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Jim Era
The Syndicate Inc En Garde
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Posted - 2012.07.25 17:10:00 -
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Been gaming on laptops for the last few years, getting tired of it. But I haven't even played with desktop specs in over 5 years. Looking to buy/build a new gaming computer, I don't play anything aside from EVE and old dos games so it doesn't have to be supermegaultra huge. My spending limit is going to be around $2000
tl;dr gimme your dream computers so I can live your dreams. |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
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Posted - 2012.07.25 17:31:00 -
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meh don't have time to play shopping. For your needs you can easily fill out the list for around $1200-1500 and probably use the left over for big monitors.
I'm currently am running an older Quad core on a decent board with 16 gig ram (It can hold 32). On my next upgrade I want to replace the CPU and maybe the board if its not compatible though I'm rather fond of it.
I've got 2 250 gig drives and a terrabyte drive that is dedicated to my games (Because steam doesn't let you spread them out). I would like to replace one of the drives with a SSD and put the OS on it as I hear those handle smoke better.
My GPU I think is currently a 2 gig.
And I'm running a 24" and 19" monitor. I would like to upgrade both to 30's but it's not a necessity.....yet.
I used to have to have all these specs memorized but now it's just whatever and stuff. This pc started as a off the shelf model and each year at tax season I like to go out and upgrade something on it so it's been pretty good about being up to speed with midrange junk as it easily meets or exceeds most spec requirements. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2012.07.25 20:34:00 -
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Only $2,000? You might be able to afford the hard drives for my dream PC. The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks The Marmite Collective
2034
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Posted - 2012.07.25 20:35:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:I would like to replace one of the drives with a SSD and put the OS on it as I hear those handle smoke better.
I have a pair of striped 120 GB SSDs, and they are BLAZING fast. No more seeking on random read/writes The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |
Jim Era
The Syndicate Inc En Garde
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Posted - 2012.07.25 20:41:00 -
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Only $2000 to play EVE is enough in my opinion. IF I must spend more than this to continue playing at optimal performance that would really suck. I don't need multiple screens. Only one account would be running on said computer. I don't need huge amounts of ram or anything really because I literally do NOTHING on my computer besides EVE, Strife, Descent 1 & 2 and Riven :P I don't browse websites (unless I'm at work) I don't purchase things, I don't use computers except EVE. Surely $2000 is plenty for a single use computer. |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
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Posted - 2012.07.25 20:42:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:I would like to replace one of the drives with a SSD and put the OS on it as I hear those handle smoke better. I have a pair of striped 120 GB SSDs, and they are BLAZING fast. No more seeking on random read/writes
Sure the speed will be a bonus but my main issue is that when I'm sitting at the pc with an eyepatch on, a parakeet on my shoulder, and my pipe tobacco in my mouth, the smoke, from what I've been told, gets inside of the HD (which I thought was supposed to be airtight) and creates a thin layer of muck that the laser can't read. At least that's what I was informed when my first drive crapped out and started causing blue screens. |
Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2012.07.25 21:20:00 -
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Depends of which camps you are:
CPU - Are you AMD or Intel? GPU - Are you AMD or Nvidia? HD - Plates or Transistors?
"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" ~ The Story of the Ninja |
Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2012.07.25 21:21:00 -
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Oh... I forgot... u like it one headed or triple monitor monster? "This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" ~ The Story of the Ninja |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2012.07.25 22:51:00 -
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Jim Era wrote:Looking to buy/build a new gaming computer, I don't play anything aside from EVE and old dos games so it doesn't have to be supermegaultra huge. My spending limit is going to be around $2000 Your spending limit is at least twice of what you'd probably actually need. Even a 400$ box could be sufficient for single client EVE with near-max graphic settings outside of large fleet engagements for at least 30 FPS, then add a single decent-ish FHD monitor for about 100$, and you're there with a quarter of your budget. On the other hand, go with multiple clients on fresh nice fast large monitors used in heavy-duty fleet engagements at max detail and expect 120 FPS, and not even 2000$ would be anywhere enough for the box plus monitors. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T http://eve-search.com/stats/Akita_T T2 BPO poll : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114789 |
Jim Era
The Syndicate Inc En Garde
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Posted - 2012.07.25 22:59:00 -
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Ok, I will be engaging in big fleet battles. Monitor/mouse/keyboard are all not included. I will only be using a single EVE client on said computer, other clients can run on my current comps (I have a lot :/) I will be living in null, experiencing large blobs etc. I don't want to pay 1000 extra for flashy lights and an alien decal on it, unless the hardware inside is worth it. If I must up my budget then I can't get it this week and have to wait til next so no biggie, lets up it to $4000 for the "tower"
again that being said I am just playing 1 client, with probability of large scale battles. I don't want to lag, my net can handle it. This is just for the tower and stuff inside, not the monitors. I have more than enough monitors because I don't watch TV I just use it currently for my monitor. |
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1195
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Posted - 2012.07.25 23:04:00 -
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You could go for something like this: CPU/mobo: i5-3570K on Z77 mobo GPU: GTX560 1 GB (or GTX560 Ti 2GB) RAM : 2x8 GB DDR3@1600 minimum (RAM's too cheap to go lower even if you won't really use it) 3 TB slow HDD + 120 or 180 GB SSD (you can use 60GB of it for SSD caching partition for the lager slower drive, and the other 60/120 for OS+games) Nice case with separate PSU, 600W more than enough Total - about 1000-1200 USD so far Add three 23" IPS monitors for ~165-200$ each (plus any needed adaptors to connect them all), and that's 1500-1900 USD total. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T http://eve-search.com/stats/Akita_T T2 BPO poll : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114789 |
Jim Era
The Syndicate Inc En Garde
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Posted - 2012.07.25 23:11:00 -
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cool. ty. I'll just print this comment out and take it to best buy lol.
"I need these pleze" |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1195
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Posted - 2012.07.25 23:13:00 -
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Might want to order off newegg instead and build your own. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T http://eve-search.com/stats/Akita_T T2 BPO poll : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114789 |
Jim Era
The Syndicate Inc En Garde
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Posted - 2012.07.25 23:14:00 -
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I'll check that out too. I just literally have no memory of computers since I gave up a long time ago. I bought a Dell desktop for like $1000 then gutted it and rebuilt it, then it got stolen like 2m onths after and so I gave up lol. Only thing I mess with lately is RAM because every stock computer comes with **** ram. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2012.07.25 23:16:00 -
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They also usually come with crap ventilation, junk PSU, and mediocre mobo. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T http://eve-search.com/stats/Akita_T T2 BPO poll : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114789 |
Jim Era
The Syndicate Inc En Garde
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Posted - 2012.07.25 23:18:00 -
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but see, I don't even know what those things are :P and thus far haven't affected me, My lil laptop plays EVE with all settings on half/enabled
I guess its time to do my research instead of browse these forums all day at work |
Jim Era
The Syndicate Inc En Garde
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Posted - 2012.07.25 23:22:00 -
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Also, any other good sites aside from Newegg? It seems to only have "build your own bundles'" something similar to dominos where I can start by picking one thing at a time and not a big bundle that has to be changed lol. if not I'll figure it out but at a first glance its very cluttered |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1195
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Posted - 2012.07.25 23:25:00 -
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Crap ventilation means extra heat which means extra power use and increased chance for something to croak sooner than it should. Junk PSU means either it goes down in provided power much faster with age leading to eventual "brownouts" when you run something at full throttle, or highly susceptible to power fluctuations which could fry something inside your machine in a worst case scenario (laptops seldom have that problem), or at the very least running up your power bill more than necessary. Mediocre mobo means less room for future improvement (SATA/USB/RAM/PCI-E slots), poor on-board audio, easily damaged/worn capacitors, etc. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T http://eve-search.com/stats/Akita_T T2 BPO poll : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114789 |
Jim Era
The Syndicate Inc En Garde
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Posted - 2012.07.25 23:27:00 -
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gotcha, So I think I got newegg figured out. it seems reasonable. Prices are good etc... Last question I would normally just google but I enjoy getting suggestions due to the nature of the request (e.g. I want someone who can tell me whats better and not what will make them more money)
but what brands should i stick with, notice a lot of the **** is asus or something and I thought those were mediocre at best
Thanks for sticking with me, I know alot of these questions are annoying. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1195
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Posted - 2012.07.25 23:35:00 -
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You'll get a lot of preferences from various people, but for me it's : Gigabyte NVIDIAs for GPU (I like the Gigabyte cooling system, and I prefer NVIDIA to ATI, but not by much), ASRock for mobo (somewhat cheaper but generally quality build), Western Digital for HDD (not very attached to it), Intel for SSD (mostly due to reliability, they have their own semiconductor foundry and they keep the best of the batch for their own SSDs), Corsair builder/gamer series or OCZ for the PSU, no particular strong preference for RAM (but slight advantage to either Geil or Corsair), and there's a huge host of cases to pick from (Cooler Master HAF series is generally quite nice, or maybe Lian-Li if you like a more rugged build, but others are quite nice too. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T http://eve-search.com/stats/Akita_T T2 BPO poll : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114789 |
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Jim Era
The Syndicate Inc En Garde
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Posted - 2012.07.25 23:45:00 -
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ty. Yea thats what I was looking for was preferences. That way I could search a few but (generally) you find decent reviews on everything but now that I'm biased I'd be more likely to choose a previously named component over another in the case of stalemate reviews/prices etc.
EDIT: omg I thought I started a new thread through some miraculously malicious internet feature
but was just page 2
Hasta luego, bout to head home from work and the taxi driver doesn't go over 55 D: |
Andre II
Thukker Tribe Holdings Inc. Can't Undock. Won't Undock
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Posted - 2012.07.25 23:53:00 -
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A Cynabal. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=47868 |
Nachteule Kohen
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Posted - 2012.07.26 03:14:00 -
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get an imac, it works fine with eve and starcraft 2. and they are cheap... 1199$ for 21.5 inch
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AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2012.07.26 05:50:00 -
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Is that all? GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥ Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002.
somethingjustgotreal.com |
dexington
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Posted - 2012.07.26 07:06:00 -
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Akita T wrote:Even a 400$ box could be sufficient for single client EVE with near-max graphic settings outside of large fleet engagements for at least 30 FPS, then add a single decent-ish FHD monitor for about 100$, and you're there with a quarter of your budget.
I run eve on a 450$ laptop, all settings high without anti-aliasing runs smoothly, and two accounts is playable with low settings.
GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2012.07.26 07:38:00 -
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Nachteule Kohen wrote:get an imac, it works fine with eve and starcraft 2. and they are cheap... 1199$ for 21.5 inch
Compared to building one for less, not really. And EVE are not really friends with OS X. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.26 12:45:00 -
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Jim Era wrote:Been gaming on laptops for the last few years, getting tired of it. But I haven't even played with desktop specs in over 5 years. Looking to buy/build a new gaming computer, I don't play anything aside from EVE and old dos games so it doesn't have to be supermegaultra huge. My spending limit is going to be around $2000
tl;dr gimme your dream computers so I can live your dreams.
Been using laptops the last few years as well, and I am never getting a desktop again. The price and performance for laptops are really not that bad, and I got a nice 27" monitor and a nifty G19 keyboard connected to my laptop when I am at home anyways.
The only reason I see for using a desktop now a days is if you want to run a really really beefy machine, maybe add multiple monitors, or some sort of special custom contraption. As well as heat concerns but I find most new laptops deal with heat quite well actually. |
Jim Era
The Syndicate Inc En Garde
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Posted - 2012.07.26 14:17:00 -
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eh no, macs are for well they're lame. Again I love laptops. I have 4, but now I want a desktop for my new house :I anyways, I've already started building it, thanks for everything |
Saithe
Southern Cross Empire Flying Dangerous
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Posted - 2012.07.27 05:19:00 -
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P1 386 16kb RAM 64mb HDD 32mb Stealth 3d video Win 3.1
MMMMMMMMMMM the dreams |
Gabber359
GREY COUNCIL Nulli Secunda
10
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Posted - 2012.07.30 10:26:00 -
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ASUS Radeon HD 7970 HD7970-DC2-3GD5 Video Card Item #:N82E16814121560 Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy $469.99
AMD Gift - AMD Gaming Evolved Three For Free Coupon Item #:N82E16800995122 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $99.99
Intel Core i7-3770S 3.1GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 Quad-Core Desktop Processor Item #:N82E16819116503 Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy $309.99
Newegg Free CPU Magazine Coupon Item #:N82E16800996204 Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy $24.99
Intel 330 Series Maple Crest SSDSC2CT180A3K5 2.5" MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) Item #:N82E16820167122 Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy $199.99 $159.99
ASUS Black Blu-ray Drive SATA Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Item #:N82E16827135247 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $67.99 $54.99
Western Digital RE4 1TB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Internal Enterprise Hard Drive -Bare Drive Item #:N82E16822136798 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $149.99 $119.99
ASUS Black Blu-ray Burner SATA BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Item #:N82E16827135252 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $89.99
Antec Twelve Hundred V3 Black Unbeatable Gaming Case With Side Panel Window Item #:N82E16811129100 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $167.99 $159.99
G.SKILL Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Item #:N82E16820231510 Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy $129.99
SeaSonic Platinum Platinum-860 860W Power Supply Item #:N82E16817151111 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $219.99 $199.99
GIGABYTE GA-X79-UD3 ATX Intel Motherboard Item #:N82E16813128532 Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy $269.99 $239.99
Grand Total:
$1,934.90
The only thing I fear, is running out of beer ! |
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