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SurrenderMonkey	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:46:00 - [181] There should be some sort of automatic one week ban that kicks in every time someone makes a new thread about cloaks. --------------- Faction-Militia:Player-Alliance::Newbie-corp:Player-corp
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:48:00 - [182] HAHAHAHAHA NC Renters crying over not being able to macro rat, priceless -- Recruitment now open!!
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:48:00 - [183] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Edited by: Rajheen Orlox on 02/09/2010 14:00:35 Edited by: Rajheen Orlox on 02/09/2010 13:59:13 Originally by: Zagdul Edited by: Zagdul on 02/09/2010 11:29:24 Don't like the cloaky guy in your system, get in a ship bait him with a fleet of your friends. From your US TZ FC.. GL HF. Thats Rich!! Because you cant (and don't..) do anything either! I repeat there is NO way to defeat a Cloaky Greifer and I will pay any one a billion isk to anyone who can PROVE that there is a game method that works to reveal a random Cloaky Griefers position. Come on clever guys your so abundant in here. Now tell us all what your empty arguments are really worth I have 9 bil in my account and want to give a bil away. No silly stupid comments or ignorance that will never work just a proven method. Because there is none. You cannot defeat something as unbalanced as Cloaky griefing. Raj. 1. Join a fleet. You may find your words are a little empty. 2. To counter, get some people in the alliance to bait them. We've done this before, we got our asses kicked but we tried. Learned a few things also and will carry on to attempt a bait again someday. I'll take my isk. This is your counter.
Razzor Death Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:52:00 - [184] Edited by: Razzor Death on 02/09/2010 15:53:23 Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Originally by: Razzor Death Originally by: Rajheen Orlox OK, here I am to ask CCP why they won't introduce a mechanism, a skillset that players can use to remove nuisance Cloakers ahahahahahahaha omg you're terrible, really you dont belong in 0.0 go back to high sec. Difference between a Carebear alliance/corp and a pvp alliance/corp. Cloaky griefer comes into system - Carebears dock up and cry like little *gots. Cloaky griefer comes into system - pvps fleet up and send out a bait ship whilst they sit around him in recons waiting for him to bite, After they realise there is no bite they determine he is AFK and everyone continues to make money but in fleet ready to react to any recons or black ops dropped. You are litrally the meaning of terrible and you don't belong out of high sec. Get out. Lol pathetic and not addressing the thread in the least. The thread points to (Much to many folks's discomfort..) the imbalance that Cloaky Griefing is as a tactic. there is no strategy that can be used to defeat it even your above very up-front but totally inadequate response would be useless and where there is a pos or no pos no station would be worse than sh+t.. Lets hope guys like you still keep coming to be knocked down. Raj. OMG you are so **ed I'm going to say it really slow so it gets in your blaintly ***ed carebear skull IF..CLOAKY...IN...SYSTEM...GET..IN...FLEET....AND...RAT...WITH..A...POINT...AND...READY ..TO..RESPOND...WHY...ARE...YOU....SO....BAD...AT...THIS...GAME... I'm tempted to get into my Arazu and come camp your system now. -------------------------------------------------- I'm posting in your thread and I didn't even read the OP v0v*
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:53:00 - [185] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Originally by: Razzor Death I hope the cloaky afkers kill your corp. You deserve no less Oooh. a Psycho in the ranks. Rattling the cage of a unfair advantage always does this to those making isk from it, doesnt it? Raj. The thing about it is its not an unfair advantage. Its not unfair because you can stop it and you can do it yourself. When you say "fanboi" try to picture a fat man doing burlesque with 2 big ass fans that say CCP on one and HTFU on the other. Because that dude is me.
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:55:00 - [186] Originally by: Freyya Once again you show that you do nothing more than whine to whione because you have to play with the chance of PvP instead of playing on your own terms. I SOLO SANCTUMS WITH MY DOMI THAT'S OMNITANKED AND DO 8/10's WITH 2-3 PEOPLE. I just showed you that you actually fail at doing plexes. Getting swarmed by more of them proves your intel fails. OP proved it himself..he fails and uses nothing but excusses to keep his whine up. I suggest everyone let him rot in his own whines. Even refuses to pay up his wager making up new rules to it as he get's owned by the answers time and time again. Do us all a favor and just ragequit....sheesh, some people need to be sterilised i swear.. You should see a doctor about that hate thing. This thread is entirely about the the only thing in the game that has no defence or counter tactic when every single other pilot-ownable item or skill is just the opposite and beatable on skill dependancy. Thats what really hurts isnt it? cary on with your impotent empty sacks and try griefing me away from this thread loser. Ain't happening. :) Cause your very funny. Before I ever "Ragequit.." I'm going to **** a lot of you off revealing you for the game twisting set of griefing as+ha+s you really are. I would lay money that you would never say that me or anyone face to face because your'e a cheapshot yellowbacked griefer in the forums only. Loser. Raj.
Surfs Down	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:56:00 - [187] Raj - When the cloaky in your system reads this he aint never going to leave as the carebear tears are the best test. He is growing fat on the copius amounts you are spilling trust me. I cant see CCP ever changing the ability to remain cloaked indefinatly. It would break to much of how fleets work in 0.0 or even lowsec for that matter. What you are basically saying, and trust me we all get it, is by having this person in your 0.0 system perma cloaked is interfering with your safety factor and thus not allowing you to enjoy your game. We get that two. However just because you cannot decloak him does me the game mechanic should be changed because You are affected. Doing so would effect other game play styles in a way that would not be benifical to the greater eve community. You just are not willing to concede that point and your argumentative petulate stance renders any ground you may have had with your point useless. Ill even offer you another way to get him to leave. Pay him to leave. I made a lot of money off RA in the past to do just that.
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:58:00 - [188] Originally by: SurrenderMonkey There should be some sort of automatic one week ban that kicks in every time someone makes a new thread about cloaks. Hmm might get noticed someday.. Meanwhile, Suppress all dissenters! Worriesome aint it? Raj.
Razzor Death Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:58:00 - [189] Pure Blind F-NMX6 GA-P6C S-MDYI S4GH-I Go go go Alliance publicly admitting cloakys can kill them. Lets go park our alts. -------------------------------------------------- I'm posting in your thread and I didn't even read the OP v0v
Riedle Minmatar Wayne's TV and Appliances	Posted - 2010.09.02 15:59:00 - [190] Quote: I would lay money that you would never say that me or anyone face to face because your'e a cheapshot yellowbacked griefer in the forums only. Careful, OP is tough guy in RL click here

Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2010.09.02 16:01:00 - [191] Originally by: Riedle Quote: I would lay money that you would never say that me or anyone face to face because your'e a cheapshot yellowbacked griefer in the forums only. Careful, OP is tough guy in RL Damn you're right, I must refrain from posting just in case. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Alara IonStorm Agent-Orange	Posted - 2010.09.02 16:01:00 - [192] Originally by: Riedle Quote: I would lay money that you would never say that me or anyone face to face because your'e a cheapshot yellowbacked griefer in the forums only. Careful, OP is tough guy in RL Yeah Careful or we will get beat up! No one messes with his internet spaceships! -- Tactical Responder who is Organized and a Leading-edge Linguist
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 16:02:00 - [193] Originally by: Zagdul 1. Join a fleet. You may find your words are a little empty. 2. To counter, get some people in the alliance to bait them. We've done this before, we got our asses kicked but we tried. Learned a few things also and will carry on to attempt a bait again someday. I'll take my isk. This is your counter. Zag.. Baiting depends entirely upon the guy doing the Cloaky Griefing revealing himself to you. I'm not asking for a charitable action from the guy like that, I'm asking for a skillset from CCP to let me eventually find him myself. Thanks for your continued support. Raj.
Cailais Amarr THE ORDAINED	Posted - 2010.09.02 16:02:00 - [194] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox This thread is entirely about the the only thing in the game that has no defence or counter tactic when every single other pilot-ownable item or skill is just the opposite and beatable on skill dependancy. You missed docking in a NPC station. C. the hydrostatic capsule blog
Razzor Death Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2010.09.02 16:03:00 - [195] nobody's supporting you we are telling you you are a moron and you are publicly telling everyone your alliance is so bad you cant deal with cloakys. Pure Blind F-NMX6 GA-P6C S-MDYI S4GH-I gogogogo -------------------------------------------------- I'm posting in your thread and I didn't even read the OP v0v
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 16:04:00 - [196] Originally by: Musical Fist HAHAHAHAHA NC Renters crying over not being able to macro rat, priceless Wrong. No macro ratters in system, and no rental. Never say something you cannot prove when cross examined. Raj.
Alara IonStorm Agent-Orange	Posted - 2010.09.02 16:05:00 - [197] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Come on CCP, surely you can admit that almost everyone is sick and tired of being locked down by some griefer in a system when in this game there are many ways available to give us skillsets that can make the balance a little more even. *Looks around. Nope still just you! -- Tactical Responder who is Organized and a Leading-edge Linguist
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 16:06:00 - [198] Originally by: Cipher Jones The thing about it is its not an unfair advantage. Its not unfair because you can stop it and you can do it yourself. No one has managed to show me how yet. Uuum including your very clever self. (Cough..!) Raj.
Riedle Minmatar Wayne's TV and Appliances	Posted - 2010.09.02 16:08:00 - [199] OP, Never go FULL ******. click here
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 16:11:00 - [200] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Originally by: Zagdul 1. Join a fleet. You may find your words are a little empty. 2. To counter, get some people in the alliance to bait them. We've done this before, we got our asses kicked but we tried. Learned a few things also and will carry on to attempt a bait again someday. I'll take my isk. This is your counter. Zag.. Baiting depends entirely upon the guy doing the Cloaky Griefing revealing himself to you. I'm not asking for a charitable action from the guy like that, I'm asking for a skillset from CCP to let me eventually find him myself. Thanks for your continued support. Raj. You're not the first person to ask in the past... oh 7 years. Nothing is changed. Make a petition, come up with an idea and put it on the ideas discussion forum. But coming to General Discussion and whining about it solves NOTHING. Getting in a ship and trying to bait at least is something. So, your current solution, with current game mechanics is: 1. HTFU. 2. Get in a combat ship that looks like some tasty hot dropping food. I advised a well tanked Tengu, an awesomely fit golem with plates and shield resists... ya know... bait. 2. Have a fleet waiting on one of the gates or multiple jump bridges leading into the system you're having problems with and wait. Pay this fleet a portion of your bounty so they don't feel like they're doing it for nothing. 3. Hot dropper sees the wonderful piece of prime rib sitting in a Sanctum. 4. ?????? 5. Profit. This is your counter to game mechanics in an MMO. Where you, as an individual cannot counter this. JUST as the enemy, as a single player (unless multi boxing) cannot accomplish the hot drop on their own.

Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 16:12:00 - [201] Originally by: Razzor Death OMG you are so ****ed I'm going to say it really slow so it gets in your blaintly ****ed carebear skull IF..CLOAKY...IN...SYSTEM...GET..IN...FLEET....AND...RAT...WITH..A...POINT...AND...READY ..TO..RESPOND...WHY...ARE...YOU....SO....BAD...AT...THIS...GAME... I'm tempted to get into my Arazu and come camp your system now. You are a pillock. Lol who says I'm ratting? Who says there are other guys in system with me? Who says we only get Cloaky Griefers at certain times of the the day? Your stupid little argument is shaped to throw abuse and is useless in defence of Cloaky griefing.. Purile really. Raj.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.09.02 16:12:00 - [202] Edited by: Tippia on 02/09/2010 16:13:19 Originally by: Rajheen Orlox This thread is entirely about the the only thing in the game that has no defence or counter tactic when every single other pilot-ownable item or skill is just the opposite and beatable on skill dependancy. No it's not. It's about cloakers and about you being utterly and completely unable to invent, comprehend or employ tactics that other have experience with and which have proven successful. Cloaking, as it happens, have plenty of defences and counter-tactics, so whatever it is you're thinking about, it is certainly not an issue being discussed in this thread. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 16:19:00 - [203] Originally by: Surfs Down Raj - When the cloaky in your system reads this he aint never going to leave as the carebear tears are the best test. He is growing fat on the copius amounts you are spilling trust me. I cant see CCP ever changing the ability to remain cloaked indefinatly. It would break to much of how fleets work in 0.0 or even lowsec for that matter. What you are basically saying, and trust me we all get it, is by having this person in your 0.0 system perma cloaked is interfering with your safety factor and thus not allowing you to enjoy your game. We get that two. However just because you cannot decloak him does me the game mechanic should be changed because You are affected. Doing so would effect other game play styles in a way that would not be benifical to the greater eve community. You just are not willing to concede that point and your argumentative petulate stance renders any ground you may have had with your point useless. Ill even offer you another way to get him to leave. Pay him to leave. I made a lot of money off RA in the past to do just that. Wel surfs thats a really interesting argument and I respect the reasoned way it's been presented. Thanks for that at least, generally I'm disapointed with the flak (Sheer abuse..) thats come this way entertaining though it's been. I dont want to destroy Cloaking alltogether but I would like to see a way to reveal the cloakers by determined not easy methods and this could be made really difficult and expensive and time consuming but a bit like tracing a call on a telephone it would be absolute in the end. It would be certain. Thats not too much too ask and cloakers can still get an hour or 2 or maybe 3 from their skillset which by any standards is reasonable. Cheers. Raj.
Alara IonStorm Agent-Orange	Posted - 2010.09.02 16:21:00 - [204] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Thats not too much too ask and cloakers can still get an hour or 2 or maybe 3 from their skillset which by any standards is reasonable. Nope, Cry More! -- Tactical Responder who is Organized and a Leading-edge Linguist

CCP Adida C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.02 16:22:00 - [205] Moved from General Discussion Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online

Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.09.02 16:23:00 - [206] Originally by: Rajheen Orlox I dont want to destroy Cloaking alltogether but I would like to see a way to reveal the cloakers by determined not easy methods and this could be made really difficult and expensive and time consuming but a bit like tracing a call on a telephone it would be absolute in the end. It would be certain. So instead of the "unbalanced" situation where they are (supposedly) 100% safe, you want the "balanced" situation where they are 100% unsafe. àeven though the notion that they are safe to begin with is 100% false. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Rajheen Orlox Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 16:23:00 - [207] Originally by: Razzor Death nobody's supporting you we are telling you you are a moron and you are publicly telling everyone your alliance is so bad you cant deal with cloakys. Pure Blind F-NMX6 GA-P6C S-MDYI S4GH-I gogogogo No one can deal with Cloaky griefers.. Thank you. proof from the enemy camp. CCP take note if you are watching Redress the balance.. ? Raj.
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.09.02 16:26:00 - [208] Originally by: Razzor Death nobody's supporting you we are telling you you are a moron and you are publicly telling everyone your alliance is so bad you cant deal with cloakys. Pure Blind F-NMX6 GA-P6C S-MDYI S4GH-I gogogogo Nonono... He's a moron, in our alliance. Everyone has a couple.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2010.09.02 16:27:00 - [209] Nice to see the report feature working. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Alara IonStorm Agent-Orange	Posted - 2010.09.02 16:27:00 - [210] Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from General Discussion Still here?! -- Tactical Responder who is Organized and a Leading-edge Linguist



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