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Texcoyo
Gallente Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.08.27 05:49:00 -
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Edited by: Texcoyo on 27/08/2010 05:54:10 Edited by: Texcoyo on 27/08/2010 05:49:19 Bluejacket has done more to protect the Federations interests in the entire war zone than you have Andreus. But this is my opinion based on your combat record, as that what we are, soldiers of the Federation. I feel that a politician better suits you than a warrior. But I do know from personal experience though, that the SLAPD corporation is a very deadly and efficient combat contingent, so with that said, I do question your calling of Gen. Bluejacket a "nobody".
As for I-RED, we here at QCATS have nothing but respect for their bravery in combat, and respect them for their professionalism in doing their assigned duties. Our withdraw from that engagement was solely out of the Intaki Councils decision, and request for a cease fire. Although they are a state aligned entity, we give respect where its due.
Opinions aside, whatever is done to help the Intaki people for the better is good in my book, no matter who is helping. But as a para-military unit of the Federation, we have an obligation to them as standing Federation citizens to protect their sovereignty until there is a formal secession from the Federation if that ever takes place. So in saying that, we extend our help to where we can to assist in the stabilization of the area with the expressed statement that we will not assist STPRO forces or negative standing organizations.
//SIGNED//
Lum. Gen. Texcoyo PR Officer, QCATS
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Mammal Tafren
Gallente Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2010.08.27 06:41:00 -
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Texcoyo, it is good to hear reason from QCats. I approve of most of your statement. However, this:
Originally by: Texcoyo Although they are a state aligned entity, we give respect where its due.
is false.
The Intaki Assembly is not a state aligned entity. It is an Intaki-aligned entity within the Federation. There is no evidence to the contrary.
That aside, I applaud your moderate approach to relations in the Placid region.
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Cheiftan
Minmatar Shinryaku Jakkaru Reikon
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Posted - 2010.08.27 09:37:00 -
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With Respect Mr Mammal Tafren I believe he was referring to I-RED being state aligned, which is indeed correct.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.08.27 10:22:00 -
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Originally by: Texcoyo Bluejacket has done more to protect the Federations interests in the entire war zone than you have Andreus. But this is my opinion based on your combat record, as that what we are, soldiers of the Federation. I feel that a politician better suits you than a warrior. But I do know from personal experience though, that the SLAPD corporation is a very deadly and efficient combat contingent
Because, it is of course clear, destroying easily replaceable combat assets is far more important than the terrotiorial defence of the realm, which we've been pursuing tirelessly for months despite limited resources - as for roams, the Caldari just don't show their faces where we roam anymore, or the ones that do are too timid to fight. Daily roams for a week through the length and breadth of Placid showed me that the local pirates have more spine than the entire Caldari militia and our own wartargets combined - the pirates in northwest Placid, for instance, deployed a carrier and a Navy Megathron onto a gate, whereas the last Caldari wargroup we saw wouldn't bring the fight into one of their own plexes without neutral support and superior numbers. I'm certain you'll say something about the fact we don't sign up for fleets in the primary militia channel or go into Tama, but there are no two better ways to guarantee the loss of your ship.
Originally by: Texcoyo so with that said, I do question your calling of Gen. Bluejacket a "nobody".
Once he started recycling the same empty, verifiably false statements over and over again, it became dreadfully clear the man's got some problems. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Mammal Tafren
Gallente Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2010.08.27 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Cheiftan With Respect Mr Mammal Tafren I believe he was referring to I-RED being state aligned, which is indeed correct.
Sorry, I guess the wording confused me. If that is indeed the case, my apologies.
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Annie Anomie
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.08.27 14:46:00 -
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Having fought I-Red I think they'd probably make honourable and useful allies.
It's still interesting to see this particular combination of capsuleers playing house together though.
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.08.27 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Because, it is of course clear, destroying easily replaceable combat assets is far more important than the terrotiorial defence of the realm, which we've been pursuing tirelessly for months despite limited resources - as for roams, the Caldari just don't show their faces where we roam anymore, or the ones that do are too timid to fight.....
We all have a role to fill in this war. For some it's directly fighting the occupancy war. For others it's killing their mission runners. For yet others it's wearing the Caldari Militia down by attrition.
The reason the Caldari Militia is not as active in Placid is because Federation Militia corporations (lead by Shadows of the Federation) have decided to take the fight to the Caldari in their territory. The Caldari Militia is spending too much time replacing those ships destroyed by pilots like Bluejacket CT.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.08.27 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: X Gallentius The reason the Caldari Militia is not as active in Placid is because Federation Militia corporations (lead by Shadows of the Federation) have decided to take the fight to the Caldari in their territory. The Caldari Militia is also spending too much time replacing those ships destroyed by pilots like Bluejacket CT. And they are having a more difficult time doing so since their mission runners have been under constant threat lately by our special forces.
Oh no, I'm having no trouble finding Caldari in Placid. It's finding Caldari willing to fight that's the problem. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Hussain
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2010.08.27 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite For the Gallente: is I-RED still deeply enmeshed in slavery and slaver-profiteering as it was when it operated in CVA-ruled Providence and involved in supporting, outfitting and directing military forces dedicated to enlarging the territory controlled by the Heth dictatorship, and if so are any Gallente working with them in danger of facilitating the enslaving of or totalitarian rule over peoples for which they claim some libertarian concern?
I will quote Mr. Hawke on the idea of labor in the new Intaki state:
Originally by: The Cosmopolite This new direction will demand a skilled labor force to engage in the revised role of refining raw goods, as opposed to the traditional natural resource extraction. The educational system can be redesigned to be rigorous and intensive, with emphasis on immediately practical, rather than intellectual, applications, such as on technical sciences as opposed to political discussion or philosophy. A large portion, around one-fifth of IntakiĘs budget, should be devoted to education to facilitate a large and competent workforce upon graduation.
Another problem facing Intaki is the loss of national identity and unity among most of the population. Many ethnic Intaki are born in foreign lands and identify themselves in terms of planet of origin, rather than being Intaki. This poses possible problems of loyalty, reliability and the possibility of racial riots.
In order to resolve racial tension, a policy to restore national identity through education in schools should be implemented. This must be constantly re-emphasized within the curriculum and "National Education", a compulsory program of which the main goal is to inculcate students with a sense of "national fraternity."
You take your own conclusions.
The deal made by the Intaki Assembly with Ishokune is an error in my opinion but is one I must respect. I-Red would come along naturally.
PS: the original thread is here http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1193982, note that the original post was heavly edited by mr. Hawke.
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John Revenent
Caldari Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2010.08.27 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Under that heading, Captain Revenent, have you fully repudiated slavery, slave trade-profiteering and support for polities that support the slave trade, such as the Amarr Empire and the Khanid Kingdom?
As recently as two weeks ago you admitted to profiteering in the Khanid Kingdom while in a military pact with a slavery-supporting Khanid Kingdom paramilitary organisation. You confirmed the relationship still existed a couple of days earlier after announcing a relationship with a State Protectorate-affiliated mercenary corporation.
The issue seems to me a live one so long as we lack a clear repudiation of slavery and I-RED, having admitted that its past links amounted to profiting from slavery, still maintains military-industrial links with slaver entities.
Our relation with COLD-Wing is purely mercenary in nature, if Ishukone-Raata really wanted to support the Protectorate we would not be running around back rooms making secret deals.
We do not support slavery and never have, as it would be dishonorable to every employee under Ishukone-Raata. We operated in a mostly economical and policing matter in the Amarr Empire and Khanid Kingdom for some time, we operate in the same way with contacts in the Federation, Republic, and State with a professional, fair approach to how we conduct business, this however does not include the illegal activities deemed under Ishukone regulations and Caldari State Laws that the Star Fraction continues to attempt to attack our professionalism, insult our ancestors, and ruin our corporate image.
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Bataav
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2010.08.27 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Hussain PS: the original thread is here http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1193982, note that the original post was heavly edited by mr. Hawke.
I'm not sure I see the relevance of Mr Hawke editing his opening comments here. But they certainly weren't "heavy". Perhaps you wish to discredit him, being opposed to his political dreams for Intaki as you are. If so it's a clumsy attempt.
If you actually take time to look at the details you can see the original post was made at 19:46:00. The edit being completed at 19:46:15. That's only 15 seconds, which is hardly long enough for a concerted effort of heavy editing, really is it?
As an interesting additional point relating to this it looks like you yourself edited your comments in this discussion. Submitting your responses at 18:23:00 only to complete your edit at 19:35:50. That's a whole 2 minutes, 50 seconds of changing what you have said.
How strange that after such "heavy editing" on your part you should wish to bring attention to someone else taking the time to correct a spelling mistake, perhaps or make something a little clearer for the reader. Because, that's all your edit was wasn't it? No one would suggest a quick edit was anything more nefarious than that.
Would they, Hussain?
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Hussain
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2010.08.27 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Bataav
Originally by: Hussain PS: the original thread is here http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1193982, note that the original post was heavly edited by mr. Hawke.
I'm not sure I see the relevance of Mr Hawke editing his opening comments here. But they certainly weren't "heavy". Perhaps you wish to discredit him, being opposed to his political dreams for Intaki as you are. If so it's a clumsy attempt.
If you actually take time to look at the details you can see the original post was made at 19:46:00. The edit being completed at 19:46:15. That's only 15 seconds, which is hardly long enough for a concerted effort of heavy editing, really is it?
As an interesting additional point relating to this it looks like you yourself edited your comments in this discussion. Submitting your responses at 18:23:00 only to complete your edit at 19:35:50. That's a whole 2 minutes, 50 seconds of changing what you have said.
How strange that after such "heavy editing" on your part you should wish to bring attention to someone else taking the time to correct a spelling mistake, perhaps or make something a little clearer for the reader. Because, that's all your edit was wasn't it? No one would suggest a quick edit was anything more nefarious than that.
Would they, Hussain?
I must appologize for the "heavy editing" part mr. Hawke did not edit his post due to any response recieved.
That mistake was due to too much multi-tasking and multi-reading.
As for MY editing, it camed to my attention that I was quoting mr. Hawkes words as belongings to The Cosmopolite, hence my editing (1 hour 2m and 50s later not 2m 50s as Bataav says).
For The Cosmopolite also my sincere appologies.
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Bataav
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2010.08.28 03:05:00 -
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Originally by: Hussain 1 hour 2m and 50s later not 2m 50s as Bataav says
Ah, it would seem I also stand corrected following such a mathamatical failure.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.08.29 13:33:00 -
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An interesting development relating to the Joint Statement has just come to light. We are currently, in co-operation with the other members of the Statement, investigating its extent, and I will personally release a public statement within the next few days. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Vechtor
Intaki Chartered Company
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Posted - 2010.08.29 13:54:00 -
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A relevant question with regard to this topic would be:
Why ILF in a "close relationship" with those two organizations and not IPI?
How does IPI stands on the issue or when ILF speaks for itself, it also speaks for IPI and for every other corporation inside the alliance?
Vechtor
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Saxon Hawke
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2010.08.30 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Vechtor Why ILF in a "close relationship" with those two organizations and not IPI? How does IPI stands on the issue or when ILF speaks for itself, it also speaks for IPI and for every other corporation inside the alliance?
Although we are bound by our common desire to see the lives of the Intaki improved, each member of the Intaki Prosperity Initiative is free to pursue their own interests. The alliance exists to facilitate greater cooperation in areas where our interests overlap.
Vechtor, as an Intaki patriot yourself you should understand that we do not easily give up our autonomy. Melibeus Trading and Siddhean Inc. maintain their own contracts and agreements with a number of corporations outside the alliance. The ILF does likewise.
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