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Riho
Gallente i Care.
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Posted - 2010.09.29 09:27:00 -
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grtz to the ppl who are doing it :P
iv tryd to solo gank a tengu undocking... but failed 2 times :P
so im back to ganking easymode haulers and noobships with lots og random stuff in them :) ---------------------------------- Fighting for something
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Katarlia Simov
Minmatar Cowboys From Hell
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Posted - 2010.09.29 15:27:00 -
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Edited by: Katarlia Simov on 29/09/2010 15:28:27
Originally by: Bernadictus Edited by: Bernadictus on 29/09/2010 09:13:30 Don't fly which you can't afford to lose. And yes - flying a pimp Tengu will get you ganked. If you must fly a Pengu, go 0.0 - safer than hi-sex since Dominion 1.0. If you really want to fly a pimped out ship, get an officer fit Damnation, 400k+ ehp.
Or a Golem ? Or even a raven/CNR really ?
Takes a lot less pimping to get a BS into a sexy-good mission runner. Maybe a relatively cheap booster for cap stability (or just t2 if you are smart and manage aggro and cap) and navy BCUs is all it takes to get a permatank and certainly comparable dps to boot. Also drones for frig slapping is much better. Chasing elite frigs with heavy missiles is a real pain.
Anyways, then you get WAY better EHP, what with being a BS, and you have WAY less attractive loot. The combination of being a harder kill and with less potential loot keeps you pretty safe really.
Like anything in eve its all about risk vs reward. A tengu is a fine mission runner for sure, but then you risk being an easy kill for gankers. Being slow and fat (and a little slower completion time for vanilla BS) means slightly slower isk making, but more security.
Working as intended tbh. I like that certain people are making mission running into a more risk profession. It should always have had some element of risk, particularly for super-pimp guys who do nothing but grind the missions.
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Sutskop
PILSGESCHWADER
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Posted - 2010.09.29 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Niccolo Paganini If Concord is unwilling or unable to secure crime scenes, whats the point in running missions?
We should all instead use our alts to salvage wrecks. This will be good for the game and encourage new players. ..... ....... Sigh.
What you're saying is, you were silly enough to get alpha'd at a hisec station, but you want your loot? Come on.
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Moroccan Tourist
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Posted - 2010.09.29 18:27:00 -
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Nerf the 1400 ! Dont fly a pimped one shot ship ! Dont run missions in crowded hubs ! Use KBs to find the junky gankers and make them red !
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Mkiaki
Gallente Progressive Business Solutions
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Posted - 2010.09.29 19:15:00 -
[185]
-opens thread-
-see's random moron crying about loosing pixels-
-laughs so hard he cries and passes out-
-posts in thread-
-gains profit-
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Corncob Spokesperson
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Posted - 2010.10.04 09:02:00 -
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Corncob has never and will never, condone or assist with, the dishonest and distasteful act of suicide ganking the ships of our loyal and law abiding citizens. Corncob does not take bribes, slave women or illicit drugs or a years worth of free Quafe or pink fluffy bunny slippers, as a bribe or fee for standing by while innocents are blown up and their loot stolen.
A once great man stated:
"Originally by Oveur: High security empire space is supposed to be quite safe. If you want piracy, go into areas where it is supported and encouraged, areas that are 0.4 and less. Don't complain that you can't pirate easily in 0.6, you aren't supposed to do it easily. That's the whole point of high security."
Based on this Corncob does its utmost to protect and punish those who step over the line and we will continue to do so. However please understand, Corncob has fallen behind in the war on these villainous persons. Since Corncob was introduced, a slew of changes, ships, weapons and modules have been added for the pod pilots of EVE while Corncob has largely been ignored.
If the status quo is to be restored so that Corncob is able to react and destroy the suiciders before they manage to destroy and grief the law abiding citizens of our great empires, then the deficiencies of Corncob must be addressed post haste!.
Regards
Corncob Spokesperson
[Corncob does not support the ganking of extremely valuable ships in Corncob protected space.. period] |
Professional Retard
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Posted - 2010.10.04 13:14:00 -
[187]
lol, butthurt *****
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Alicia Ryan
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Posted - 2010.10.04 21:19:00 -
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I suggest everyone is ganking in highsec, cause it is profitable, one of the most profitable things ingame atm, if they do so, the game will die... so ccp need to change something about it, it sucks if u can loose a multibillion ship in highsec and cant do anything against it and the ganker can just loose some millions, i dont see the risk vs reward part here is right.
and for the sec hit, u can easily fix that.
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Herrring
Amarr Space Pinatas Co.
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Posted - 2010.10.04 21:44:00 -
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No, the game wont die when suicide gankers kill expensive ships. The ganked will learn that they should only fly tech II fitted ships and leave the officer mods for caps.
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Alicia Ryan
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Posted - 2010.10.04 22:19:00 -
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u think a pithii a type shieldbooster is for a cap?? U dont understand it, rly... what u want to try?
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xeno1008
The Party Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.04 23:51:00 -
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This has happened to me as well, yes I am sick of it, so, I'm going to do something about it
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.10.05 06:18:00 -
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This thread delivers.
Though I have no desire to gank any T3 ships, I have a problem with them.
Considering the capabilities of a T3 ship, flown well and well equipped, a fine vessel for exploration purposes it can be.
And over the summer, I watched T3 ships farming away at....
Sleepers in C4-5? No. 5/10 or better complexes? No. Escalations that take you many jumps deep into lowsec for the rare rewards? Of course not.
High sec radar and complexes.
Low and behold I still manage to get past them with my Cyclone and hack the cans for those days when wormholes are just not opening up and "something" appears in the probes (lots of decryptors to be given away to a RP scientist because I ain't got the time).
The T3 ship has become the Carebear Explorer vessel of choice. And for a high sec radar, or even a simple complex like a Serpentis Hideaway or something like that, it's just overkill. I don't even bother with them any more but if I am bored I will call up a noob in the free wrecks channel if there is a need to blow s**t up.
That I can pass them and out-hack them shows noobs lacking hacking skills.
When I asked this in the exploration channel, I got smacked down most grievously, as if I asked that sort of question that should not be asked - like asking a woman why she has an adams apple for example - as if a nerve was struck.
Then I asked "Ok so who is carebearing it in high sec sites with a T3" and the insults started to fly.
I can take a T1 BC many wormholes to 0.0 and to a radar site (so long it's not those blasted Guristas but I have faction with them and would like to do their missions someday anyway) and solo C1-C2 wormholes, but am I the devil for thinking a T3 for high sec radar and complexes to be overkill? (happens to be the same BC in the sig and it's kept in one piece for a long long time).
I don't care for piracy, or whatever that high-sec murder thing they call piracy, and never minded much for carebears before, for seeing that some people have limited time and cannot put in the commitment for lowsec and 0.0.
But as usual, in EvE, no matter how tolerant you can try to be, people will even manage to test that too. And seeing T3 ships farm high sec sites was not something I could ignore. Knowing what a T3 ship can do, and seeing what is being done with it, it's like ..... well I don't know what that's like. I guess it's like when 10 cops shoot a guy 100 times for having a knife.
So the even something I don't care for, high sec ganking, seems welcome in this case.
Now where are my f**king cookies?
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Alicia Ryan
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Posted - 2010.10.05 09:13:00 -
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there are alot better ways to make isk with a Tengu then Farm Plexes in empire... but thats not the problem. Problem is atm that one Bs can Gank a T3 in Empire, or 3-4Bs can gank a Bs/Marauder in Empire, Ganking was nerved when u needed 8-9Bs to Gank one, but now it is even easier with the huge Alpha of Arties...
It,s not right to go to a mission hub, scan a bit and have an officer Spawn and it,s not fair at all.
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Dark Pony
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Posted - 2010.10.05 09:32:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Pony on 05/10/2010 09:33:49
Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer RANT
C'mon Herzog. You can't expect people who are able to fly T3 to settle for less rite? Why fly a T1 crap cruiser to do a highsec 3/10 when you can enter the gate with your far superior nber-crnser? Enough slots for probe launcher, explo mods and enough tank and gank left to deal with anything opposing you. So far I used a faction Omen and harb for highsec/lowsec small time explo but I would certainly use a T3 crnser if I could. i agree that it is overkill in most cases but so is blob warfare in pvp or having an army of remote reppers.
People choose the safe and easy way and since you need so much utility slots on a 1-ship-for-all exploration setup T3 is the perfect choice. Official Helmet Polisher |
HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:46:00 -
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Edited by: HeliosGal on 05/10/2010 11:47:47 where there is profit , the lesser elements of eve will be. This is a issue why its profit driven
for ccp its a isk sink to a lot of expensive items are destoryed and not droppd in a suicide gank meaning that sure u get profit but expensive stuff vanishes to
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Oguras
Gallente ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:05:00 -
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stop crying, it wasn't even that pimped. also learn that hi sec is not secure and that with greater number in local rises the chance that somebody is going to gank you. also learn that you don't need t3/deadspace/officer/faction crap to run some stupid missions..
..either you'll learn that with time or you'll cry and leave..
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Alicia Ryan
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:18:00 -
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one more stupid poster... read first and then answer pls
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Oguras
Gallente ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.05 18:45:00 -
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That's reply for first post (and maybe few afer that). Would have been stupid to go through those 7 pages..
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Alicia Ryan
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Posted - 2010.10.05 18:59:00 -
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it,s about broken game mechanics... if u can one volley a t3 in empire, something is just wrong, u can kill a officer/faction fit golem/cnr with 3-4bs in empire, ganking got nerved hard, but with the changes to arties it is once more overpowered.
Go to Motsu, wait --> officer Spawn, if u Spawn Concord not on Grid of Gate u have even more time...
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LittleTerror
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Posted - 2010.10.05 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Alicia Ryan it,s about broken game mechanics... if u can one volley a t3 in empire, something is just wrong, u can kill a officer/faction fit golem/cnr with 3-4bs in empire, ganking got nerved hard, but with the changes to arties it is once more overpowered.
Go to Motsu, wait --> officer Spawn, if u Spawn Concord not on Grid of Gate u have even more time...
Cry cry cry...
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Oguras
Gallente ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.05 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Alicia Ryan it,s about broken game mechanics... if u can one volley a t3 in empire, something is just wrong, u can kill a officer/faction fit golem/cnr with 3-4bs in empire, ganking got nerved hard, but with the changes to arties it is once more overpowered.
Go to Motsu, wait --> officer Spawn, if u Spawn Concord not on Grid of Gate u have even more time...
It's not broken. This game is about getting a ship, fitting it for some role and flying it. Pimped out, overtanked marauders are not neccessary for lvl4 missions in hisec nor cost effective. Thats all. Live with it or find some safe place to roll your pimped boat.
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Lost Greybeard
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Posted - 2010.10.06 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: RankOutsider
Originally by: Grarr Dexx CONCORD provides consequences, not protection. Welcome to EVE Online, enjoy your stay.
That very neatly sums up CCPs actions in letting ganking occur outside stations in 1.0 sec systems!
It's happening in Amarr as well.
Actually, iirc, doing it in 1.0, to new players at least, is considered greifing and will get you a nice temporary ban from the game.
The rest of high-sec is fair game, though. ---
If you outlaw tautologies, only outlaws will have tautologies. ~Anonymous |
De'Veldrin
Minmatar CareBears on Fire The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.10.06 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Lost Greybeard
Originally by: RankOutsider
Originally by: Grarr Dexx CONCORD provides consequences, not protection. Welcome to EVE Online, enjoy your stay.
That very neatly sums up CCPs actions in letting ganking occur outside stations in 1.0 sec systems!
It's happening in Amarr as well.
Actually, iirc, doing it in 1.0, to new players at least, is considered greifing and will get you a nice temporary ban from the game.
The rest of high-sec is fair game, though.
If they're in a Tengu, they are obviously not new*, and can safely be considered fair game, regardless.
*Unless of course someone just gave them a T3 capable character, in which case they're still fair game for failing to do their reading before undocking in it. --Vel
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Professional Retard
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Posted - 2010.10.07 00:36:00 -
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still a butthurt little *****
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Dark Eulogy
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Posted - 2010.10.07 06:04:00 -
[205]
+
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Niickollas
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Posted - 2010.10.07 06:39:00 -
[206]
I just have to say this is a awesome post thank you OP
BTW BAM HEAD SHOT
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DuKackBoon
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Posted - 2010.10.07 07:16:00 -
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Edited by: DuKackBoon on 07/10/2010 07:17:14
Originally by: Niccolo Paganini Concord is meant to provide some level of security to pilots
No, it's not. It's merely there to destroy illegal attackers, not to protect you. /thread
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Corncob Spokesperson
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Posted - 2010.10.08 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: DuKackBoon Edited by: DuKackBoon on 07/10/2010 07:17:14
Originally by: Niccolo Paganini Concord is meant to provide some level of security to pilots
No, it's not. It's merely there to destroy illegal attackers, not to protect you. /thread
You are wrong. Read the quote I posted earlier in this thread. That was from the producer of EvE Online and quite a long time ago. However, I have not seen a post from CCP that gives any indication that they have decided to make high security space the way it is deliberately.
Its most probably just another example of idiot creep. Where they make changes to things without thinking of the consequences and then leave it for a few years to fix it. It will eventually be nerfed.
[Corncob does not support the ganking of extremely valuable ships in Corncob protected space.. period] |
Jilly Serkov
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Posted - 2010.10.08 02:34:00 -
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If Concord didn't already know who killed you and when, maybe they might need to waste time cordoning off the wreck - lol. As it is theres no need to investigate, so your wreck is just a pile of space junk. The faster it gets celared up, the happier Concord and the local authorities are.
If you must stay in hisec, avoid Motsu and the like. Is it really that difficult?
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LittleTerror
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Posted - 2010.10.08 03:49:00 -
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I'd never mission run in well, a huge mission hub...
I laugh my arse off every time I see a post like omg wreck thieves and such. Does anyone REALLY bother with that cack? I can run another whole mission in the time it takes to loot and salvage. The bounties more than make up for the crap loot I would have gotten and the loyalty store is a flipping joke I only use it to get implants or skill books and that's it, complete garbage waste of time pointless effort. If I really wanted that super duper chum ship I'll just buy it since I can make more isk faster with out wasting my time.
So HAHAHAHAH I hope you lose your next tengu and rage quit over it
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