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Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.09.02 14:47:00 - [151] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Edited by: Rajheen Orlox on 02/09/2010 05:28:52 Originally by: Lance Fighter any alliance worth its salt can deal with an afk cloaker. Nuff said. No they cannot... You cannot tell me how nor can anyone. There is no counter tactic. It's unbalanced. Raj. Yes, there is. decloak them and quit crying. When you say "fanboi" try to picture a fat man doing burlesque with 2 big ass fans that say CCP on one and HTFU on the other. Because that dude is me.
Loki Sei	Posted - 2010.09.02 14:49:00 - [152] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox All those clever sh+ts and not ONE of them can actually come up with a way to defeat a Cloaking Griefer (Reveal his position, trap him, kill him..) because they all KNOW the REAL argument isnt about "Intelligence Gathering" or being a carebear.. It's about them having an exploit that pays them to sit in a system (Usually one without a station.. Maybe a POS or 2..) and put a stop to corp production such as mining and just be there for the unstoppable "Grief" factor. this ruins the game for the majority of players in that system. Why? Because Cloaky Griefing is the only tactic that has NO counter Tactic. They know this. They use this. They profit from it. the game is unalanced for those of us who can do nothing against them. they tell us all there's lots we can do. 1 Billion isk to the person who can reveal a determined Cloaky Griefer succesfully time after time.. As long as the game isn't modiified to fix it, the isk is safe. Raj. First, you need to change the term to semi-AFK Griefer, cause we all know there is nothing to fear from a true AFK griefer. Know why are there no 23/7 AFK greifers in W-Space? Cause there is no point since we cant see them in W-space. So easy solution to your issue is to remove real time local chat. AHHH, but you dont WANT that, because it would make you even less comfortable running anoms in your Golum. No you want a way to find/kill something that you should not be seeing in the first place. And I would like you to post some kill mails where these repeated fleets keep hot dropping you. I expect it is your FEAR of these hot drops and not a series of actual hot drops that has you so worried. Just remember that once you accept the fact you are going to die, the fear of dieing loses its grip on you and you can do your job.
Freyya Advanced Planetary Exports Intergalactic Exports Group	Posted - 2010.09.02 14:54:00 - [153] Edited by: Freyya on 02/09/2010 14:57:24 Originally by: Rajheen Orlox All those clever sh+ts and not ONE of them can actually come up with a way to defeat a Cloaking Griefer (Reveal his position, trap him, kill him..) 1 Billion isk to the person who can reveal a determined Cloaky Griefer succesfully time after time.. Raj. Ok, you keep changing the rules; 1st it was a way to reveal the cloaker, now it's time after time again. Anyways, send me my bill as i linked a killmail on page 3 that shows you how to do it. null Grief the griefer Provide a juicy target which he knows he can take or escape if it goes wrong, cloak a bomber next to it, wait till he makes a funrun or actually engages and shoot the crap out of him. If he doesn't take the bait after several belts/whatever then he's actually afk and thus nothing to worry about at that time. What also helps is to then have a few friends in system and this bit is important; They are ratting in PVP TANKED SHIPS INSTEAD OF YOUR COOKY CUTTER NPC FITS and can warp (stay in same fleet) in whenever sh+t hits the fan. They are making isk and are on standby in case. That's 2 ways to reveal, trap and kill a cloaker. Now i'm not greedy but i'll take the 1 bil instead of 2 for 2 ways to do it. Those solutions work every time after time so put up or shut up. The ball is now in your court. /me starts to wait on several more excuses to avoid putting up. ___________ NOW COLLECTING ISD AND CCP AUTOGRAPHS It'll be worth something someday. -Rauth
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 14:56:00 - [154] Originally by: Ana Vyr "OK, here I am to ask CCP why they won't introduce a mechanism, a skillset that players can use to remove nuisance Cloakers who are only there to ruin the gameplay of other players who are trying to enjoy this game that they pay good money for?" You mean sort of like how gate campers, scammers, macroers, and suicide gankers ruin the gameplay of others who paid good money to play? Go figure. Cold harsh world remember? I agree that it's completely lame gameplay, but so are all those other things. You miss the point with classic alacrity ducking the real purpose of this thread as many others have because it's about an exploitable imbalance that cannot be defeated. It's about the exploit of a game mechanic (Cloaky Griefing..)that cannot be defeated. None of the above is even related to the problem, and isn't valid as an argument, I have no problem with them so, dont associate me with them please. Raj.
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:00:00 - [155] Originally by: Cipher Jones Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Edited by: Rajheen Orlox on 02/09/2010 05:28:52 Originally by: Lance Fighter any alliance worth its salt can deal with an afk cloaker. Nuff said. No they cannot... You cannot tell me how nor can anyone. There is no counter tactic. It's unbalanced. Raj. Yes, there is. decloak them and quit crying. Cypher even you in your great magnitudes of dumbness and incredible abusive personality couldn't earn yourself a billion telling me how to achieve this holy grail could you? Thought not. Raj.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:02:00 - [156] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox It's about the exploit of a game mechanic (Cloaky Griefing..)that cannot be defeated. You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means. Where is the "exploit?" What is the exploit? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
DNSBLACK Gallente Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:04:00 - [157] Edited by: DNSBLACK on 02/09/2010 15:04:54 Originally by: Rajheen Orlox All those clever sh+ts and not ONE of them can actually come up with a way to defeat a Cloaking Griefer (Reveal his position, trap him, kill him..) because they all KNOW the REAL argument isnt about "Intelligence Gathering" or being a carebear.. It's about them having an exploit that pays them to sit in a system (Usually one without a station.. Maybe a POS or 2..) and put a stop to corp production such as mining and just be there for the unstoppable "Grief" factor. this ruins the game for the majority of players in that system. Why? Because Cloaky Griefing is the only tactic that has NO counter Tactic. They know this. They use this. They profit from it. the game is unalanced for those of us who can do nothing against them. they tell us all there's lots we can do. 1 Billion isk to the person who can reveal a determined Cloaky Griefer succesfully time after time.. As long as the game isn't modiified to fix it, the isk is safe. Raj. I have a question did he have to decloak to kill you? If he didnt then I need to train those skills that allowed that guy to kill you when he was cloaked. I think that may be an exploit. Seriosly, I will expand my point by saying " I have never died to a AFK player, nor have I ever died to a cloaked ship" Everyone who has ever killed me has either been at there computer or in a ship that I could see.
Riedle Minmatar Wayne's TV and Appliances	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:05:00 - [158] You owe Freyya One Billion ISK click here
Freyya Advanced Planetary Exports Intergalactic Exports Group	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:08:00 - [159] QUoting again just in case you missed my post just now or are willfully ignoring it. Also fixed link since my linking skills failed @ page 3 bye griefer Originally by: Freyya Edited by: Freyya on 02/09/2010 14:57:24 Originally by: Rajheen Orlox All those clever sh+ts and not ONE of them can actually come up with a way to defeat a Cloaking Griefer (Reveal his position, trap him, kill him..) 1 Billion isk to the person who can reveal a determined Cloaky Griefer succesfully time after time.. Raj. Ok, you keep changing the rules; 1st it was a way to reveal the cloaker, now it's time after time again. Anyways, send me my bill as i linked a killmail on page 3 that shows you how to do it. null Grief the griefer Provide a juicy target which he knows he can take or escape if it goes wrong, cloak a bomber next to it, wait till he makes a funrun or actually engages and shoot the crap out of him. If he doesn't take the bait after several belts/whatever then he's actually afk and thus nothing to worry about at that time. What also helps is to then have a few friends in system and this bit is important; They are ratting in PVP TANKED SHIPS INSTEAD OF YOUR COOKY CUTTER NPC FITS and can warp (stay in same fleet) in whenever sh+t hits the fan. They are making isk and are on standby in case. That's 2 ways to reveal, trap and kill a cloaker. Now i'm not greedy but i'll take the 1 bil instead of 2 for 2 ways to do it. Those solutions work every time after time so put up or shut up. The ball is now in your court. /me starts to wait on several more excuses to avoid putting up. ___________ NOW COLLECTING ISD AND CCP AUTOGRAPHS It'll be worth something someday. -Rauth
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:12:00 - [160] Originally by: Loki Sei First, you need to change the term to semi-AFK Griefer, cause we all know there is nothing to fear from a true AFK griefer. Know why are there no 23/7 AFK greifers in W-Space? Cause there is no point since we cant see them in W-space. So easy solution to your issue is to remove real time local chat. AHHH, but you dont WANT that, because it would make you even less comfortable running anoms in your Golum. No you want a way to find/kill something that you should not be seeing in the first place. And I would like you to post some kill mails where these repeated fleets keep hot dropping you. I expect it is your FEAR of these hot drops and not a series of actual hot drops that has you so worried. Just remember that once you accept the fact you are going to die, the fear of dieing loses its grip on you and you can do your job. I have actually dropped the term "AFK" deliberately for the last few posts reasoning (Like your very quick self..) that I just dont know if they are (AFK) or not. The rest of your post doesnt even help address the imbalance that exists in Cloaky Griefing and once again like others in this post just tries to HI-JACK the thread away from its true (Determined) purpose. Cloaky Griefing is a imbalance that has no tactic that can be used to defeat it. It's out of kilter and CCP PLEASE ignore these self-interested vocal supporters of an obviously dodgy game exploit and give us THE TOOLS to fight it fairly. Raj.

CommmanderInChief Comply Or Die	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:12:00 - [161] lol its funny hearing all these guys who have certainly no experience of cloakies. Cloakies are a pain in the backside. They dont agress when ppl are in system, mainly. they are happy to sit it out, even log off in a system. Corps cannot rat, mine etc for fear of getting ganked. Cloakies do not usually turn up solo, its mainly in agang so even if you do have a cloaked SB they still gonna kill it, so ppl dont take the risk. need to seriously have a counter against these, I even think that specific skills, specific ship to specifcally probe out cloakies on a chance basis is required. nuff said
Pentinor Corp 1 Allstars QQ Connoisseur's	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:13:00 - [162] Sounds like the op is mad he can't rat in peace....pro tip...go 1 jump over. Problem solved. Signature locked. Please file a petition to discuss the matter - CCP Fallout
DNSBLACK Gallente Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:16:00 - [163] How to kill a griefing cloaker: 1. Wait till he decloaks. 2. Fire Gun or missle. 3. Tank his damage out put. 4. If he has friends come in make sure you have friends who will come to your rescue. 5. Fight it out. PVP is another term for it. 6. Retreat if you think you are going to lose or do what so many do so well from high sec die in a nice explosion and learn from the engagement and try again. Can I have the isk please or is that to complicated for you
Razzor Death Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:16:00 - [164] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox OK, here I am to ask CCP why they won't introduce a mechanism, a skillset that players can use to remove nuisance Cloakers who are only there to ruin the gameplay of other players who are trying to enjoy this game that they pay good money for? Come on CCP, surely you can admit that almost everyone is sick and tired of being locked down by some griefer in a system when in this game there are many ways available to give us skillsets that can make the balance a little more even. Cloaking griefers are not players in the whole sense of the word. They are spoiling the game's strategy because in itself afk cloaking is a strategy that cannot be beaten/defeated at all and that is unfair. You have balanced many other things in the game and for every armor or shield or power supply there is a way to defeat or enhance, but when it comes to cloaking and going afk nothing can be done and many players are throwing good money after bad on this game to log in and find yet again gametime wasted day after day by the same old cloaky-griefers. DO SOMETHING TO STOP THIS!! PLEASE!!!! Raj. ahahahahahahaha omg you're terrible, really you dont belong in 0.0 go back to high sec. Difference between a Carebear alliance/corp and a pvp alliance/corp. Cloaky griefer comes into system - Carebears dock up and cry like little **gots. Cloaky griefer comes into system - pvps fleet up and send out a bait ship whilst they sit around him in recons waiting for him to bite, After they realise there is no bite they determine he is AFK and everyone continues to make money but in fleet ready to react to any recons or black ops dropped. You are litrally the meaning of terrible and you don't belong out of high sec. Get out. -------------------------------------------------- I'm posting in your thread and I didn't even read the OP v0v*
Mac Maniac Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:17:00 - [165] Coming from someone that has lost his fair share of faction fit pve golems.. I can tell you only one thing is required to defeat an afk cloaker.. It's called.... your brain. Try using it. The solution is: MOVE TO ANOTHER SYSTEM. If he does not follow you, then you can happily carebear in your new system. If he does follow you then he is NOT afk and you are being actively hunted. Last but not least I would like to point out that you have now made painted a gigantic bullseye on yourself for every afker/griefer/ganker out there. All of them now know that you run fancy faction fit golems. Not a wise decision IMHO.
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:26:00 - [166] Originally by: Freyya Edited by: Freyya on 02/09/2010 14:57:24 Ok, you keep changing the rules; 1st it was a way to reveal the cloaker, now it's time after time again. Anyways, send me my bill as i linked a killmail on page 3 that shows you how to do it. null Grief the griefer Provide a juicy target which he knows he can take or escape if it goes wrong, cloak a bomber next to it, wait till he makes a funrun or actually engages and shoot the crap out of him. If he doesn't take the bait after several belts/whatever then he's actually afk and thus nothing to worry about at that time. What also helps is to then have a few friends in system and this bit is important; They are ratting in PVP TANKED SHIPS INSTEAD OF YOUR COOKY CUTTER NPC FITS and can warp (stay in same fleet) in whenever sh+t hits the fan. They are making isk and are on standby in case. That's 2 ways to reveal, trap and kill a cloaker. Now i'm not greedy but i'll take the 1 bil instead of 2 for 2 ways to do it. Those solutions work every time after time so put up or shut up. The ball is now in your court. /me starts to wait on several more excuses to avoid putting up. Pointless post you just made that answered nothing. Your tactics rely on the Cloaky griefer uncloaking himself or changing what hes doing to satisfy your "Baiting " tactics.. Oh, Oh, here's some cheese. Oh he didnt take it. Guess that's a good tactic huh? Oh hang on lets fly into a rat infested level eight plex and be in pvp ships. - OOh thats not good my PvP setup dont work too good in here. Oh lol he hot dropped a dozen others on top of me and because the rats were targetting me too I got var-nigh insta popped. (Along with all my friends who came here to run a plex..) in their seriously weakened ships. For fun you know. That thing we all do this game for. Oh that cant happen when you have ships that cannot be detected at any time and can call in dozens of others when they like (Or not..) but we dont know that because we cant see them, dont know their shiptype or even if they're afk or awake. Thats a bent mechanic. I owe you nothing. You cannot even reveal a Cloaky Griefer by design. My isk will be safe (Oh and when they do change it I naturally withdraw the offer..) You have no intelligent argument. 1 Bil to reveal, catch and kill reguarly Cloaky Griefers. Come collect. It's safe. Raj.
BoBoZoBo Foundation	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:29:00 - [167] Once again - How do you determine a cloaker is AFK How is an AFK cloaker a threat? How does an individual who is AFK lock you down How does an individual who is AFK observe you How does an individual who is AFK report on your activity Notice - no "?" - Rhetorical I agree that the cloak/covert system could be made more fun. Maybe giving SOV held system a type of scanning system that can detect the general location of a covert ship. But then there should be counter-counters. Skill and equipment based. ========================= Minister of Propaganda - Operator 9
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:29:00 - [168] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Rajheen Orlox It's about the exploit of a game mechanic (Cloaky Griefing..)that cannot be defeated. You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means. Where is the "exploit?" What is the exploit? I agree but I cannot think of another word that describes the use of this ommission in balance when the mod was introduced. When it's used purely as a form of Grief I think that "Exploit.." suits it more than any other until it's fixed. Raj.
Razzor Death Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:30:00 - [169] I hope the cloaky afkers kill your corp. You deserve no less -------------------------------------------------- I'm posting in your thread and I didn't even read the OP v0v
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:33:00 - [170] Originally by: Riedle You owe Freyya One Billion ISK Your analysis of freyyas claim is weak and greedy. Sieze on something that makes sense. I ask that someone show me a method to repeatedly unveil, trap, and kill Cloaky Griefers who use the one undefeatable tactic in the game to profit. The Isk is very safe. Raj.

Freyya Advanced Planetary Exports Intergalactic Exports Group	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:33:00 - [171] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Originally by: Freyya Edited by: Freyya on 02/09/2010 14:57:24 Ok, you keep changing the rules; 1st it was a way to reveal the cloaker, now it's time after time again. Anyways, send me my bill as i linked a killmail on page 3 that shows you how to do it. null Grief the griefer Provide a juicy target which he knows he can take or escape if it goes wrong, cloak a bomber next to it, wait till he makes a funrun or actually engages and shoot the crap out of him. If he doesn't take the bait after several belts/whatever then he's actually afk and thus nothing to worry about at that time. What also helps is to then have a few friends in system and this bit is important; They are ratting in PVP TANKED SHIPS INSTEAD OF YOUR COOKY CUTTER NPC FITS and can warp (stay in same fleet) in whenever sh+t hits the fan. They are making isk and are on standby in case. That's 2 ways to reveal, trap and kill a cloaker. Now i'm not greedy but i'll take the 1 bil instead of 2 for 2 ways to do it. Those solutions work every time after time so put up or shut up. The ball is now in your court. /me starts to wait on several more excuses to avoid putting up. Pointless post you just made that answered nothing. Your tactics rely on the Cloaky griefer uncloaking himself or changing what hes doing to satisfy your "Baiting " tactics.. Oh, Oh, here's some cheese. Oh he didnt take it. Guess that's a good tactic huh? Oh hang on lets fly into a rat infested level eight plex and be in pvp ships. - OOh thats not good my PvP setup dont work too good in here. Oh lol he hot dropped a dozen others on top of me and because the rats were targetting me too I got var-nigh insta popped. (Along with all my friends who came here to run a plex..) in their seriously weakened ships. For fun you know. That thing we all do this game for. Oh that cant happen when you have ships that cannot be detected at any time and can call in dozens of others when they like (Or not..) but we dont know that because we cant see them, dont know their shiptype or even if they're afk or awake. Thats a bent mechanic. I owe you nothing. You cannot even reveal a Cloaky Griefer by design. My isk will be safe (Oh and when they do change it I naturally withdraw the offer..) You have no intelligent argument. 1 Bil to reveal, catch and kill reguarly Cloaky Griefers. Come collect. It's safe. Raj. Once again you show that you do nothing more than whine to whione because you have to play with the chance of PvP instead of playing on your own terms. I SOLO SANCTUMS WITH MY DOMI THAT'S OMNITANKED AND DO 8/10's WITH 2-3 PEOPLE. I just showed you that you actually fail at doing plexes. Getting swarmed by more of them proves your intel fails. OP proved it himself..he fails and uses nothing but excusses to keep his whine up. I suggest everyone let him rot in his own whines. Even refuses to pay up his wager making up new rules to it as he get's owned by the answers time and time again. Do us all a favor and just ragequit....sheesh, some people need to be sterilised i swear.. ___________ NOW COLLECTING ISD AND CCP AUTOGRAPHS It'll be worth something someday. -Rauth
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:35:00 - [172] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Cloaky Griefing is a imbalance that has no tactic that can be used to defeat it. Constantly repeating this doesn't make it true. In fact it's false, but you are not interested in ways to help negate the cloaker. You just want easy PvE and mining in complete safety and the ability to blob anyone the dares enter 'your' space. P.S. It's not 'your' space and you don't belong in 0.0. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:35:00 - [173] Originally by: Pentinor Sounds like the op is mad he can't rat in peace....pro tip...go 1 jump over. Problem solved. No that just leaves the problem a jump behind you. No fix there. Raj.
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:38:00 - [174] Originally by: DNSBLACK How to kill a griefing cloaker: 1. Wait till he decloaks. 2. Fire Gun or missle. 3. Tank his damage out put. 4. If he has friends come in make sure you have friends who will come to your rescue. 5. Fight it out. PVP is another term for it. 6. Retreat if you think you are going to lose or do what so many do so well from high sec die in a nice explosion and learn from the engagement and try again. Can I have the isk please or is that to complicated for you Lol you are funny wait till he decloaks. Yeah like here I am cloaked thers someone looking for me. So I decloak.. Haahahahahaha. Noob. Raj.
Alara IonStorm Agent-Orange	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:41:00 - [175] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Originally by: DNSBLACK How to kill a griefing cloaker: 1. Wait till he decloaks. 2. Fire Gun or missle. 3. Tank his damage out put. 4. If he has friends come in make sure you have friends who will come to your rescue. 5. Fight it out. PVP is another term for it. 6. Retreat if you think you are going to lose or do what so many do so well from high sec die in a nice explosion and learn from the engagement and try again. Can I have the isk please or is that to complicated for you Lol you are funny wait till he decloaks. Yeah like here I am cloaked thers someone looking for me. So I decloak.. Haahahahahaha. Noob. Raj. So he doesn't declock, Problem solved, thread over! Phew we can all go home now. -- Tactical Responder who is Organized and a Leading-edge Linguist
Riedle Minmatar Wayne's TV and Appliances	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:42:00 - [176] OP repeatedly confirms that there is no cure for dumb click here
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:43:00 - [177] Originally by: CommmanderInChief Cloakies are a pain in the backside. They dont agress when ppl are in system, mainly. they are happy to sit it out, even log off in a system. Corps cannot rat, mine etc for fear of getting ganked. Okà so corps cannot rat, mine, etc. for fear that they'll be ganked by someone who won't aggress when there are people in the system. Riiiiiiiiiiiight. Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Your tactics rely on the Cloaky griefer uncloaking himself or changing what hes doing to satisfy your "Baiting " tactics.. And his tactics relies on him uncloaking himself. Fancy that: what a happy coincidence! ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:44:00 - [178] Originally by: Razzor Death Originally by: Rajheen Orlox OK, here I am to ask CCP why they won't introduce a mechanism, a skillset that players can use to remove nuisance Cloakers ahahahahahahaha omg you're terrible, really you dont belong in 0.0 go back to high sec. Difference between a Carebear alliance/corp and a pvp alliance/corp. Cloaky griefer comes into system - Carebears dock up and cry like little ***gots. Cloaky griefer comes into system - pvps fleet up and send out a bait ship whilst they sit around him in recons waiting for him to bite, After they realise there is no bite they determine he is AFK and everyone continues to make money but in fleet ready to react to any recons or black ops dropped. You are litrally the meaning of terrible and you don't belong out of high sec. Get out. Lol pathetic and not addressing the thread in the least. The thread points to (Much to many folks's discomfort..) the imbalance that Cloaky Griefing is as a tactic. there is no strategy that can be used to defeat it even your above very up-front but totally inadequate response would be useless and where there is a pos or no pos no station would be worse than sh+t.. Lets hope guys like you still keep coming to be knocked down. Raj.
Alara IonStorm Agent-Orange	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:45:00 - [179] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Originally by: Razzor Death Originally by: Rajheen Orlox OK, here I am to ask CCP why they won't introduce a mechanism, a skillset that players can use to remove nuisance Cloakers ahahahahahahaha omg you're terrible, really you dont belong in 0.0 go back to high sec. Difference between a Carebear alliance/corp and a pvp alliance/corp. Cloaky griefer comes into system - Carebears dock up and cry like little ***gots. Cloaky griefer comes into system - pvps fleet up and send out a bait ship whilst they sit around him in recons waiting for him to bite, After they realise there is no bite they determine he is AFK and everyone continues to make money but in fleet ready to react to any recons or black ops dropped. You are litrally the meaning of terrible and you don't belong out of high sec. Get out. Lol pathetic and not addressing the thread in the least. The thread points to (Much to many folks's discomfort..) the imbalance that Cloaky Griefing is as a tactic. there is no strategy that can be used to defeat it even your above very up-front but totally inadequate response would be useless and where there is a pos or no pos no station would be worse than sh+t.. Lets hope guys like you still keep coming to be knocked down. Raj. Yes cause were all laughing at hi... Oh wait! -- Tactical Responder who is Organized and a Leading-edge Linguist
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:46:00 - [180] Originally by: Razzor Death I hope the cloaky afkers kill your corp. You deserve no less Oooh. a Psycho in the ranks. Rattling the cage of a unfair advantage always does this to those making isk from it, doesnt it? Raj.



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