices needs to be complete, meaning assets, purchases/sales - everything. Obviously it would include basic info as well like EBITDA, perhaps a NAV, cashflow/expenditures analysis, debt, etc. Corporations and investors will have a back and forth until a happy medium of what degree of disclosure is enough. The report needs to be automatically posted to the forums and not be editable for obvious reasons.
2. Revise Collateral
Change the function of collateral so that the collateralized object is maintained and usable by the debtor, subject to a few restrictions: a. Collateral cannot be sold/traded/transferred; b. Collateral cannot be removed from a station unless it is insured (and when insurance is put on collateral, the proceeds are automatically assigned to the creditor).
3. Collateral History Ratings
Every person/corporation has a Collateral History Rating (or some catchier phrase from some marketing type). It only goes up, and it goes up by 1 point for every 1 ISK of collateral that is destroyed while in your possession or that is "called" as a consequence of a default in the underlying obligation. You can't "fix" it because scam-transactions would make the rating useless. I think a permanent rating that follows the character would alone go far towards helping out.
4. Permit collateral to be used to enforce any obligations
Create a system whereby collateral can be pledged for a more rich and complicated system of obligations -- Dividend rates over time; minimum corporate asset balances; cash on hand balances; number of shares issued; the sky is the limit. The idea is to permit corporate entities to be able to make promises that have teeth, the teeth being the collateral. So a CEO may run an IPO on the ground that his cash on hand will never go below 500 million, he promises to never issue more than 500 shares, he promises to issue a dividend of 20 million weekly, and he promises an annual corporate buy-back opportunity at some formula or such. Each promise could be collateralized. This would obviously take a lot of work, but could create a really rich system which would help both the primary markets AND help create a secondary market to develop (esp. in combo with reporting).
At the end of the day, its very hard to come up with real consequences given that its a game. I think the best you can do is create transparency, and consequences in the form of other players quickly being able to see someone's history (here, in the form of a "rep" system, i.e. Collateral History Ratings).
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EyeCeeYou
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Posted - 2010.08.08 23:05:00 -
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Edited by: EyeCeeYou on 08/08/2010 23:06:00 C'mon guys. Instead of arguind over Dyspro going up or trit going down, lets do some big thinking.
What do we need to vault the EVE economy (the only ecnoomy of all MMOs that has 350,000+ players) forward?
ps - I don't bite
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.08.08 23:10:00 -
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I have a unique proposal, what we need is an UNLIMITED amount of buy and sell orders, also an UNLIMITED amount of contracts. This will fix server lag, as well as Incarna, and PLEX's being lost in ganks!
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Halborn
Celtic Technologies Inc.
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Posted - 2010.08.09 00:34:00 -
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Edited by: Halborn on 09/08/2010 00:35:20 One errant thought would be
"Spend more time spending than discussing how to spend"
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Baeryn
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2010.08.09 00:37:00 -
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You should spend maybe five minutes and post your four ideas over on the EVE UserVoice. Let's get some players voting on them, too. Role Playing Games by RolePlayGateway |
Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
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Posted - 2010.08.09 01:19:00 -
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As for 1), I'd say leave that to us 3rd party devs but provide the necessary tools(=APIs) to do so. Along with some long overdue redesign of the API keys: let us create custom keys, which only reveal what you want them to reveal, i.e. your wallet transactions, but not your alliance's standings. Not just the current "all or nothing" API keys. -- EVEWalletAware - an offline wallet manager |
Caleb Ayrania
Gallente TarNec manufacturing disaster
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Posted - 2010.08.09 12:23:00 -
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Honestly all the points are relevant topics, but not something you would want to FIX with a PVE solution.
As mentioned in here already the fix should be on better API controls.
Thus you just need players to be able to create specific keys allowing ONLY specified parts of information.
The rest is much about player created tools and player to player trust.
The trust issue can not be easily resolved, it needs better general "Justice" features in regards to consequences.
Among the solutions to this would be a better bounty and general aggression system, and a standing system that had "CONSEQUENCES"..
This could be better or worse prices to npcs and players. Thus a sort of embargo and Toll system. You have neutral standing no effect, but good or bad could potentially make you unable to trade with any "fair pricing" players. OFC such a system needs to be a VISIBLE standing based one only, so as to follow any ALT/strawman development.
The effect would potentially be that players used standings and policy a lot more and a trust system would develop..
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Riseone
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Posted - 2010.08.09 14:57:00 -
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I disagree with the notion that collateral and credit history should be intertwined. Excuse me while I go all out Randian on this argument:
Collateral in EVE currently represents a buy option. When you post a contract and entrust the goods to someone else you simply must place collateral at a rate high enough to make the failed contract worth your while. For example, you can place your collateral below market value if you expect prices to fall before you could liquidate the good. Not everyone will look at the contract as an option this way, but thats their loss. I generally price contracts at a rate that is about on par with market value, since what I'm shipping I am generally going to sell anyway.
If you under-value your contracts as a favor to others, and don't view the failed contract as charity, you are basing your financial transactions on an appeal to a specific set of morals. Thusly, you are projecting your expectation of a moral behavior on others (which often fails, such as when they have morals like Ann Rand that dictate obeying your morals for the sake of morality as immoral). This style of morality is easily exploited, thus anyone you consider trustworthy is being pushed further to the role of a sheep.
Viewing collateral and failed contracts as a tool allows EVE to work from a mutually beneficial system. This eliminates many sheep (and starves the wolves), allowing our economy to thrive.
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Baeryn
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2010.08.09 15:32:00 -
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Configurable API Keys is now the 2nd most popular suggestion with 39 votes. Good work. Role Playing Games by RolePlayGateway |
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