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Akisawa
Caldari Path Of The Cursed
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Posted - 2010.09.14 20:19:00 -
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Very interested in how you guys tank your CNRs :/ I never done missions in CNR and have no idea how ship feels, I can grasp the whole "gank-em-all-before-they-damage-you" idea, but as I said, no idea how it plays out
I got 2 CN invuls, and currently struggling between complex boosters: * medium a-type pithum offers somewhat 400ish tank but can run stable * large x-type offers somewhat 600ish tank which can run some 9-10 minutes * x-large x-type offers somewhat 1200ish tank which can run some 2-3 minutes
any ideas/input much appreciated, thanks
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NoNah
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Posted - 2010.09.14 20:22:00 -
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[Raven Navy Issue, New Setup 1] Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Signal Amplifier II
Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Gist B-Type 100MN Afterburner Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile Small Tractor Beam I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Garde II x3 Hobgoblin II x5
If you feel the CN xl booster is to expensive a meta 4 is more than enough. Parrots, commence!
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Caleidascope
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.09.14 22:11:00 -
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7x cruise missile launcher 2
2x shield boost amp 2 1x extra large shield booster 2 1x 100 mn ab 2
3x bcs 2
A bunch of hobgoblins.
Whatever you want for the rest.
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Alberigo
Caldari Alberigoco
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Posted - 2010.09.14 22:47:00 -
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Edited by: Alberigo on 14/09/2010 22:50:27
Originally by: NoNah #2
I took the cheapo faction XL with cap booster approach, as well. I can do without the stability of an undersized complex booster, and appreciate being somewhat less appealing to gankers. Although, I try not to skimp when it comes to damage (within reason -- no officer mods!)
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Akisawa
Caldari Path Of The Cursed
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Posted - 2010.09.15 00:18:00 -
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hmm maybe large booster then with 2xboost amps
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F90OEX
F9X WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.09.15 04:06:00 -
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Edited by: F90OEX on 15/09/2010 04:07:44 I'll give you one when I get home, it's a combo between T2 fittings and Deadspace and not expensive, it perm runs using SB and AB and does not attract attention from gankers.
But make sure you work on your Shield skills, since if there good you will tank any lvl 4 mission.
BTW do you use torps or cruise ?
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Widemouth Deepthroat
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Posted - 2010.09.15 06:36:00 -
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Edited by: Widemouth Deepthroat on 15/09/2010 06:38:03 [Raven Navy Issue, Raven Navy Issue:PVE] Signal Amplifier II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Photon Scattering Field II Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Republic Fleet Target Painter
Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Small Tractor Beam I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Never need swap module and can easy tank any mission if you manage aggro and triggers as per mission guide.
edit: cheaper option is 2 x pithi b-type small shield booster, 2 x invuln, 1 x photon/mission specific hardener, 1 x target painter in the mids. If you feel you need more tank you can swap out sig amp for a DC II.
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.09.15 06:49:00 -
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Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 15/09/2010 06:52:12
I don't have T2 cruise skill, so I use CN launchers which are better with T1 ammo anyways. Since I use T1 ammo I don't bother with a target painter.
Fitting an afterburner made level 4 missions incredibly easy for me.
[Raven Navy Issue, Mission CNR] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Signal Amplifier II
Caldari Navy Photon Scattering Field Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II 100MN Afterburner II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
[empty high slot] Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Warrior II x5
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Akisawa
Caldari Path Of The Cursed
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Posted - 2010.09.15 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: F90OEX Edited by: F90OEX on 15/09/2010 04:07:44 I'll give you one when I get home, it's a combo between T2 fittings and Deadspace and not expensive, it perm runs using SB and AB and does not attract attention from gankers.
But make sure you work on your Shield skills, since if there good you will tank any lvl 4 mission.
BTW do you use torps or cruise ?
gonna use Navy Cruise launchers and faction ammo, cba chasing stuff around with torps =)
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Akisawa
Caldari Path Of The Cursed
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Posted - 2010.09.15 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tau Cabalander Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 15/09/2010 06:52:12
I don't have T2 cruise skill, so I use CN launchers which are better with T1 ammo anyways. Since I use T1 ammo I don't bother with a target painter.
Fitting an afterburner made level 4 missions incredibly easy for me.
Hmm i dont like the idea of not having Target painter Maybe it works for you... but so far I see its either 2-3 TPs needed or full Rigors + 1 TP
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.09.15 13:31:00 -
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I use a cap injector, 3 mission spec active hardeners and a DG large booster (aka it was in my hanger and I cba to buy an xl on contracts)
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Captain Nares
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Posted - 2010.09.15 14:20:00 -
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I used this when I was newb:
[Raven Navy Issue, New Setup 1] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Damage Control II
Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Photon Scattering Field Caldari Navy Heat Dissipation Field
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Drone Link Augmentor I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
I used rat-specific hardeners. Also there were 2-1 CCC's when my cap skills were bad, changed them to rigors l8r.
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Sewer Urchin
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Posted - 2010.09.15 19:41:00 -
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Edited by: Sewer Urchin on 15/09/2010 19:42:10
Originally by: Akisawa hmm maybe large booster then with 2xboost amps
Would not recommend this. As has pretty much been stated already, fit it like you would a regular raven and throw CN stuff in where u want.
Lows: Sig amp, BCS
Meds: 3 hardeners, target painter, xl booster, Heavy Cap Booster
Highs: Cruise Missiles.
Rigs: rigors
It's kind of a pain with the cap boosters I'll agree, but u get much faster completion times than trying to make a cap stable fit or whatever.
Edit: If you're going for an AFK mission running type of deal then I would strongly suggest a different ship.
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Akisawa
Caldari Path Of The Cursed
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Posted - 2010.09.17 00:28:00 -
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Yeah, Im just trying to figure how actually risky is to throw away cap booster and get AB instead :/ --- Improving my day by ruining yours
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.09.17 05:41:00 -
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Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 17/09/2010 05:42:43
Originally by: Akisawa Hmm i dont like the idea of not having Target painter Maybe it works for you... but so far I see its either 2-3 TPs needed or full Rigors + 1 TP
For me there is no damage difference on battlecruisers (2 volleys) and battleships without a painter with tech 1 ammo. Notice I do have rigor rigs.
I one-volley destroyers. Drones take care of frigates, leaving cruisers, though I can still hit both with cruise missiles if I'm in the mood.
I'd only give-up the cap booster if I had a deadspace shield booster.
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Flashh Gorden
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.09.17 07:44:00 -
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Caldari Navy XL Booster the T2 one requires way to much CPU. 2 x Boost amplifiers. The rest of the mids active mission hardners.
Dont waste a target painter on a cruise missile ship you should only be shooting cruiser size and up anyway. Anything smaller than a cruiser your drones take care of.
Low slots 3 BCU and a couple of PDU 2s Done hundreads of missions with this set up as long as you take the right hardners for the right missions you cant go wrong.
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Akisawa
Caldari Path Of The Cursed
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Posted - 2010.09.17 11:43:00 -
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Err wait, you mean to say - if I have 3xrigors (1 rigor II + 2 rigor I) - I can hit cruisers for full damage using t1/navy cruise missiles even without TP?
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Zeta Zhul
Caldari Preemptive Paranoia
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Posted - 2010.09.17 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Akisawa Err wait, you mean to say - if I have 3xrigors (1 rigor II + 2 rigor I) - I can hit cruisers for full damage using t1/navy cruise missiles even without TP?
Yeah pretty much. Personally I like the CN cruise launchers because of the shorter cycle time. With decent skills + implants you can get these launchers to really hose out missile stacks. Additionally don't even bother going for cap stable, it's not worth the effort.
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Von Kapiche
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.17 16:41:00 -
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DG XL, 3 hardeners and a t2 heavy cap booster which rarely gets used, but when it does it tends to get used a lot and save the day. If you were so minded you could take it off for when you know you're not going to need it, but I don't use my CNR all that much. I have one painter which most of the time gets used to help drones take frigs out faster, so mebbe I should rethink that also.
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RavenPaine
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Posted - 2010.09.17 17:32:00 -
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My setup is a litte different than the rest but its always worked for me.
3x DG Balistic Control 2x Power Diagnostic II
1x DG X-Large Shield Booster 2x DG Shield Boost Amp 1x DG Invul Field 2x DG Mission Specific Hardeners
7x DG Cruise Launcher 1x Named NOS (Raysere's reaches out 36 km I think)
2x CCC I 1x CCC II
10x Hobgoblin II 5x Vespa II
I let all the rats get close so I can salvage them easier later, and NOS who I need at the time. I got fixated with DG fittings , but thats just optional. Bought them here and there along the way.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.09.17 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Akisawa Yeah, Im just trying to figure how actually risky is to throw away cap booster and get AB instead :/
throw away the third hardener. on that note there are many missions where I don't even use the cap injector. although at the same time I think there are even less missions where I use the afterburner.
[Raven Navy Issue, CNR t2 cruise] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Signal Amplifier II
Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Ballistic Deflection Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II 100MN Afterburner II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile [empty high slot]
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Hobgoblin II x5 Warden II x3
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Ghengis Tia
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Posted - 2010.09.17 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Nares I used this when I was newb:
[Raven Navy Issue, New Setup 1] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Damage Control II
Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Photon Scattering Field Caldari Navy Heat Dissipation Field
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Drone Link Augmentor I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
I used rat-specific hardeners. Also there were 2-1 CCC's when my cap skills were bad, changed them to rigors l8r.
^^This^^ You can get away with T2 shield hardeners, too. Those 2 Small Shield boosters are sweet, 72 HP per 2 sec cycle, almost no cap use, most of the time you need only 1. Your gank is screamin', and the CNR is doing what it does best, being a ship killing monster.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2010.09.17 20:49:00 -
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Much better setup:
[Raven Navy Issue, PvPvE] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Target Painter II Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo [empty high slot]
Large Core Defence Field Extender I Large Core Defence Field Extender I Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Hammerhead II x5
The setups already posted in this thread should give you a pretty good idea of why you should ignore the worthless NPCs and just kill the carebears. -----------
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Akisawa
Caldari Path Of The Cursed
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Posted - 2010.09.19 01:57:00 -
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Thanks for input everyone, gonna EFT warrior more and more
I am getting the idea to go for large x-type booster, screw cap booster, grab AB, and grab NOS instead of Drone Link aug for that extra cap i may ever need in that rare tough situation (??)
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.09.19 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin The setups already posted in this thread should give you a pretty good idea of why you should ignore the worthless NPCs and just kill the carebears.
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Akisawa
Caldari Path Of The Cursed
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Posted - 2010.09.19 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Merin Ryskin The setups already posted in this thread should give you a pretty good idea of why you should ignore the worthless NPCs and just kill the carebears.
-Liang
I wont use CNR to pop carebears, I got other setups in mind :) While we're at it, Liang, could you please post your mission CNR fit?
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Cyrstal
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Posted - 2010.09.19 12:28:00 -
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Man doesn't anyone use cap stable setups anymore.
7x Caldari Navy cruise missile launchers
1x Gist B-type X-large shield booster 3x Gist hardeners rat specific 1x Dread guristas shield boost amp 1x Cap recharger
2x True Sansha Power diagnostic system 3x Caldari Navy ballistic controls
rigs 3x CCC
Expensive but it works.
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fuxinos
Caldari Guys 0f Sarcasm
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Posted - 2010.09.19 13:48:00 -
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Edited by: fuxinos on 19/09/2010 13:49:04
Originally by: NoNah [Raven Navy Issue, New Setup 1] Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Signal Amplifier II
Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Gist B-Type 100MN Afterburner Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile Small Tractor Beam I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Garde II x3 Hobgoblin II x5
Originally by: NoNah If you feel the CN xl booster is to expensive a meta 4 is more than enough.
Originally by: NoNah
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
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