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Jason Dunham
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Posted - 2010.09.13 06:33:00 -
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I've used Singularity a lot to practice pvp, test fittings, and see whether a particular ship or fitting worked the way I wanted it to without training for it or spending the ISK on the real server. However, this has gotten much harder recently due to the amount of time it takes once you are training for t2 and t3 ships.
I believe it would be much more beneficial if Singularity allowed you to set your skills to whatever level you wanted, that way we could continue to test ships as our account ages without worrying about the server mirroring before we finished.
That said, I know that a lot of people will set everything to lvl 5 and go play around with capitals, but this could prove very useful to the battle against lag, and gameplay tests in general. I believe that allowing players to set their own skill levels in Singularity will enhance its usefulness, increase the population on Test, and help with gameplay tests of all kinds, including lag.
Jason Dunham
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Chris Bailey
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Posted - 2010.09.13 06:42:00 -
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Doomsday day anyone remember? 500 line queue? They would have to buy more servers
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Jason Dunham
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Posted - 2010.09.13 07:00:00 -
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In order to prevent massive floods of people who just want to fly capitals, CCP can always control the number of capitals that are seeded, to prevent too many from being used at once. This would limit the people who rushed to the server just to try out capitals.
I understand that the beginning would be rough, but the novelty will wear off pretty quickly for most, and then we can use test as a tool, which is what I believe it was intended to be for. It would also help CCP, because they could use whatever players were logged on and wanting to help out to test whatever issue they needed.
Jason Dunham
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ElfeGER
Versatech Co. Blade.
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Posted - 2010.09.13 07:14:00 -
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Sisi is not a 100 ISK pvp server nor a fitting test server
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Shometo
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Posted - 2010.09.13 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: ElfeGER Sisi is not a 100 ISK pvp server nor a fitting test server
Very true, however regardless to what CCP or others say, that is exactly what it has become.
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Cuttlasslord
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Posted - 2010.09.13 21:18:00 -
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Sisi has very little traffic at any given time. There's seldom more than 200 people on Sisi. There's no incentive for anybody to even log in. People still aren't going to live on Sisi just for the simple fact that it doesn't make isk or help them along in their progress in the real game. It could be that they limit the skill setting to anything sub capital... I dunno. I do believe it's unwise just to dismiss the notion all together. If something can be done to help the test server accomplish its purpose, it benefits actual game play in the end. And a test server with no population isn't a test. Just my opinion.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.09.13 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: Cuttlasslord Sisi has very little traffic at any given time. There's seldom more than 200 people on Sisi. There's no incentive for anybody to even log in. People still aren't going to live on Sisi just for the simple fact that it doesn't make isk or help them along in their progress in the real game. It could be that they limit the skill setting to anything sub capital... I dunno. I do believe it's unwise just to dismiss the notion all together. If something can be done to help the test server accomplish its purpose, it benefits actual game play in the end. And a test server with no population isn't a test. Just my opinion.
It's there FOR CCP to test stuff and WE are allowed there to help them find bugs without risking our stuff on the life server. If you don't get that, I'm sorry. Sisi is not there for to test out any possible future fit you didn't train for on TQ and this has been repeatedly stated by the DEVs.
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Georn
VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.14 08:18:00 -
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Edited by: Georn on 14/09/2010 08:19:20 Allthough an EFT Server would be nice at times. It isn't Sisis role and it will never cater for it..
Sisi's main reason for being is so that I can keep sending *****y bug reports about the old turret recoil animation still missing (c; ____________ nerf metagaming, boost fun |
Jason Dunham
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Posted - 2010.09.14 20:25:00 -
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I'm interested in what CCP has to say, I tried to contact them directly, but the GM asked me to post up here instead.
I understand that CCP has set up Singularity to test bugs, but let's be honest, why would you waste time on the test server that could benefit you on the real one? People will only use Test if it benefits them. CCP is giving away skillpoints on test for helping them out, so it's obvious that they are trying to get more people involved in their testing, and they're doing it by allowing you to train for something quickly on Singularity without training it on Tranquility. That isn't my opinion, that is what CCP is doing.
All I'm saying is that instead of rewarding players for attending certain events, CCP could make Singularity a useful tool to players, thus increasing the player pool that they have to use to find bugs and fight lag.
And again, I'm not interested in what forum trolls have to say, you've already posted up, I would like to hear what CCP has to say.
Jason Dunham
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2010.09.15 03:01:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Dunham All I'm saying is that instead of rewarding players for attending certain events, CCP could make Singularity a useful tool to players, thus increasing the player pool that they have to use to find bugs and fight lag.
The play style on SiSi you are promoting (OMG Titan) has nothing to do with testing and will never happen.
Originally by: Jason Dunham And again, I'm not interested in what forum trolls have to say, you've already posted up, I would like to hear what CCP has to say.
CCP has already said NEVER numerous times so the only troll is you. Example.
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Georn
VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.15 06:08:00 -
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Edited by: Georn on 15/09/2010 06:09:11 to his defense.. the search function here IS kinda crappy.. I tried for a bit to find some nice CCP responses to the EFT-Server Ideas, but found only generic: Test server is for CCP to test Stuff, you're welcome to help us - quotes
Yours was better. ____________ nerf metagaming, boost fun |
Jason Dunham
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Posted - 2010.09.15 21:22:00 -
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I am not promoting capital ship flying at all. I do not plan on flying capitals, my initial post talked about t2's and t3's. I do not appreciate being called a troll just because I couldn't find this topic anywhere.
I already said that they could restrict the seeding of capitals, or restrict those skills. But obviously none of you want to actually read my post, you're more interested in insulting me.
However, I appreciate the link to a comment by CCP. That's all I was interested in anyway. If they are so set against it (understandably so, given the failure of last time) then I guess I just won't use Sisi unless I can make a test event.
I should have known posting on the forum was a mistake, I guess I know better now.
Jason Dunham
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2010.09.15 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Georn to his defense.. the search function here IS kinda crappy..
The built in search function definitely (just like the rest of this forum software). My link was, however, the first search result I received via google. :) --
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BigSako
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Posted - 2010.09.16 16:00:00 -
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There are pvp-playgrounds (Free-For-All areas) in FD-MLJ all the time, so what other purpose then doing PvP and test fittings does this have?
Although I have to agree that setting all skills to level 5 (or giving players the ability to do so) is far away from a good idea.
The skillpoints for participating in mass-testing is a nice thing though, it encourages more people to come and it gives those that need something the ability to get it quickly, without wasting 1 month of training.
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Draco Argen
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Posted - 2010.09.16 17:21:00 -
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I know the response, i know the reason. Hell before today I agreed with them.
But heres a thought. Want more people for mass tests? Maybe they should consider letting people fly things they can't on Tranq.
The gift of 2m skill points on Sisi was a good idea. Possibly a solution to this quible. ie "if you want to fly uber ships, join tests" Personally I think people should get a 500k bonus every sync, just to encourage them to log in.
Yes Sisi is not a players fitting zone, or for their benefit. But the more benefit they get from it, the more players test things.
Alternative is gift SP when you log a bug on Sisi.
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Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2010.09.16 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Dunham I'm interested in what CCP has to say, I tried to contact them directly, but the GM asked me to post up here instead.
"To help us test future releases of the game". (q) What could be more clear?
Quote: I understand that CCP has set up Singularity to test bugs, but let's be honest, why would you waste time on the test server
If it's a waste of time - stop talking here and log on to TQ. (GTFO, if it's what you understand better than thorough explanation)
Quote: People will only use Test if it benefits them.
Bug-free game is certainly benefit me, don't know about you. That's why I have five open bugreports right now, and two other attached to a defects.
Quote: CCP is giving away skillpoints on test for helping them out, so it's obvious that they are trying to get more people involved in their testing, and they're doing it by allowing you to train for something quickly on Singularity without training it on Tranquility. That isn't my opinion, that is what CCP is doing.
The latter was exactly what it is. When they REALLY need MASSIVE help from community, they offer a deal. As long as it's not really important, they could live without whiners like yourself.
Quote: All I'm saying is that instead of rewarding players for attending certain events, CCP could make Singularity a useful tool to players, thus increasing the player pool that they have to use to find bugs and fight lag.
I've cleared that for you already.
Quote: And again, I'm not interested in what forum trolls have to say, you've already posted up, I would like to hear what CCP has to say.
Trolls rarely interested in any answer to their posts, you've demonstrated that quite clear already. -- Thanks CCP for cu |
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