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Goose99
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Posted - 2010.08.24 18:19:00 -
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Propose a pvp arena for casual pvp in an controlled environment. Set number of opponents (1v1, 2v2, or uneven numbers if agreed upon), in an instance where others cannot interfere directly or indirectly (corpie blob, neut rr, or fleet bonus).
Considering the amount of jetcans with a single unit of ammo outside highsec stations, this feature is obviously wanted by many people. They have to make do with imperfect makeshift method, since we don't have a real arena. There may be many reasons why the practice is so prevalent, could be lack of time, unwillingness to roam through deserted lowsec hardly meeting a soul in hours, or just finding blobing (only form of pvp still existing in the wild) boring. If nothing else, it should ease server load by making undock jetcans in already high population systems go away.
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GaladDamodred
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Posted - 2010.08.24 18:21:00 -
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Runescape -------->
EVE = Sandbox
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2010.08.24 18:54:00 -
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There might be support for a duealing option between neutrals, so CONCORD doesn't interfere, but nothing really suggest there is significant ammount of support for an arena feature. On the contrary there is significant amount on people resisting any kind of arena feature. We know this because of the resistance this idea initiated when players found out, that CCP had tried and failed to implement such a feature.
Anyway not supported.
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Guy LeDuche
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Posted - 2010.08.24 19:12:00 -
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If only a mere fraction of the undocking gamer and jetcanners want this feature, there would be huge amount of support. Those who don't want to use it, don't have to. It's not mandatory. The only net effect in game would be moving the crowd at undocking port to their own arena, and maybe introduce pvp to a few carebears who wouldn't touch it otherwise. It won't have any effect on blobers.
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Goose99
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Posted - 2010.08.24 19:13:00 -
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Supporting my own topic. No downsides to it.
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GaladDamodred
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Posted - 2010.08.24 19:37:00 -
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The real problem with this idea is that it goes against everything that EVE tries to be, which is a "Sandbox" where there are no "rules" and "safe" ways of doing things, EVE tries to mimic real life in this regard and there is nothing comparable to what you are requesting in real life as it would require a controlled environment.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.08.24 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Guy LeDuche If only a mere fraction of the undocking gamer and jetcanners want this feature, there would be huge amount of support. Those who don't want to use it, don't have to. It's not mandatory. The only net effect in game would be moving the crowd at undocking port to their own arena, and maybe introduce pvp to a few carebears who wouldn't touch it otherwise. It won't have any effect on blobers.
"Undocking gamer" lolwut. Canflippers and other people do not want this feature, trick-killing noobs with mining fits in hi sec is far different from a setup engagement where both people agree to pvp. Also this would be a terrible introduction to pvp as an arena would have almost nothing in common with "real pvp".
An arena is out of place in a game like EVE. In EVE you are constantly in danger and always at risk, even if that risk is very low. Adding in no-risk mechanics and instances to EVE is the exact opposite of what the developers are trying to do with EVE and would destroy what makes EVE unique. - It's not "Play through a pre-set story, become stronger, do endgame". Gameplay is open ended, and you make your own story. Unless you're too afraid of 'pvp grief' to do anything relevant |
Guy LeDuche
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Posted - 2010.08.24 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: GaladDamodred The real problem with this idea is that it goes against everything that EVE tries to be, which is a "Sandbox" where there are no "rules" and "safe" ways of doing things, EVE tries to mimic real life in this regard and there is nothing comparable to what you are requesting in real life as it would require a controlled environment.
If you take things to extremes, there won't be a highsec.
All the arena would do is take ppl playing undocking jetcan games and give them a place to do what they're trying to do by choice anyway, sandbox style. No one is forcing you to fight in an arena. Let whomever wants it, use it. Without it, those same ppl will continue ejecting cans trying to create a makeshift arena, failing, and adding to the clutter at undock ports. You cannot force them to join blobs and pvp your way, they'll just ignore you and keep ejecting cans instead. Let them do what they want, sandbox style.
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Cearain
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.08.26 15:41:00 -
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I would like it if players could construct arenas. It would add something to industry. They could have sentry guns fire on anyone that tried to "interupt" the match in question or add ecm towers. These things would make it more expensive and it would add to industry. I wouldn't even care if they were only allowed in low or null sec. Certain alliances/corps could buy the arena and have tournaemnts for profit or publicity. Let the players run the show and I think the arena idea is great.
I do agree witth the op that casual player need better access to pvp. -Cearain
Make fw occupancy pvp instead of pve: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906 |
Libra's Slave
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Posted - 2010.08.26 20:20:00 -
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Note: This is not world of warcrack.
This is EvE - where ships cost time to fly, and brains to stay alive. (Put that in your pipe and smoke it)
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sue AGPlant
Minmatar Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2010.08.27 12:29:00 -
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Im prety sure i read a thread similar to this a while back where someone from CCP stated that they tried to impliment something like this once and the code base told them to **** off. (cant remember the exact details and dont have time to look for it now my lunch break is just coming to an end)
Not supported if this were to come into being then it would eventualy end up that ALL pvp would happen there just due to human nature ie i cant be arsed hunting for that idiot ill just go to the arena and eventualy theres no one to hunt they are all at the arena.
CCP: destroying the game we love 1 nerf at a time.
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Cearain
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.08.27 14:37:00 -
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IĈm not saying having ccp create an arena is a good idea. I think it would be better if players did that and the fights would be protected by gate guns or what not that the players who build the arena would have to buy. The arena could of course be destroyed.
But I do think eve definitely needs some way to bring decent pvp to players who want it quicker. There are numerous ways to do this. CCP just needs to acknowledge that warping and jumping and scanning and warping and jumping for hours in order to get blobbed in the end, is not helping the game. They can then forcus on how to make certain mechanics so people who want decent pvp action can get it more quickly.
-Cearain
Make fw occupancy pvp instead of pve: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906 |
Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.08.27 18:27:00 -
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As long as I can scan down your arena and drop a discopoc into the middle and blow everything up, okay.
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