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Terrorfrodo
Deep Space Darwinian Law Enforcement Agency
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Posted - 2012.08.01 08:30:00 -
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The changes are probably okay, but implementing the idea linked to in my signature would have been far better for everyone! The Invulnerability Sphere:Make mining/industrial vessels defendable, better fights for everyone! |
Inggroth
Fremen Sietch DarkSide.
18
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:16:00 -
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I agree with the sentiment that CCP has taken another step towards highsec being perfectly viable for singleplayer/"treat other players as NPCs" type people. Which is a bad thing (and a whole another topic).
HOWEVER: if you look without bias at exhumer eHP vs. destroyer dps potential post-buff you'll p much have to agree that CCP had to do ~something.
t2 fit catalyst (thats 15mil) can deal 730dps; t1-fit catalyst (thats 3mil) can do 540. Which means that after one-time effort everyone can gank exhumers pretty much for free. And flashy lowsec residents obv. can just do it on their main. Which kinda puts the AFK highsec mining gameplay option right into the dumpster (which is 100% fine by me, but not for CCP). Personally i'd just tweak the Hulk eHP so it is impossible to gank untanked Hulks with a single Catalyst. Problem solved - exhumer-ganking still possible, but requires grouping.
Other than that - as long as they leave t1 industrial eHP as is i dont really care. |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
675
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:26:00 -
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Deacon of Destruction wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Thank you for confirming the new quotes cleverly remove any reference to their original intended use in 'deep space'.
I'm still surprised that high-sec miners never actually adapted to all the suicide ganging and simply carried on getting themselves killed but I suppose that says more about society and their senses of entitlement than it does about internet spaceships.
I have never been suicide ganked even once, I don't know how other people make such big targets of themselves and then expect to have a right to complain. This is where you revealed you were just trollin'. If you had been doing any ganking recently, you'd know that the majority of the miners have learned their lessons well. Easy targets are harder and harder to find. Also, some miners are using their own suicide approach and flying in retrievers and just writing down losses as the cost of doing business. You've become boring in your old age. Go out, shoot something and STFU.
So the miners finally gotten smarter... and now CCP is giving them their 'stupid-mode' back? Jeez...
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baltec1
Bat Country
1760
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:30:00 -
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Inggroth wrote:I agree with the sentiment that CCP has taken another step towards highsec being perfectly viable for singleplayer/"treat other players as NPCs" type people. Which is a bad thing (and a whole another topic).
HOWEVER: if you look without bias at exhumer eHP vs. destroyer dps potential post-buff you'll p much have to agree that CCP had to do ~something.
t2 fit catalyst (thats 15mil) can deal 730dps; t1-fit catalyst (thats 3mil) can do 540. Which means that after one-time effort everyone can gank exhumers pretty much for free. And flashy lowsec residents obv. can just do it on their main. Which kinda puts the AFK highsec mining gameplay option right into the dumpster (which is 100% fine by me, but not for CCP). Personally i'd just tweak the Hulk eHP so it is impossible to gank untanked Hulks with a single Catalyst. Problem solved - exhumer-ganking still possible, but requires grouping.
Other than that - as long as they leave t1 industrial eHP as is i dont really care.
All the miners had to do was fit a tank. Even after these changes they will still need to fit a tank, even in the skiff. |
Inggroth
Fremen Sietch DarkSide.
18
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:39:00 -
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Well i cba actually looking at new exhumer stats, but if you still can sologank untanked exhumers with a bit more effort (1k dps Thorax or something) i dont see a problem. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
574
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Posted - 2012.08.01 10:42:00 -
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Mining barges/exhumer and Brutix are quite close in fact, both can't fit decently tank or gank. The only difference between them that makes mining barges more appealing than Brutix is because you can fly an alternative to Brutix that can fit for both tank and gank, mining barges no.
Welcome mining barges over due changes. brb |
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