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CopyCatz Caldari Brewery Research Ltd Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2010.08.21 18:11:00 - [1] Edited by: CopyCatz on 21/08/2010 18:18:22 So yesterday I arrived at the Koelner messe for a 2 day stay at the gamescom convention. The first thing I did ofcourse was find the CCP booth in the MMO hall. I read reports about last years presentation, but still it was a shocker to me. A small table with an even smaller laptop (while everyone else is showing off their games on 17 inch alienware machines..). One CCP guy and a visitor hovering over the laptop making impossible for other people to see what they were doing. There was however a larger lcd screen showing the butterfly effect promo. But in general people just walked by, only the occasional "hmm whats that game about". In the back a small shady room where the meetings took place I guess. It made me feel part of some niche game where the incrowd rather doesn't have new people interested in the game. I didn't really feel the need to go talk to the CCP person (they don't look like they want to talk much anyway, plus there wasn't even anything being handed out), but I would like to make some suggestions for next year: 1. Get a bigger booth. Put a display in with ship models. 2. Get more and bigger screens and show gameplay on it! 3. Give out goodies for crying out loud. Even the weirdest korean publishers had dozens of people in front of their booth because good looking ladies were handing out t-shirts and other useless stuff. It's amazing to see what people do there to get an ugly lanyard. 4. Hire nice looking ladies! 5. Hand out t-shirts! 6. Announce something of interest at the convention. A few hundred meters away the Wow boot (about 30 times bigger) had a queue of about 300 people wanting to see a preview of some new expansion. Combine with #5 for maximum queueing. Yes I am repeating myself but free stuff and girls seem to be the critical factors there to get attention for your products. There were some pretty horrible MMO games that had lots of people just hanging around for freebees. Eve doesn't deserve this.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.08.21 18:13:00 - [2] Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 21/08/2010 18:15:51 Already mentioned here. Have to say it doesn't exactly inspire confidence. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Spurty Caldari D00M. Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2010.08.21 18:15:00 - [3] So what you are saying is that CCP should have gotten buxom Icelandic beauties with the 4 race's symbols tattooed on their tatties and over 9000 more PVP action on large LCDs ? Not really a slap in the face, happy they even sent a guy with a laptop to be honest :-)
CopyCatz Caldari Brewery Research Ltd Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2010.08.21 18:17:00 - [4] Edited by: CopyCatz on 21/08/2010 18:17:22 Originally by: Professor Tarantula Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 21/08/2010 18:15:51 Already mentioned here. I know. But I wanted to convey my own experience and disappointment.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.08.21 18:23:00 - [5] Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 21/08/2010 18:26:24 Originally by: CopyCatz Edited by: CopyCatz on 21/08/2010 18:17:22 Originally by: Professor Tarantula Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 21/08/2010 18:15:51 Already mentioned here. I know. But I wanted to convey my own experience and disappointment. You were much kinder than he was. I don't expect them to spend a fortune on their booth, but a little more effort can't hurt. I mean, why even go if you're giving a bad impression? May as well just not attend. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2010.08.21 18:28:00 - [6] Seems like CCP treats these conventions as some mandatory chore instead of a good marketing opportunity. I don't see what was the point of sending anyone to the convention at all, since they clearly didn't plan on doing or showing anything there anyway.
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2010.08.21 19:20:00 - [7] Supposedly they're debuting some big new trailer at PAX. Maybe they'll make more of a showing there. Bit worried it'll turn out to be a trailer for Dust instead of Eve though.
AtheistOfFail Caldari	Posted - 2010.08.21 19:24:00 - [8] There is no EvE. Just Dust and Space Second Life.
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2010.08.21 19:37:00 - [9] Edited by: Intense Thinker on 21/08/2010 19:39:53 Edited by: Intense Thinker on 21/08/2010 19:38:30 CCP actively trying to keep the riff-raff out. Good on them for shielding us against the wowtards Originally by: CopyCatz Eve doesn't deserve this. So Eve deserves to be treated like a ***** instead? Edit #2: And Blizzard probably makes close to $1b a year so they can afford to spend a lot more. Signature locked for editing a moderator's warning. Zymurgist
Stick Cult	Posted - 2010.08.21 20:19:00 - [10] Edited by: Stick Cult on 21/08/2010 20:22:51 I, for one, am not insulted. More like I don't care. If going to a games convention and seeing a nice booth is what makes you hear about/want to play a game that's been around for 7 years, it's clearly not for you. I also prefer them to spend money on development, may that be Eve itself, Incarna, or Dust, than on a shiny booth. edit: Also, for the guy in the other thread complaining that CCP smells like beer... well no **, they live in Iceland, drinking beer is all they do! Originally by:** CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
HarrietMiers Native Freshfood	Posted - 2010.08.21 20:20:00 - [11] I, for one, am shocked CCP would neglect any aspect of their company. They seem like such thorough dependable people.
Tamarant	Posted - 2010.08.21 20:22:00 - [12] Edited by: Tamarant on 21/08/2010 20:22:51 http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/RedRose/DSC00151.JPG http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/RedRose/DSC00152.JPG Pictures of their booth
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.08.21 20:25:00 - [13] Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 21/08/2010 20:25:21 That actually doesn't look nearly as bad as i envisioned. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Stick Cult	Posted - 2010.08.21 20:26:00 - [14] Originally by: Tamarant Edited by: Tamarant on 21/08/2010 20:22:51 http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/RedRose/DSC00151.JPG http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/RedRose/DSC00152.JPG Pictures of their booth Just 404s... Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
coolzero Gallente FreeMiners of EVE - dutch devision	Posted - 2010.08.21 20:57:00 - [15] Originally by: Tamarant Edited by: Tamarant on 21/08/2010 20:22:51 http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/RedRose/DSC00151.JPG http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/RedRose/DSC00152.JPG Pictures of their booth is that all there is?? then i agrea with TS... Jack of all trades, master of none...
John Holt Caldari Celtic Dragon's	Posted - 2010.08.21 21:13:00 - [16] Edited by: John Holt on 21/08/2010 21:15:11 Interesting. I know EVE always has a big booth at GDC each year and they hand out free stuff, including tickets to their party. Guess they didn't see this one as being worthy of a big show. bTW at GDC they had three huge monitors running the game on Singularity, and people demoing the game. I was honored to be invited to demo the game for CCP a couple of years ago. It was a blast.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.08.21 21:17:00 - [17] I bet OP LARP's. When you say "fanboi" try to picture a fat man doing burlesque with 2 big ass fans that say CCP on one and HTFU on the other. Because that dude is me.
Minchurra Caldari Feudum Chalybis The Spire Collective	Posted - 2010.08.21 21:18:00 - [18] Edited by: Minchurra on 21/08/2010 21:18:55 Originally by: Tamarant Edited by: Tamarant on 21/08/2010 20:22:51 http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/RedRose/DSC00151.JPG Is that GM Nova on the left? Fakeedit: Fail quote. Realedit: Still fail quote.
Ryhss Caldari Ominous Corp Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2010.08.21 21:30:00 - [19] Originally by: Spurty So what you are saying is that CCP should have gotten buxom Icelandic beauties with the 4 race's symbols tattooed on their tatties and over 9000 more PVP action on large LCDs ? Not really a slap in the face, happy they even sent a guy with a laptop to be honest :-) Yes. [url=http://eve-kill.net?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=401687] [/url] What the smeging smeg?! Originally by: Gneeznow damn goons what a bunch of jerks!
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.08.21 21:44:00 - [20] Edited by: Liang Nuren on 21/08/2010 21:43:46 Originally by: Spurty So what you are saying is that CCP should have gotten buxom Icelandic beauties with the 4 race's symbols tattooed on their tatties and over 9000 more PVP action on large LCDs ? It seems if they wanted to showcase Eve's PVP circles, they could showcase mostly naked hairy fat old men laughing about raping the last poor guy who walked up to the table... just sayin. Its more like what happens in game. -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
Stick Cult	Posted - 2010.08.21 21:45:00 - [21] Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 21/08/2010 21:43:46 Originally by: Spurty So what you are saying is that CCP should have gotten buxom Icelandic beauties with the 4 race's symbols tattooed on their tatties and over 9000 more PVP action on large LCDs ? It seems if they wanted to showcase Eve's PVP circles, they could showcase mostly naked hairy fat old men laughing about raping the last poor guy who walked up to the table... just sayin. Its more like what happens in game. -Liang Well I'm sure the devs at the booth could be persuaded to take off some clothing for a few beers... Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Malcanis Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.08.21 21:46:00 - [22] Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 21/08/2010 21:43:46 Originally by: Spurty So what you are saying is that CCP should have gotten buxom Icelandic beauties with the 4 race's symbols tattooed on their tatties and over 9000 more PVP action on large LCDs ? It seems if they wanted to showcase Eve's PVP circles, they could showcase mostly naked hairy fat old men laughing about raping the last poor guy who walked up to the table... just sayin. Its more like what happens in game. -Liang I cant deny that I laughed at this, because it describes me so perfectly. Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players.
gfldex	Posted - 2010.08.21 22:05:00 - [23] Originally by: CopyCatz It made me feel part of some niche game where the incrowd rather doesn't have new people interested in the game. Bingo!
Zeke Mobius	Posted - 2010.08.21 22:15:00 - [24] Originally by: HarrietMiers I, for one, am shocked CCP would neglect any aspect of their company. They seem like such thorough dependable people.
Cailais Amarr THE ORDAINED	Posted - 2010.08.21 22:22:00 - [25] Thats an abysmal set up: it basically screams "dead product; not interested in marketing" Im trully stunned. I considered going to this - thank goodness I didnt waste the money; CCP certainly didnt. C. the hydrostatic capsule blog
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.08.21 23:13:00 - [26] I dunno, I think of this more of a 'we don't need to bribe players, our game is good and speaks for itself' Also, if you don't have anything big to promote I do not see the value of spending a lot of money on a booth. Focusing your spending for when DUST514/Incarna comes out at a big convention instead of some smalltime boring whatever convention sounds like a good plan to me. Sorry CCP didn't spend hundreds of dollars solely because you were there. Lastly, going to a video game convention to stare obscenely at chicks is really creepy. - It's not "Play through a pre-set story, become stronger, do endgame". Gameplay is open ended, and you make your own story. Unless you're too afraid of 'pvp grief' to do anything relevant
Cailais Amarr THE ORDAINED	Posted - 2010.08.21 23:28:00 - [27] Originally by: Vaal Erit I dunno, I think of this more of a 'we don't need to bribe players, our game is good and speaks for itself' Also, if you don't have anything big to promote I do not see the value of spending a lot of money on a booth. Focusing your spending for when DUST514/Incarna comes out at a big convention instead of some smalltime boring whatever convention sounds like a good plan to me. Sorry CCP didn't spend hundreds of dollars solely because you were there. Lastly, going to a video game convention to stare obscenely at chicks is really creepy. Thats true,its still a fairly large convention though. A small stand like that probably only cost in the region of $5k for floor space - so its not great shakes. C. the hydrostatic capsule blog
Bhattran	Posted - 2010.08.21 23:32:00 - [28] I've seen better booths for car polish. The pics make it look like a small game publisher just launched and is showing their first product. -------------------------------------------------------------- Fanboys would make great cult members.
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.08.21 23:41:00 - [29] Originally by: Bhattran The pics make it look like a small game publisher just launched and is showing their first product. You know now that you mention it............. that's exactly what they are. Seriously, why all the rage over a "crappy" booth? -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
Bhattran	Posted - 2010.08.22 00:01:00 - [30] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Bhattran The pics make it look like a small game publisher just launched and is showing their first product. You know now that you mention it............. that's exactly what they are. Seriously, why all the rage over a "crappy" booth? -Liang I personally don't really care, I just saw this and made my observations, people write that this convention is kind of a big deal or something so I'd expect a bit more flash or at least some of the EVE store merchandise on display, they don't have to give it away but maybe sell it, if they want or not, I can understand not wanting to sell stuff. It is just that the merchandise exists and all so why not show it off, it brings people in, shows them the 'depth' of the game/etc. -------------------------------------------------------------- Fanboys would make great cult members.

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