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Bhattran	Posted - 2010.09.02 04:50:00 - [31] Originally by: AFK Cloaker DUN DUN DUN!!! -------------------------------------------------------------- Fanboys would make great cult members.
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.09.02 04:50:00 - [32] Shh! quiet, you cant do anything, theres an AFK cloaker in the thread! Originally by: CCP Shadow Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
Mr SmartGuy	Posted - 2010.09.02 04:52:00 - [33] Every time I see something from the troll/repeated-to-hell-and-back list of suggestions, I'm going to post the same chunk of text and just bold the one from the original post just so that OP can see how unoriginal/boring/<random insult about intelligence> he is. Enjoy your read: Lag, nerfing supercapitals, ability to paint your ship, changing security statuses of the systems, fixing factional warfare, removing local, nerfing afk-cloakers, removing learning skills, adding AB bonus to assault frigs, boosting blasters, boosting rockets, fixing bounties, adding PvP arena, NAP coalitions, improving UI, boosting piracy, nerfing piracy, changing wardec mechanic in highsec against carebears, boosting destroyers, removing of t2 BPOs, nerfing of ECM, changing of your in game character name, adding of small anchorable structures, redesigning POSes, chainging of cyno effect, adding trails, walking in stations and ships, development of DUST for PC, not developing DUST at all, developing Incarna, not developing Incarna at all, changing CONCORD, fixing planetary interaction, training multiple characters per account, expanding 0.0 space, making bookmarks visible in space, nerfing insurance for suicide gankers, (not)adding RL ads in game, making of highsec carebear heaven free of PvP, donating destroyed PLEXes to some random charity organisation, removing macro miners/ratters/mission runners, nerfing/removing ninja salvaging/looting, adding capital ships in empire again, nerfing Dramiel, allowing POS theft, fixing the forums and at the end, asking CCP to commit to excelence to cover anything else.
Alara IonStorm Agent-Orange	Posted - 2010.09.02 04:54:00 - [34] Originally by: Mr SmartGuy Every time I see something from the troll/repeated-to-hell-and-back list of suggestions, I'm going to post the same chunk of text and just bold the one from the original post just so that OP can see how unoriginal/boring/<random insult about intelligence> he is. Enjoy your read: Lag, nerfing supercapitals, ability to paint your ship, changing security statuses of the systems, fixing factional warfare, removing local, nerfing afk-cloakers, removing learning skills, adding AB bonus to assault frigs, boosting blasters, boosting rockets, fixing bounties, adding PvP arena, NAP coalitions, improving UI, boosting piracy, nerfing piracy, changing wardec mechanic in highsec against carebears, boosting destroyers, removing of t2 BPOs, nerfing of ECM, changing of your in game character name, adding of small anchorable structures, redesigning POSes, chainging of cyno effect, adding trails, walking in stations and ships, development of DUST for PC, not developing DUST at all, developing Incarna, not developing Incarna at all, changing CONCORD, fixing planetary interaction, training multiple characters per account, expanding 0.0 space, making bookmarks visible in space, nerfing insurance for suicide gankers, (not)adding RL ads in game, making of highsec carebear heaven free of PvP, donating destroyed PLEXes to some random charity organisation, removing macro miners/ratters/mission runners, nerfing/removing ninja salvaging/looting, adding capital ships in empire again, nerfing Dramiel, allowing POS theft, fixing the forums and at the end, asking CCP to commit to excelence to cover anything else. Sir I just want you to know your my hero! -- Tactical Responder who is Organized and a Leading-edge Linguist
Umega Solis Mensa	Posted - 2010.09.02 04:55:00 - [35] Dear OP, There are other tactics and strategys in this 'sandbox' game besides pew-pew. Some, lead to more pew-pew.. some, help avoid it. Depends on the circumstances and what people are trying to accomplish. Give an actual valid reason as to why cloakers should be nerfed and an aspect that creates a wide variety of different potential scenarios be removed, please? Here is a good fix to what appears to be your problem.. delayed null-low local (I'd prefer it in highsec too, personally). Then, you won't even know they are there to begin with.. crisis averted! Well, unless they want you to know.. then it just gets even more fun. ---------------------------------------- -Treat the EVE Market like you're a pimp and it is your 'employee'.. freely fondle it as you wish and make it pay you for it-
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 04:56:00 - [36] Originally by: Mr SmartGuy Every time I see something from the troll/r and at the end, asking CCP to commit to excelence to cover anything else. It's a fair request.. But please your donations are attracting more reads per reply. I just want an unfair game mechanic balanced out. Why wouldn't you? (No, dont bore me...) Raj.
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 04:58:00 - [37] Originally by: Umega Dear OP, Here is a good fix to what appears to be your problem.. delayed null-low local (I'd prefer it in highsec too, personally). Then, you won't even know they are there to begin with.. crisis averted! Well, unless they want you to know.. then it just gets even more fun. Interesting.. A cross thread hijack. Raj.
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.09.02 04:58:00 - [38] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Originally by: Mr SmartGuy Every time I see something from the troll/r and at the end, asking CCP to commit to excelence to cover anything else. It's a fair request.. But please your donations are attracting more reads per reply. I just want an unfair game mechanic balanced out. Why wouldn't you? (No, dont bore me...) Raj. ok, lets pretend for a moment.... Instead of afk cloaker, we have corporate spy. Is corporate spy any less dangerous than an afk cloaker? Nope. Does he get in pretty much the same way, just as easily? If not easier. Originally by: CCP Shadow Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
Alara IonStorm Agent-Orange	Posted - 2010.09.02 04:58:00 - [39] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Originally by: Mr SmartGuy Every time I see something from the troll/r and at the end, asking CCP to commit to excelence to cover anything else. It's a fair request.. But please your donations are attracting more reads per reply. I just want an unfair game mechanic balanced out. Why wouldn't you? (No, dont bore me...) Raj. Tons of reads and look at all the support! Know one thinks your ret***ed! You win EVE! -- Tactical Responder who is Organized and a Leading-edge Linguist
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 05:01:00 - [40] Originally by: Lance Fighter Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Originally by: Mr SmartGuy Every time I see something from the troll/r and at the end, asking CCP to commit to excelence to cover anything else. It's a fair request.. But please your donations are attracting more reads per reply. I just want an unfair game mechanic balanced out. Why wouldn't you? (No, dont bore me...) Raj. ok, lets pretend for a moment.... Instead of afk cloaker, we have corporate spy. Is corporate spy any less dangerous than an afk cloaker? Nope. Does he get in pretty much the same way, just as easily? If not easier. Yes, but he doesnt stop anyone from being able to enjoy the game because he's employing a totally un-defeatable tactic. See? Maybe you used a bad metaphore there. Raj.

Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.09.02 05:04:00 - [41] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Originally by: Lance Fighter Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Originally by: Mr SmartGuy Every time I see something from the troll/r and at the end, asking CCP to commit to excelence to cover anything else. It's a fair request.. But please your donations are attracting more reads per reply. I just want an unfair game mechanic balanced out. Why wouldn't you? (No, dont bore me...) Raj. ok, lets pretend for a moment.... Instead of afk cloaker, we have corporate spy. Is corporate spy any less dangerous than an afk cloaker? Nope. Does he get in pretty much the same way, just as easily? If not easier. Yes, but he doesnt stop anyone from being able to enjoy the game because he's employing a totally un-defeatable tactic. See? Maybe you used a bad metaphore there. Raj. Nope, instead a single act can destroy the entire alliance. That not stopping anyone from being able to enjoy the game at all, is it? also, stop posting inside quotes without differentiating between your writing and someone elses writing. Its bad etiquette, and further reinforces that you are a troll. Originally by: CCP Shadow Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 05:06:00 - [42] Originally by: Alara IonStorm Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Originally by: Mr SmartGuy Every time I see something from the troll/r and at the end, asking CCP to commit to excelence to cover anything else. It's a fair request.. But please your donations are attracting more reads per reply. I just want an unfair game mechanic balanced out. Why wouldn't you? (No, dont bore me...) Raj. Tons of reads and look at all the support! Know one thinks your ret***ed! You win EVE! For you this is about posting as many abusive remarks as you can to any OP willing to oblige.. For me it's about balance. I am also a realist I know theres virtually no chance CCP changing things I've been here long enough to know that! I also know that of the many who read and support me maybe only one or two will actually support by typing because the professional flak from people like yourselves is pretty off putting (And sad..). Raj.
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.09.02 05:10:00 - [43] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox the professional flak from people like yourselves is pretty off putting (And sad..). Raj. ... im not sure if i should be taking this as a compliment or an insult Originally by: CCP Shadow Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 05:12:00 - [44] Lance (Boil?) Lol picking at the ettiquette reveals you as a true post planter. Lool. Busting an alliance hardly destroys it. If it's people are strong and motivated, well, it'll start making heaps of isk the very next day so that metaphore does.. Really Suck. 2 from 10 think of another (Teacher.) Raj.
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 05:15:00 - [45] Originally by: Lance Fighter Originally by: Rajheen Orlox the professional flak from people like yourselves is pretty off putting (And sad..). Raj. ... im not sure if i should be taking this as a compliment or an insult Just take it. I must take a break and go to bed.. I will return tomorrow and see what's happening here.. Dont be too harsh it demeans your arguments. Raj.
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.09.02 05:15:00 - [46] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Lance (Boil?) Lol picking at the ettiquette reveals you as a true post planter. Lool. Busting an alliance hardly destroys it. If it's people are strong and motivated, well, it'll start making heaps of isk the very next day so that metaphore does.. Really Suck. 2 from 10 think of another (Teacher.) Raj. kk. Raj (broski?) Lol ignoring ettiquette reveals you as a true poast playah. LOOL. AFK cloaking in a system hardly renders it useless. If it's people are strong and motivated, well, they will start making heaps of isk that very day so that metaphore does.. Really suck. -12/10. -Lance Originally by: CCP Shadow Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 05:22:00 - [47] Edited by: Rajheen Orlox on 02/09/2010 05:25:27 Originally by: Lance Fighter Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Lance (Boil?) Lol picking at the ettiquette reveals you as a true post planter. Lool. Busting an alliance hardly destroys it. If it's people are strong and motivated, well, it'll start making heaps of isk the very next day so that metaphore does.. Really Suck. 2 from 10 think of another (Teacher.) Raj. kk. Raj (broski?) Lol ignoring ettiquette reveals you as a true poast playah. LOOL. AFK cloaking in a system hardly renders it useless. If it's people are strong and motivated, well, they will start making heaps of isk that very day so that metaphore does.. Really suck. -12/10. -Lance Lol couldnt resist one final reply. You forget that in every single alliance (Worth it's salt..) there is a HUGE amount of Empire pilots making isk in the markets and the belts and through PI now and missions etc. No alliance dies because of a single event unless that includes a politically destructive force that breaks its membership of economically seperate Corporations apart. The Point? A single Cloaky-Griefer has the ability to stagnate a system by simply being there undetectable for unreasonable lengths of game-time using a tactic that has no counter tactic. It's unbalanced. Nil points for the metaphore. Goodnight. 07! Raj.
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.09.02 05:22:00 - [48] any alliance worth its salt can deal with an afk cloaker. Nuff said. Originally by: CCP Shadow Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 05:27:00 - [49] Originally by: Lance Fighter any alliance worth its salt can deal with an afk cloaker. Nuff said. No they cannot... You cannot tell me how nor can anyone. There is no counter tactic. It's unbalanced. Raj.
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.09.02 05:30:00 - [50] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Originally by: Lance Fighter any alliance worth its salt can deal with an afk cloaker. Nuff said. No they cannot... You cannot tell me how nor can anyone. There is no counter tactic. It's unbalanced. Raj. Says it all really. Originally by: CCP Shadow Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.

Alara IonStorm Agent-Orange	Posted - 2010.09.02 05:34:00 - [51] Originally by: Lance Fighter Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Originally by: Lance Fighter any alliance worth its salt can deal with an afk cloaker. Nuff said. No they cannot... You cannot tell me how nor can anyone. There is no counter tactic. It's unbalanced. Raj. Says it all really. Recycling is Pro!!! -- Tactical Responder who is Organized and a Leading-edge Linguist
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.09.02 05:36:00 - [52] Originally by: Alara IonStorm Originally by: Lance Fighter Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Originally by: Lance Fighter any alliance worth its salt can deal with an afk cloaker. Nuff said. No they cannot... You cannot tell me how nor can anyone. There is no counter tactic. It's unbalanced. Raj. Says it all really. Recycling is Pro!!! its still true Originally by: CCP Shadow Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
MajorBJ Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.09.02 05:40:00 - [53] you do realize that bombers are paper ****in thin right? Any ratter with brains and that doesn't afk can pop it. well except my nber bomber ofcourse
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.09.02 05:48:00 - [54] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Come on CCP, surely you can admit that almost everyone is sick and tired of being locked down by some griefer in a system Why should CCP admit something they don't know anything about and which is probably not true? Oh and cloakers can only lock down a system if you let them to. Quote: in itself afk cloaking is a strategy that cannot be beaten/defeated at all Sure it can: don't let yourself be locked down. Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Busting an alliance hardly destroys it. If it's people are strong and motivated, well, it'll start making heaps of isk the very next day àyou mean like how an alliance of strong and motivated people don't get their knickers in a twist over someone who just sits in the system and does nothing? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Tamarant	Posted - 2010.09.02 06:19:00 - [55] If you know that he's AFK, just keep ratting/mining? If you are not sure, just keep ratting/mining and have a counter to his ship ready? Form a fleet with your mates and help each other..
Antoine Lefevre Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.09.02 06:31:00 - [56] everyone dock theres an afk cloaker in our thread!
alittlebirdy	Posted - 2010.09.02 06:45:00 - [57] Just because you are too scared to play the game with someone else in local who is afk cloaked really is not a reason to change anything. Grow some balls or get some friends and then one person really wonÆt be so scary anymore. Probing out a cloaked ship is lol, anything that can fit a covo cloak could just go full speed to nothingà you get the ship warp and by the time you warp in, the ships already 7k+ off 0. Not afk is just wtf pointlessà
Aralieus Amarr Shadowbane Syndicate	Posted - 2010.09.02 06:46:00 - [58] stfu already Recruiting
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.09.02 07:09:00 - [59] Make local delayed local and this issue goes away. To the OP, sorry that your bots are docking up with +1 in local. Try playing the game sometime.
Opertone Caldari Metalworks Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.09.02 07:18:00 - [60] ahhh, cloaking griefers - by that you mean 1 ship cloaked in local vs 40 residents. OK, but a cloaking boat does not necessarily mean a pvp ready ship. It can be just a cloaking badger. The only cloaking monster you need to worry about is a T3 - it has sufficient DPS to kill a target. Curse or stealth bomber is another example of covops ready, pvp ships. I am more cautious now.



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