I really only fly armor active rep or shield buffer Gallente, but if a Neutron Talos wiill fit an XL asb +web+point+mwd + 3 extender rigs - then I might have to give that a try. ;)

also OP his "pathetic 150 dps **** fit" is apparently better than yours. You even have the lossmail to prove it.

150dps from missiles. The drones probably add 500 or more.

He said he killed off the drones and the missile dps killed him. I can't imagine how the rattler had enough cap charges in the cargo hold for it to sustain tank long enough even for a buffer fit bhaalgorn to finally die.

I had 15% left of my buffer until I managed to kill off all of his drones, because every time I popped one, another one would come out from his drone bay.

And a Rattlesnake can pump out 780 drone DPS+the 150-220 from cruise Missiles or Torps.

Add that to the ridiculous buffer and shield passive recharge+ ASB, and that thing is just ridiculous.

It will win not by DPS or buffer, but by chewing down your armor buffer slowly until you eventually die, because the son of a ***** is going from 5% to 100% shields every 40-60 seconds five times in a row.

How about fitting a repper next time? And maybe neuts instead of nos? That way you'd cap him out and his point would fail and you could warp off...

Enormous base Damage. (2 Heatsinks on a Hellcat give you ~900dps)
Fit on wonderful ships. Ships that are designed to deal with the Cap use.
Spectacular damage projection.

The damage types aren't really a problem either, since most people patch their holes (Therm is usually the heardest to patch, btw).


If Lasers are broken, why are Hellcats and AHAX fairly wonderful fleetcomps.

This thread is stupid.

Srs.

Sincerely, The Universe.

These **** talkers clearly have never flown either. They also don't realize that in general, lasers work best on shield ships. A lot of people don't patch that EM hole.

LSE = 2625 Raw HP
XL ASB = 980 Raw HP/cycle
L ASB = 390 Raw HP/cycle

XL ASB > 1 LSE at 12 seconds into the fight.
L ASB > 1 LSE at 28 seconds into the fight.

1600 II = 4200 Raw HP
2x LAR II = 1600 Raw HP/Cycle (800 ea)
1 LAR > 1600 II at 90 sec into the fight (fires at the end of the cycle)
2 LAR > 1600 II at 45 sec into the fight (fires at the end of the cycle)

-Liang

On the test server, every 20 minutes or so.

And unless Rattle has a bullshit OP mod on it or 2, Bhaalgorn always wins.

LSE compares to 800mm plates, not 1600mm. Just as LAR2 compares with LSB2, and not the X-LSB2. Armor setups are given extra large plates, shield setups are given extra large reps. You should know this. ASB doesn't really compare to either setup.

You lost a Bhaal to a Mission Runner?
Were you even pointed?
Could you not cap him and run if you were pointed?
Did you not kill his drones?





So, to be clear... you are not mad now? You just would be mad IF if was on TQ. So this is not rage posting?

I might be necroing a bit here.. Or saying something said a little further up. But I read this and almost died laughing...

Lemme translate this: "I'm angry as hell right now because his free ship used a iWin button that made me lose my free iWin button ship.. Why didn't my ship at always wins, win? Nerf him for beating my iWin button!"

The only interesting thing is what people actually fit, not which ones people mentally equate via some (potentially outdated) model. This means that comparing a LAR to an 800 plate is just silly talk.

-Liang

Would a 1 per ship limit fix it in your eyes Liang? They do add new life to old ships. I'd hate to see them nerfed to uselessness.

Current shield boosters (not ancillary) are playtoys of the rich. You need crystal implants and a Tengu alt AND drugs to make them work in the first place. Balancing something to an obsolete, niche module is borked on many levels.

Did you know that a new XL ASB cyclone can tank 780 DPS for ~163 seconds and will also survive its reload giving it a life expectancy of 386 seconds. It will tank ~300k effective damage and during this time, it is almost wholly immune to neuts. ASBs as a whole are probably fine, but either fitting dual ASB or an oversized ASB is probably a bit too powerful.

As it was meant to be.

-Liang

Interesting numbers...

After 40 seconds (when the large and X-large ASBs run out of charges) you see the following:
LASB: 3900 repped.
LSB: 2400 repped
X-LASB: 9800 repped
X-LSB: 4800 repped.

After 100secs (at the end of reload) you see this:
LASB: 3900 repped.
LSB: 6000 repped
X-LASB: 9800 repped
X-LSB: 12000 repped.

Interesting numbers...

After 40 seconds (when the large and X-large ASBs run out of charges) you see the following:
LASB: 3900 repped.
LSB: 2400 repped
X-LASB: 9800 repped
X-LSB: 4800 repped.

After 100secs (at the end of reload) you see this:
LASB: 3900 repped.
LSB: 6000 repped
X-LASB: 9800 repped
X-LSB: 12000 repped.