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ShadowandLight
Amarr Doom Guard Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.09.07 12:27:00 -
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Edited by: ShadowandLight on 07/09/2010 12:33:22 There are things in the UI that really annoy the **** out of me.
I realize that its hard to balance making the UI easily to manage while packing it full of features.
That being said, among other things in the UI that drive me up the wall
Why is "Trash it" and "Make Active" next to each other?!?
Why would you put 2 commands that have the entirely OPPOSITE effect of one another NEXT to each other? What motivation would cause you to do that other then some sadistic "lets hope the player kills their 2b faction fitted ship by accidents lolroflwtfbbq "
I must admit, I am not the most forgiving pilot in EVE regarding CCP's thinking, but jeez man what is going on here.
Disclaimer: I have not made the mistake yet of killing a ship by accident... yet... But it will happen one day I am sure
And yes this I realize its been like this for years, but it irked me today.... so whatever ------- "The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger All of his fury and rage. He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels" - The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
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Swiftgaze
Elysium Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.09.07 12:34:00 -
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They weren't thinking at all. Or maybe "hahaha we really managed to pretend we can code a GUI and the manager didn't notice XDDDD"
Also, threads of this nature usually end up in Features and Ideas, as a confession of failure. Now and in the future.
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OneTimeAt BannedSpank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.09.07 12:34:00 -
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Great post from a great poster. This is a new discovery and no one has ever thought to discuss it yet. ~
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Jacob Holland
Gallente Weyland-Vulcan Industries
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Posted - 2010.09.07 12:34:00 -
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What would you put it next to?
The Trash It option has to go next to something after all, and whether it's show info or change name or whatever else it might be then the risk of errors exists. --
Originally by: cordy
Respect to IAC .Your one of the few people who truly deserve to own and live in the space you are in.
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.09.07 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Holland What would you put it next to?
The Trash It option has to go next to something after all, and whether it's show info or change name or whatever else it might be then the risk of errors exists.
You should start "Jacob Holland's Marvelous School of Design". Brilliant reasoning there...
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Ovella
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Posted - 2010.09.07 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Holland What would you put it next to?
/me votes for undock button on neocom |
Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.09.07 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Holland What would you put it next to?
The Trash It option has to go next to something after all, and whether it's show info or change name or whatever else it might be then the risk of errors exists.
Two separators - one above, one below.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.09.07 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Holland What would you put it next to?
Something else that is also, but not as, destructive ù Reprocess, probably. Before that, repackage. Before that a horizontal spacer. This creates the "reduce/destruct" category of item options. Put the most destructive at the bottom, where it's hardest to reach.
The category before that? "Get rid of": show market info, sell, contract.
àspacerà
Before that, "Construct/Use": Activate, assemble, set name, open fitting screen (why isn't this in the menu?), open cargo, open drone hold, open [whatever] hold.
And the ubiquitous "Show info" at the top. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Serpents smile
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Posted - 2010.09.07 13:27:00 -
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Someone please dig up the design Entity made (I haven't got a clue where to look) but that was simply just the way it should be.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.09.07 13:34:00 -
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One of my favourite GUI bloopers is that for a titan or blackops ship the "Bridge to" and "Jump to" option are next to each other. There have been plenty incidents where titan pilots found themselfes in the middle of hostile fleets with their own support fleet lightyears away.
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Fujiko MaXjolt
Caldari Templar Republic
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Posted - 2010.09.07 13:46:00 -
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Well, a simple fix to your problem could be to make the trash it like the leave fleet - that is, have a sub-item called "confirm" or something...
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Alyth
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.09.07 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Fujiko MaXjolt Well, a simple fix to your problem could be to make the trash it like the leave fleet - that is, have a sub-item called "confirm" or something...
There already is, I went to trash something earlier and got a confirmation box. Just have to turn it's warning back on if it's been disabled.
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Letrange
Minmatar Chaosstorm Corporation Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2010.09.07 14:10:00 -
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Do not get me started on the corp interface...
*fumes*
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2010.09.07 14:27:00 -
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Like most things brought up on these forums, this has:
1-Been raised in the assembly hall 2-Passed 3-Taken to the CSM 4-Passed 5-Taken to CCP 6-Ignored in favour of "Pervs in stations"
IIRC it was put forward by the CSM in 2008 (2 years ago) and with 16-20 months left before they *MIGHT* devote resorces to EvE with a but of luck we can get a menu tweak actioned in 5 years.
THE ENTITY MENU REDESIGN
SKUNK
(o)
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Htrag
The Carebear Stare Hydroponic Zone
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Posted - 2010.09.07 14:36:00 -
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I click Trash by accident fairly regularly when switching ships, then click cancel and move on. Its just "one of those things" we deal with. You know multiple clicks to do one thing, cascading menus that are never in the same place twice, etc.
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2010.09.07 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk
THE ENTITY MENU REDESIGN
SKUNK
Thank you.
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Swiftgaze
Elysium Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.09.07 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Letrange Do not get me started on the corp interface...
*fumes*
Corp interface at least enables you to use all the functions that the corporation management offers you. Even though they are very limited.
Try the market, that's where the GUI stops you from doing the things that you're meant to be able to do.
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Kidain
Gallente Rule of Five
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Posted - 2010.09.07 15:11:00 -
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Edited by: Kidain on 07/09/2010 15:11:47 whilst I understand the whole "not at the minute but we have hired people" stance this is THE reason EVE pushes more people away than it should.
I have had so many friends and relatives look at me playing and say: "Looks nice but looks like hard work controlling that".
And it really is. Just the simple act of finding an agent is so long winded and laborious to be embarrassing when you actually stop and think of the number of clicks and sub menus that are involved.
They need to sit down and start again OR let the community code some?
Lets face it how many people play with the standard UI (GUI) in World of Warcraft or Warhammer? Why not let you change the graphical look and layout like there? --------------------------------------
In an infinite universe, the one thing sentient life cannot afford to have is a sense of proportion. - Douglas Adams |
Lonzo Kincaid
Black Bands
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Posted - 2010.09.07 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: OneTimeAt BannedSpank Great post from a great poster. This is a new discovery and no one has ever thought to discuss it yet.
Implying mentioning something once or it being blatantly obvious that it's broken is enough to get it fixed by CCP. ----------------------
Hope that they'll make this game fun again is the only reason i still play. |
OneTimeAt BannedSpank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.09.07 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Lonzo Kincaid
Originally by: OneTimeAt BannedSpank Great post from a great poster. This is a new discovery and no one has ever thought to discuss it yet.
Implying mentioning something once or it being blatantly obvious that it's broken is enough to get it fixed by CCP.
It's been mentioned far more than once before. ~
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Lonzo Kincaid
Black Bands
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Posted - 2010.09.07 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: OneTimeAt BannedSpank
Originally by: Lonzo Kincaid
Originally by: OneTimeAt BannedSpank Great post from a great poster. This is a new discovery and no one has ever thought to discuss it yet.
Implying mentioning something once or it being blatantly obvious that it's broken is enough to get it fixed by CCP.
It's been mentioned far more than once before.
That was my point exactly. ----------------------
Hope that they'll make this game fun again is the only reason i still play. |
Hawk TT
Caldari Bulgarian Experienced Crackers Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.09.07 15:42:00 -
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Edited by: Hawk TT on 07/09/2010 15:42:34 It's already in the CSM agenda:
UI Improvements, Item #1 & Item #2, Low Hanging Fruit: EVElopedia - CSM - Items in Process
The table is sorted by "Score" but you could use Ctrl+F and search for "Trash" ;-) Still waiting for input from CCP... ___________________________________ Science & Diplomacy Manager @ BECKS Circle-of-Two |
Razzor Death
Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.09.07 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowandLight I JUST TRASHED MY ****ING CARRIER
happens to the best of us.
-------------------------------------------------- I'm posting in your thread and I didn't even read the OP v0v |
Ashira Twilight
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Posted - 2010.09.07 15:50:00 -
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I for one, am glad they at least gave us the repair quote option.
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Aessoroz
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Posted - 2010.09.07 15:53:00 -
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So...you ignored the trash it confirmation and deleted your faction fit cnr?
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Bad Princess
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.07 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowandLight
.........Why is "Trash it" and "Make Active" next to each other?!?..........
Men have been asking God a similar question about the female form.
"Why is the snack bar so close to the outhouse?"
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.09.07 16:30:00 -
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Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 07/09/2010 16:30:17
Originally by: Bad Princess
Originally by: ShadowandLight
.........Why is "Trash it" and "Make Active" next to each other?!?..........
Men have been asking God a similar question about the female form.
"Why is the snack bar so close to the outhouse?"
And yet people still snack in the outhouse!
-- Tactical Responder who is Organized and a Leading-edge Linguist |
Awesome Possum
Gallente Isk Relocation Services Stratagem.
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Posted - 2010.09.07 17:00:00 -
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If you're not eating your burritos on the toilet, you're doing it wrong.
They should add a submenu to "trash it" or just take "trash it" off the menu entirely and add an actual "Trash bin" to our in-station screen. ♥
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Amerilia
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Posted - 2010.09.07 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Holland What would you put it next to?
The Trash It option has to go next to something after all, and whether it's show info or change name or whatever else it might be then the risk of errors exists.
You simply put the less used things into a "more" submenu... i have seen this in some games, that way you need to open another submenu for the delete stuff.
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Sky Marshal
IMpAct Corp Grenouilles Volantes
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Posted - 2010.09.07 17:35:00 -
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Edited by: Sky Marshal on 07/09/2010 17:45:09
It is not the only UI problem actually, like the one/two pixels to overload a specific module.
But it is not enough. They already want to make the UI more annoying, as it is now on Singularity.
CCP has a problem with thesaurus. So what were they thinking ? Simple : When we ask for improvements, they understand declination. When we want best, they understand worse. Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist |
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