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Lord Wilding
EdgeGamers
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Posted - 2010.09.14 08:02:00 -
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PROBLEM: So your corp alliance decides to move halfway across the universe for an op/campaign/shenanigans - cool. You load up your can/GSC/freight container/skiffs (Oh wait...) full of everything you will need and quickly take off in a shuttle/ibis/7x plated Abaddon for your final destination since there are not any of the logistics pilots online to move your stuff. You perk up with joy as one of the logistics pilots with a orca/freighter/JF/carrier logs on and is willing to move your stuff. You attempt to setup a contract and get an error stating you have damaged crystals/mining crystals and you are now 59 jumps out from your original destination with everything in a can(s). You then rage log/punch your desk/cry and contemplate life and why you can't have nice things.
In all seriousness though, what is the reasoning behind the damaged crystals and not being able to contract them? Is it something that would take a lot of development changes to fix?
If it's really that big of an issue, can we at least get a warning telling us that we are putting damaged crystals in a container? Some of us have multiple freight containers worth of modules/items that we need to move whenever we are going halfway across the galaxy. This can get a little frustrating at times when that one little crystal we missed slips in between all the other ammo. It usually leads into a hilarious Vent/TS discussion, but it still sucks.
SOLUTION: Allow contracts to be setup with damaged crystals or give a warning stating that you are putting damaged crystals into a can and it will divide by 0 if you attempt to contract it.
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steave435
Final Agony B A N E
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Posted - 2010.09.14 17:28:00 -
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I agree. As a work around though, you can set up a courier contract to whoever it is you want to move the stuff, and the person can then accept it and break the container to get the stuff that way instead.
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klyeme
Soft War Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.09.15 03:35:00 -
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Or it could just give the person a warning that he is accepting a contract with damaged crystals. This way it will eliminate scams where someone sells miners (or PVPers) crystals that are almost completely broken. To complete a courier contract they will have to return crystals with the same damage or crystals with less damage on them.
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Locin WeEda
Red Frog Investments
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Posted - 2010.09.15 05:21:00 -
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Supported! Red Frog Freight Service
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count sporkula
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Posted - 2010.09.15 08:37:00 -
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Edited by: count sporkula on 15/09/2010 08:40:22 OR solution 2 - give us a dialog option during contract creation that Rips OUT the damaged crystals for us so we don't have to go back to the location to to do it manually ourselves.
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Laura Duran
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Posted - 2010.09.15 14:28:00 -
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Please, yes, do this!
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Shinde Kudasai
Mercurial Freight
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Posted - 2010.09.17 00:07:00 -
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Absolutely.
Mercurial Freight - get it hauled!
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.09.17 01:02:00 -
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Courier contract, certainly. -- [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel] |
Bogatir
Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.17 10:38:00 -
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Totally supported.
Very annoying issue that need solving!!
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Flesh Slurper
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Posted - 2010.09.18 22:55:00 -
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I agree this needs to be allowed. I have had an instance where I needed to contract 50+ rigged ships (many of which I did not have the skills to fly), along with containers of ammo, and a few of them had damaged crystals. I ended up giving up and having the person come to the system to trade with me because that was quicker than finding all of the damaged crystals manually among thousands of items in each container. Plus since I couldn't fly some of the rigged ships, I would have to repackage them to get the crystals out, causing destruction of the rigs. |
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.09.21 16:27:00 -
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Just have the item's name show as red and have a damage column on the items list in the contract. If someone gets scammed at that point, they'll deserve it, and it'll make a lot of stuff far easier. === "The data does not support that polished quality sells better than new features" "Once Incarna and Dust are fully implemented, focus will probably shift far more towards improvement" CCP, FTW? |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.09.21 18:08:00 -
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do this
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Saithe
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Posted - 2010.09.21 19:02:00 -
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Edited by: Saithe on 21/09/2010 19:02:42 Or let us repair them.
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Muncitor Calificat
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Posted - 2010.09.21 19:25:00 -
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Goremageddon Box
Minmatar Guerrilla Flotilla
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Posted - 2010.09.22 11:54:00 -
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or give us a % remaining in the info.
also not supported cus u didnt touch the aspect of possible scamming with it. _______________________ Hottest Character Ever. |
M'aak'han
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Posted - 2010.09.22 21:15:00 -
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Supported, provided some anti-scam stuff comes along.
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Lord Wilding
EdgeGamers
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Posted - 2010.09.23 01:14:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Wilding on 23/09/2010 01:17:38
Originally by: Goremageddon Box or give us a % remaining in the info.
also not supported cus u didnt touch the aspect of possible scamming with it.
CCP could always add the damage percentage in the item attributes like they should have done years ago. Keeping that hidden really doesn't make a massive difference since most people run with spare crystals anyway.
EDIT: Even just adding something like a small icon somewhere on the crystal item's image would be leaps and bounds better than guessing at this point.
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DeftCrow Redriver
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Posted - 2010.09.23 04:26:00 -
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Yes, yes, yes. I jump into that situation from time to time. Don't see the rationale behind not allowing that.
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VC General
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Posted - 2010.09.23 04:43:00 -
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The reason damaged items can't be traded is because of scammers. I don't see how this problem couldn't easily be fixed with the same warning popup you get when accepting a contract for fitted ships or containers in the first place.
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Lord Wilding
EdgeGamers
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Posted - 2010.09.24 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: VC General The reason damaged items can't be traded is because of scammers.
Problem I have with CCP or anyone making this excuse (Not saying that you specifically are) is that it is CCP's own fault if someone gets scammed for crystals. CCP never really decided to add a legitimately decent system for damaged/un-damaged crystals. Plus CCP prides EVE for having a system that allows for scamming and most of the playerbase understands that they can and probably will get scammed. It's not like EVE would be an entirely different game if they allowed damaged crystals to be contracted tomorrow without adding a system showing that crystals are damaged.
Also, do people really make contracts where crystals are the main possession for trade? Most pirate crystals can be bought/sold from the market iirc.
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El Liptonez
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Posted - 2010.09.26 21:18:00 -
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Yes.
How would this be different to scamming with BPCs/BPOs?
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K 219
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Posted - 2010.09.26 23:21:00 -
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Dethmourne Silvermane
League of Gentlemen Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2010.09.27 02:30:00 -
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Haiden Po
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Posted - 2010.09.28 12:01:00 -
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xttz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.09.28 14:53:00 -
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**** yes
There has to be a better way than having to repack all amarr ships
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