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Xahara
StarFleet Enterprises Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.09.04 04:40:00 -
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Well, with the whole mechanic of you having to be docked to send an application to a corp, supercapital pilots cannot do it unless they have holding characters. Now, some pilots just have alts designed especifically to fly the ship at all times, which means they can't join a corp. This is a bit game breaking, if you ask me. Please support to bring this issue up with the CSM and let's try to come up with some solutions!
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Xahara
StarFleet Enterprises Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.09.04 04:51:00 -
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Maybe create some sort of a petition system especially designed for this? Maybe it takes too many resources, hmm...
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.09.04 07:03:00 -
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Leave ship for 2 seconds at a pos, dock, quit, put in app, go get back in ship.
Tbh, I don't see why we just don't let supercaps dock (other than ya know, they're bigger than stations..), which will probably spark some flaming.
Anyway, supported because.. uhh...
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Maxsim Goratiev
Gallente Imperial Tau Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.09.04 14:51:00 -
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L Quote: eave ship for 2 seconds at a pos, dock, quit, put in app, go get back in ship.
THis. And you also sometimes have teammates and friends, ya know. NOt supported.
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David Hassan
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Posted - 2010.09.04 15:35:00 -
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Dock it in your POS, seeing as you are flying a Super CAPITAL ship you have that infrastructure in place right?
Sorry if life is too hard in a Supercap. I know it must be tough knowing that if you do get caught, 99% of the time you can loggoffski and disappear before anything but a large capital fleet can break your buffer.
Not supporting.
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Soleil Fournier
UNFAITHFUL SHADOWS Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2010.09.04 16:00:00 -
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This is basic common sense, pilots need to be able to join a corp and it's not safe to leave the ship at any time, given the risks of theft/etc.
Supported.
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Xahara
StarFleet Enterprises Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.09.04 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: David Hassan Dock it in your POS, seeing as you are flying a Super CAPITAL ship you have that infrastructure in place right?
Sorry if life is too hard in a Supercap. I know it must be tough knowing that if you do get caught, 99% of the time you can loggoffski and disappear before anything but a large capital fleet can break your buffer.
Not supporting.
POSs are meant to be corp owned structures, not for personal use. Plus, unless you give special rights to that pilot, anyone can steal the ship from the capital SMA. Stop being dogmatic and hating on supercaps because you can't have one. We're talking about a game breaking feature here. And CCP will NOT help you apply to a corp. So, you are required to trust another person if you don't have a holding character. I'm a pretty trusting person, but I don't really fancy lending a 30 billion isk worth supercarrier to someone I met over internet pixels, especially when CCP actively supports stealing supercaps. Say whatever you want about them being overpowered, but if you were in one, you would think the same way I do.
Again, this is a generic situation, I'm not the subject of this post.
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Melkie
The Executives IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.04 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: Xahara
Originally by: David Hassan Dock it in your POS, seeing as you are flying a Super CAPITAL ship you have that infrastructure in place right?
Sorry if life is too hard in a Supercap. I know it must be tough knowing that if you do get caught, 99% of the time you can loggoffski and disappear before anything but a large capital fleet can break your buffer.
Not supporting.
POSs are meant to be corp owned structures, not for personal use. Plus, unless you give special rights to that pilot, anyone can steal the ship from the capital SMA. Stop being dogmatic and hating on supercaps because you can't have one. We're talking about a game breaking feature here. And CCP will NOT help you apply to a corp. So, you are required to trust another person if you don't have a holding character. I'm a pretty trusting person, but I don't really fancy lending a 30 billion isk worth supercarrier to someone I met over internet pixels, especially when CCP actively supports stealing supercaps. Say whatever you want about them being overpowered, but if you were in one, you would think the same way I do.
Again, this is a generic situation, I'm not the subject of this post.
HELLS YES^^ Supported
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.09.04 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Xahara POSs are meant to be corp owned structures, not for personal use....
But in your mind super-capitals (ships that can ONLY be built in sovereign space mind you) are designed for the individual?
Not supported. The more pebbles in the super-capital pilots shoes the better as far as I am concerned.
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Rip Minner
ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries
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Posted - 2010.09.04 22:54:00 -
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Edited by: Rip Minner on 04/09/2010 22:55:11 Edited by: Rip Minner on 04/09/2010 22:53:53 Ya this is just stupid and needs to be fixed.
Easly answer just let them dock for the love of god its a game not every last thing needs to be real.
Other Easly answer add in a pos mod that holds one suppercap. Even call it a Supercap hanger omg so hard yes I know.
Is it a rock? Point a Lazer at it and profit. Is it a ship? Point a Lazer at it and profit. I dont realy see any differnces here. |
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Cyrus Doul
Infinite Covenant
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Posted - 2010.09.05 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Rip Minner Edited by: Rip Minner on 04/09/2010 22:55:11 Edited by: Rip Minner on 04/09/2010 22:53:53 Ya this is just stupid and needs to be fixed.
Easly answer just let them dock for the love of god its a game not every last thing needs to be real.
Other Easly answer add in a pos mod that holds one suppercap. Even call it a Supercap hanger omg so hard yes I know.
Its called a capital ship maintance array if I remember right, CSMA. It cost a billion isk and takes up 40k m3 of space and holds 1 super. Still need sov to use it though which means no low sec or 0.0 that you don't own. And if you are flipping corps your ship gets locked in when you get accepted.
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Allegratto
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Posted - 2010.09.05 19:01:00 -
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If you have the isk to own a supercap, you should have the isk to start an alt corp, anchor a safe tower, and have a place to log off/emergency cyno/park it for a trip to the ***** bar.
Then again, planing to own a supercap correctly takes an IQ of at least 10, which is far above the average EVE player
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Mr LaForge
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Posted - 2010.09.05 22:06:00 -
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Them new fangled alt chars would really help with this problem.
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blulululu
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Posted - 2010.09.06 05:51:00 -
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Didnt they make it possible to join a corp from space a few patches ago?
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SurrenderMonkey
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Posted - 2010.09.06 06:07:00 -
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The fact that a workaround exists is not a valid argument against streamlining it. It should not take a disproportionate amount of effort (and, more significantly, risk) just to do something as mundane as joining a corp. --------------- Faction-Militia:Player-Alliance::Newbie-corp:Player-corp |
BlahBlahBlah exwife
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Posted - 2010.09.06 07:01:00 -
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Search for the corp of interest. Do show info on the search result. On the info window, there's a button to apply to join, now.
Not sure if you can use it from space, though, or if you'll get an error telling you to be in a station, like so many other things, but it's worth a try.
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eocsnesemaj
Heavens Gate Consortium Dead Reckoning Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.08 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Allegratto If you have the isk to own a supercap, you should have the isk to start an alt corp, anchor a safe tower, and have a place to log off/emergency cyno/park it for a trip to the ***** bar.
Then again, planing to own a supercap correctly takes an IQ of at least 10, which is far above the average EVE player
Creating an alt just for this is a workaround for a bug imo. Joining corps should have nothing to do with docking even for the non supercap pilot.
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.09.08 19:45:00 -
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Edited by: Bagehi on 08/09/2010 19:45:21 Leave ship at a POS? I think people who have suggested this are uninformed.
This signature is useless, but it is red.
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count sporkula
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Posted - 2010.09.09 00:45:00 -
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if you trust the group enough to want to apply then you should be able to meet a ceo or director in space and have an option apply / be accepted in space right by them.
and it isn't always about it being a personal asset or corp asset. sometimes we personally pay for the equipment we want. and if i pay the fuel + materials + time of usage + i have the char to build it + i buy and anchor the structure to build it. then it is MINE and not the corps. i may lend it to the corp but it is still MINE.
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EdwardNardella
Capital Construction Research
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Posted - 2010.09.09 15:12:00 -
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Those saying store it at a POS clearly do not understand the situation. If one could store his Super Cap at a POS then he is probably in the corp he wants to be in.
What if someone was in an NPC corp (kicked and petitioned by kicker) what would you have him do then.
Obviously there are workarounds to these issues but none of them are very appropriate. I see no (non-technical) reason a Super Cap pilot or anyone for that matter should have to be docked to join a corporation. CCRES is recruiting pilots who want to live in WSpace/Wormholes. Fill out an application here! |
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klyeme
Soft War Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.09.09 21:37:00 -
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You should be able to join any corp if you are within 2500m of a station, same as jump range and just about every other environment controlled transfer.
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steave435
Final Agony B A N E
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Posted - 2010.09.09 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: Allegratto If you have the isk to own a supercap, you should have the isk to start an alt corp, anchor a safe tower, and have a place to log off/emergency cyno/park it for a trip to the ***** bar.
Then again, planing to own a supercap correctly takes an IQ of at least 10, which is far above the average EVE player
Due to the above issue, you can't join that corp yourself, and when leaving ships at towers that belong to alt corps of ours using the password, I've had those ships ejected the next time I enter space since they still belong to me and I didn't have time to enter the PW before the pos reacted.
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Theel Maas
Sigillum Militum Xpisti R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.09.10 04:57:00 -
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T'Amber
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.09.10 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: blulululu Didnt they make it possible to join a corp from space a few patches ago?
Negative. They allow you to join any corp from any station, you still need to be docked.
-T'amber
[SoE:X]
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Arkanor
Ixion Defence Systems
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Posted - 2010.09.11 02:04:00 -
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It makes no sense to force pilots to risk theft just to get into a corp.
Making things harder by not providing utility features in an effort to preserve the "sandbox" is stupid, why do you think we have the Market? Should we just make everyone rely on undocking, jettisoning items and "gifting" money to each other too?
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Michela
Bosun Shipyards
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Posted - 2010.09.11 03:56:00 -
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Either allow corp joining from space ... or ... let us password-protect our ships if we eject. |
Lotty Granat
Superior Shipyards
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Posted - 2010.09.11 11:32:00 -
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Cry my a river - "waaah waaah - there should be no inconvenience related to owning a super cap." If you have to do something to make it vulnerable while you change corps - well tough frankly...
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Marconus Orion
D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2010.09.11 13:37:00 -
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What is funny is CCP lets you petition to boot people from a corp if they stay in space and don't dock so the game will let you boot them.
Should be a two way street. So either let super capital pilots petition to get in a corp, or allow people to leave and get in corps while still in space.
You could even make it where that mechanic only works if the game detects your in a super capital to prevent abuse.
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2010.09.11 18:32:00 -
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You can put in your app from anywhere in space, just look at corp info and hit the apply button.
As far as actually being accepted, it should work by just logging out, get accepted while offline. Works with leaving corps in space at least.
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Nivvinn
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Posted - 2010.12.08 03:37:00 -
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Originally by: Omara Otawan You can put in your app from anywhere in space, just look at corp info and hit the apply button.
As far as actually being accepted, it should work by just logging out, get accepted while offline. Works with leaving corps in space at least.
Putting in an app from space isn't working for me. Are you sure about this?
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