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Murauke
Caldari EvE Rookie Collective EvE Rookie Collective Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.23 13:47:00 -
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Hey prop - sorry to see Goons screwed you. In all honesty I think they were looking for any excuse to evict you.
good look with the evac - word of advice to Own... Get your **** safe too, watch your back True.
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Murauke
Caldari EvE Rookie Collective EvE Rookie Collective Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.24 14:21:00 -
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Edited by: Murauke on 24/09/2010 14:21:40
Originally by: Propotkin
Originally by: Innominate Sounds to me like Numenor wanted moons, and was using the proposed expansion of BCA space as an excuse to make it happen. BCA was offered every right in the systems requested EXCEPT for sov and moon control, even as far as being offered goons installing any upgrades he wanted. What was repeated to the BCA alliance was fabricated, pretending that the offer made did not exist, all in order to try and leverage more.
I don't know about anybody else but I didnt know about any offer or counter offers etc, I knew BCA asked for more space but we never heard of what the reply was DOH!
Its painful being a pet - you get crap systems - no moon goo get to a point where you want to expand and are constrained by your overlords... I know of this all to well with TCF... Experience has taught me that your better of becoming a number in a block and forget about the rich-es.
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Murauke
Caldari EvE Rookie Collective EvE Rookie Collective Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.30 12:24:00 -
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Who cares we all know deklien is cursed, I mean every alliance that has occupied it has at some point enploded...
I give it 10 months until deklien is in someone elses hands.
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Murauke
Caldari EvE Rookie Collective EvE Rookie Collective Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.30 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: Murauke on 30/09/2010 14:08:46 lets hope you don't... you have some of the best assets in the game - i know this becuase of the "head banging" against the wall with TCF i had 8 months back..It was the main reason I left Defy at the time - we saw the relationship with TCF was becoming sour, We had enough good people willing to work hard to expand the alliance but we were constained despite feeling we deserved more. (The cloud ring campaign was something we shouldn't had done but hey - we tried)
My opinion is you guys should be in deklien becuase of the pure size you guys have grown too. TCF in my opinion didnt deserve Deklien because they couldn't occupy half of it and didn't have the numbers. This is what frustrated me. At one point Defy was 1600 occupying 5 systems and TCF was 1800 occupying most of deklien other than BCA, Own and then TNT. In the 5 systems we Occupied the only decent asset we had was a Neo moon that DA wouldn't allow us to cap.
And I believe that is where it started to go sour. All I will say is Defi4nt and BCA tried to become a force but in my opinion the leaders and the overloads let the habitants down. I know its business but those who work together and create a "marriage" type partnership are the ones that survive, in that I mean a Win-Win situation where both parties win. Relationships that create a Win-Loss situation are not true partnerships and the so called "looser" will in the end create a no-going back situation like Num and Goons and Redia and DA did.
At times the NC Nap train is just like watching a good Soap, it may be napped - but there is enough political BS to keep the most unpolitical of people entertained.
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Murauke
Caldari EvE Rookie Collective EvE Rookie Collective Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.30 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Altaica Amur
Quote: lets hope you don't... you have some of the best assets in the game - i know this becuase of the "head banging" against the wall with TCF i had 8 months back..It was the main reason I left Defy at the time - we saw the relationship with TCF was becoming sour, We had enough good people willing to work hard to expand the alliance but we were constained despite feeling we deserved more. (The cloud ring campaign was something we shouldn't had done but hey - we tried)
My opinion is you guys should be in deklien becuase of the pure size you guys have grown too. TCF in my opinion didnt deserve Deklien because they couldn't occupy half of it and didn't have the numbers. This is what frustrated me. At one point Defy was 1600 occupying 5 systems and TCF was 1800 occupying most of deklien other than BCA, Own and then TNT. In the 5 systems we Occupied the only decent asset we had was a Neo moon that DA wouldn't allow us to cap.
And I believe that is where it started to go sour. All I will say is Defi4nt and BCA tried to become a force but in my opinion the leaders and the overloads let the habitants down. I know its business but those who work together and create a "marriage" type partnership are the ones that survive, in that I mean a Win-Win situation where both parties win. Relationships that create a Win-Loss situation are not true partnerships and the so called "looser" will in the end create a no-going back situation like Num and Goons and Redia and DA did.
At times the NC Nap train is just like watching a good Soap, it may be napped - but there is enough political BS to keep the most unpolitical of people entertained.
Just... stop, there are many reasons why Defy is no longer in Dek and you listed none of them just BS defending a leadership that screwed it up for themselves and their alliance. Just as an example, the number of people in defy was never representative of it's actual online people or even more so their online and in fleet. During the CR campaign they were lucky to get a 30 man fleet going, I know because I was often one of those 30.
jesus man are you thick and stupid read the post again i do blame the leadership...
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