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Xenuria
Gallente Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
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Posted - 2010.09.05 20:03:00 -
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I have made threads in the past and every so often something rare and improbable happens.
Somebody gets it!
In Eve Crime and Righteous Vengeance are as common as space rocks. Eve is not the same in purpose or meaning to any two people who experience. This is because the world of eve is one of deep and rich culture. In this thread I want to discuss the criminal and clandestine culture specifically.
For me eve is very special in that it mirrors concepts and problems of the real world. Today we live in a world where information be it written on paper or remembered in somebodies mind can be far more dangerous and valuable then 100 nuclear warheads. Eve is no exception to this concept in that with the eve mechanics "The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world" to quote one of my inspirations. I have noticed that C&P often has more trollish or non-serious posts then it dose deep and captivating discussion of the subject matter which the forum name is attributed to.
I am going to do my best to try and change that by making this thread and maybe others like it. I want to talk to you about "The Broker", I said before that sometimes posters "get it". I mean to say that they understand what I am doing on a deeper level then the typical user replying to that thread.
http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=jun02
Read this carefully and take note that this story element can and dose happen in the eve world. Not all of the eve story chronicles describe things that we players are capable of doing with the present mechanics.
A user in my hydra thread made the connection between what I allegedly did to hydra reloaded and what "the broker" does to targets. This connection was not only ironic and conspicuously spot on but also a great way of explaining the identity crisis that trolls encounter as they gradually become more sophisticated.
I said before that trolls are like real life actors. They play a part in a progressing story. The difference is actors tend to enforce their act off of real life experiences and aspects of them as a person. Trolls.. Or Really Good trolls are different in that they use very little if any at all of their personal experiences to influence their character. They typically read and study other real or fictional people and form composites of them. While this makes an expert troll several orders of magnitude more believable then the best actors it comes with a price.
Sometimes trolls go too deep and they can develop psychological disorders like DID (dissociative identity disorder). It takes a strong mind to fragment and partition your own base thought and reaction to accommodate a foreign persona. It is possible that I am the broker as one poster suggested but I have become so fragmented that I no longer remember half the people I pretended to be... Or even worse who I really am. There are stories of spies or trolls pulling off ops that are nonsensical and sometimes there isn't even an employer. The is what happens when the troll goes rogue...
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Spruillo
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.09.05 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria I have made threads in the past
This will be dealt with.
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
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Posted - 2010.09.05 20:22:00 -
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I do not get the troll, actors and DID part. Are you talking about the little psychopaths, the unavoidable warts and leeches of EVE? I believe that these are just players, who do not want to win new knowledge, new experience and trusted friends, but who rather want to win a game of EVE, and thereby cause grievance all around.
These players are irritating, but do they suffer from a disorder? Hardly. They are young and still need to grow up, and this is their way of growing up. They get there eventually. The grief they give you is really just their grief they have when they do not play, and you are their relieve.
Hope this helps. --
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Spruillo
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.09.05 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound I believe that these are just players, who do not want to win new knowledge, new experience and trusted friends, but who rather want to win a game of EVE, and thereby cause grievance all around.
Came to eve looking for adventure and friends and all that good crap. Then they killed my velator. Then they LIED to me. Then they laughed.
The laughter.. it was the worst. Oh gawd the laughter I wake in the morning in a cold sweat.. 900m for a 90k frigate.. wait it was just a dream... then the laughter dies awy as I come back to this world.
Must have coffe. then ill log on and show them one day ill show them one day ill show ALL OF THEM
MUWAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAA
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Xenuria
Gallente Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
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Posted - 2010.09.05 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: Spruillo
Originally by: Whitehound I believe that these are just players, who do not want to win new knowledge, new experience and trusted friends, but who rather want to win a game of EVE, and thereby cause grievance all around.
Came to eve looking for adventure and friends and all that good crap. Then they killed my velator. Then they LIED to me. Then they laughed.
The laughter.. it was the worst. Oh gawd the laughter I wake in the morning in a cold sweat.. 900m for a 90k frigate.. wait it was just a dream... then the laughter dies awy as I come back to this world.
Must have coffe. then ill log on and show them one day ill show them one day ill show ALL OF THEM
MUWAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAA
When I was young and immature I would annihilate entire online communities for such petty and trivial things. Then I learned empathy.
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captain foivos
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Posted - 2010.09.05 23:35:00 -
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Should never post again (Pick three): Xenuria Whitehound Beachura Xenuria
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
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Posted - 2010.09.05 23:44:00 -
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Edited by: Whitehound on 05/09/2010 23:45:34
Originally by: captain foivos Should never post again (Pick three): Xenuria Whitehound Beachura Xenuria
Good grief, no! Why?? Because it brings out the troll in you? --
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captain foivos
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Posted - 2010.09.06 00:42:00 -
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Takes one to know one Thus far thou shalt read, but no further: for thine has reached my signature. |
Cobalt Sixty
Caldari The Price of Darkness
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Posted - 2010.09.06 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria Today we live in a world where information be it written on paper or remembered in somebodies mind can be far more dangerous and valuable then 100 nuclear warheads.
No.
And stop posting.
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
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Posted - 2010.09.06 04:15:00 -
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Edited by: Whitehound on 06/09/2010 04:17:21
Originally by: Cobalt Sixty No.
And stop posting.
Having 100 fishes and knowing how to fish - it is the same with warheads.
You should post more. --
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Jamie Banks
Gallente Wasted and Still Mining
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Posted - 2010.09.06 04:17:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria I try really hard to make meaninful threads and disguise them as trolls, only to be taken as trolls. Why oh god why... Can't I be seen as the all powerful archetype poster that I truly am
Because we don't care
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.09.06 04:19:00 -
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Do I get points for knowing exactly what you are doing and not telling anyone?
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Paknac Queltel
Coffee Muggers
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Posted - 2010.09.06 08:19:00 -
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Originally by: Spruillo
Originally by: Xenuria I have made threads in the past
This will be dealt with.
*Sigh* If only... - Paknac Queltel
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cigarellos
Strategic Warfare and Exploration Team
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Posted - 2010.09.06 09:31:00 -
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I was the one who made the connection in the Hydra thread.
Do I get 1.7 billion ISK?
-cig
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AJudas Rimmer
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Posted - 2010.09.06 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: Spruillo
Originally by: Xenuria I have made threads in the past
This will be dealt with.
This made my weekend.
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Misanth
Reaper Industries Asset Liberation Front.
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Posted - 2010.09.06 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Spruillo Must have coffe.
You got that right. It's on its way atm. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen. |
Xenuria
Gallente Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
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Posted - 2010.09.06 14:18:00 -
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So does anybody have anything intelligent or constructive to say? Does anybody feel said for spies and trolls that have fallen into dementia and lost their way even their identity.
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Paknac Queltel
Coffee Muggers
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Posted - 2010.09.06 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria So does anybody have anything intelligent or constructive to say? Does anybody feel said for spies and trolls that have fallen into dementia and lost their way even their identity.
What, you want a serious answer?
I can maintain several identities without a single problem, keeping information belonging to one or the other filtered. I have successfully used this skill in the past to infiltrate corps. Though, I got in one little fight, and my mom got scared. She said "you're moving with your aunty and uncle in Bel-Air". - Paknac Queltel
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Maximus Trollus
Amarr The Village Idiots
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Posted - 2010.09.06 14:25:00 -
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my opinion about your thread is
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.06 14:31:00 -
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Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 06/09/2010 14:30:57
Originally by: Xenuria So does anybody have anything intelligent or constructive to say? Does anybody feel said for spies and trolls that have fallen into dementia and lost their way even their identity.
While I would like to see some interesting answers. Did you expect them?
C&P is all full of chest beating from forum warriors. The linking to "circle jerk" is very fitting imo. Kinda sad, C&P is the CAOD for the samll time high ego "pirats" in low/high sec. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Swiftgaze
Elysium Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.09.06 14:46:00 -
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Edited by: Swiftgaze on 06/09/2010 14:47:44 "Rants are not allowed" and a click would be a suitable answer. :S What is this? WHAT IS THIS?
Also: Xenuria = Whitehound?!
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
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Posted - 2010.09.06 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Swiftgaze Also: Xenuria = Whitehound?!
You know love when you see, don't you? --
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Swiftgaze
Elysium Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.09.06 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound
Originally by: Swiftgaze Also: Xenuria = Whitehound?!
You know love when you see, don't you?
I don't care, I'd rather hear what this crappy topic is supposed to be about.
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Bigcock Randymountain
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Posted - 2010.09.06 15:13:00 -
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It's about Xenuria having mental diarrhoea and not going to the toilet to defecate.
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Paknac Queltel
Coffee Muggers
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Posted - 2010.09.06 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Swiftgaze
Originally by: Whitehound
Originally by: Swiftgaze Also: Xenuria = Whitehound?!
You know love when you see, don't you?
I don't care, I'd rather hear what this crappy topic is supposed to be about.
Mostly, about trolls developing multiple personality disorder due to trolling too hard. There's also something about The Broker, a character from EVE fiction, mixed in. - Paknac Queltel
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
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Posted - 2010.09.06 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Swiftgaze I don't care, I'd rather hear what this crappy topic is supposed to be about.
It is about this. --
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Penker
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Posted - 2010.09.06 15:51:00 -
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I built you this:
/\ / \ ====== It's a paper hat. Wear it with pride!
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Skippermonkey
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.09.06 16:34:00 -
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Xenuria, you are an hero!
Originally by: CCP Capslock
OH GOD THE TESTING
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Naphess Lek
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.06 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria "The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world" to quote one of my inspirations.
You've been playing Half-Life 2 haven't you.
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Xenuria
Gallente Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
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Posted - 2010.09.06 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Swiftgaze Edited by: Swiftgaze on 06/09/2010 14:47:44 "Rants are not allowed" and a click would be a suitable answer. :S What is this? WHAT IS THIS?
Also: Xenuria = Whitehound?!
I am so many people that the sheer realization of the extent to which I have copied myself would cause you to have a stroke.
But no I am not whitehound at least I dont think I am...
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