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Orin Fatch
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Posted - 2010.10.21 10:46:00 -
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nice readup, clever little character
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Guilliman R
Gallente Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.10.21 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Hax Zoidberg Edited by: Hax Zoidberg on 13/10/2010 15:32:12 Unless this has happened twice, I'd like to make a few corrections since it was my Bestower that Darius tried to gank with 3 battleships and failed.
This is my main, and I was 5 or 6 weeks into the game. The courier contract was from Airaken to Jita (8 jumps), 275M collateral, and 12M reward. I was actually doing another contract at the time, but a few mins after accepting his contract, Darius convos me and tells me there'll be a bonus if I hurry. Getting suspicious, I open my assets window and view the contents of his courier package. Hmm, interesting, 106 cap booster 800s. Fairly certain those ain't worth 275M. I tell him it might take me half an hour to an hour to deliver it since I still need to complete my current courier.
I finish up and head over to Jita to buy a new gankbait Bestower since I didn't want to risk one of my rigged ones. I insure it, then stick the best cheapest T1 mods in it. Total cost was about a million ISK.
3x Beta Hull Mod Reinforced Bulkhead Emergency Damage Control 3x Medium Subordinate Screen Stabilizer 'Anointed' EM Ward Reinforcement 2x Salvager I 106x Cap Booster 800 (to fake the courier package)
I wasn't sure where along the route Darius was waiting for me, but I assumed it was one or two jumps out from Jita. If I had checked Jita local, I would've seen him there, but I forgot. I end up going all the way out to Airaken. I even dock at the station to see if he's sitting outside it on an alt. Damnit, nothing. I have no intention of trying to deliver the actual courier package for at least several more hours, so I leave it at the station and head back towards Jita. It's taking me ages since with no inertial stabilizers it takes forever to align. Finally, I jump to Jita, kicking myself for being so slow since I'm thinking he's already gotten bored and left. I've wasted nearly an hour trying to bait a suicide gank and gotten nothing. As I'm aligning to Jita 4-4, someone starts locking me. OMG, it's Darius, in an Apoc. I quickly stop my ship so I don't accidentally warp away. He shoots me a few secs later and gets me to 30-40% shields. I start slowboating at around 100m/s over to his wreck to loot and salvage. 10-15 secs later, a Mega takes a shot at me too. Woohoo, another wreck. My trusty Bestower is still only at 50% or so armor. 10 secs after that, yet another battleship, a Tempest, decides to try his luck against my Bestower. 40% hull. I'm hoping Darius doesn't have any more buddies else I'm going to lose my loot and salvage. Thankfully, there aren't any more attacks on my lowly T1 industrial and I manage to collect most of the loot and salvage since the New Caldari stargate isn't too heavily populated.
A couple mins later, Darius convos me again. I play dumb and ask him why he shot at me and he says he was trying to protect me from the other battleships and accidentally targetted me. He then tells me there's officer mods in that courier package worth billions. I of course promise not to steal them since I tell him I'm no thief. Finally, a few mins later, Darius comes clean and admits it was all a scam. I then inform him IT WAS A TARP! and that the Bestower he threw 3 battleships at was only carrying a few hundred thousand ISK worth of cap boosters I got in Jita. Darius then congratulates me for fooling him and invites me to join Brick Squad. I decline since I don't want him getting free shots at my Bestowers and with 75%+ of my 2M skill points in Learning I wouldn't be of much use in an actual fight. I only made about 10-15M worth off the loot and salvage, so not great money for the hour spent, but it was definitely the most fun I've had in EVE so far.
I shed a tear , Absolutely beautiful! ------
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Xearal
Minmatar SOL Industries Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.21 12:15:00 -
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Oh yes, wonderfull story, IMHO, this is 100 times better to read than somebody that collected some carebear tears. Not because the scammer got scammed ( though that was fun too ), but because both sides had an excellent time, trying to outsmart the other. I think I might go back to my blockade runner and see what mischief I can find with that... When did those fancy new noctis BPOs get added to the game again?
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Claire Voyant
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Posted - 2010.10.21 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Rasz Lin Niarja (0.5) sensor boosted geddon ConRim (same ticker) in instalocking frig scanned in 1 sec, I aligned and waited with warp a good 5 seconds after geddon locked me
[01:44:15] Rasz Lin > is 4 plex too low to gank me? :( [01:44:22] ConRim > yes
WTF.........
Can anyone confirm that PLEX ever drop? Or are the CCP conspiracy theories really true?
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Krevnos
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Posted - 2010.10.21 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Claire Voyant
Originally by: Rasz Lin Niarja (0.5) sensor boosted geddon ConRim (same ticker) in instalocking frig scanned in 1 sec, I aligned and waited with warp a good 5 seconds after geddon locked me
[01:44:15] Rasz Lin > is 4 plex too low to gank me? :( [01:44:22] ConRim > yes
WTF.........
Can anyone confirm that PLEX ever drop? Or are the CCP conspiracy theories really true?
I can confirm that they drop approximately 50% of the time. I can provide API verified proof if needed. I can't post these on the forum due to confidentiality restrictions but please feel free to contact me in-game.
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Saul Reaver
Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.10.22 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Darius III Here's a little tale about a ganker getting duped.
I am teaching a few guys new to the gank scene a few tricks. But the gates are slow, really dismal. Can't teach guys without targets right? So I try to drum up a little business. I make courier package along our route, 7 M isk reward, 375 M isk collateral. Since I don't see anyone to gank, I figure we get the courier, and thus the collateral. I stick 172 cap 800's in courier to Jita, as noted above. BAM 4 minutes later it gets picked up... by a three week old character -Jackjpot! Wait a while for the guy but dont see him. Strike up a convo, ask when delivery will be. An hour or two says he. Damn ADD kicking in, so.. If you get it done 45 minutes I pay double. He says ok....
AH HA! 30 mins later here comes untanked bestower heading down the pipe. Heh heh heh. Three cargo II's and no cargo. 15 minutes later Voila! Here he is! Bestower...stealth scanned out at 172 cap 800's. Oh man!
I order the hit, sure to get my millions of isks! Boss? The radio crackles to life? Yes? Hit victim XXXX ? YES! then silence... He's doen.. No wait half shields! SECOND SHOOTER FIRE SECOND SHOOTER FIRE I order bewildered about him being alive still... Second shooter in this case was my alt, I had forgotten I put myself into the rotation... BAM the 1400 resound with but for the lack of particles in space-what would have been a powerful blast-and pfft down to minimal shields... WTF? THIRD SHOOTER FIRE FIRE FIRE.. Boss? Yes I answer? third shooter already fired.
Silence
Not knowing what went wrong, I convo the "victim": Hey man sorry I accidentally fired on you, I saw the guys aggress you and i have a load of officer items in that courier contract and shot you by mistake trying to cover you. I really need that delivery-It is worth well over 1,2 Bn isk. So please dont open the box. Ok he says. I will deliver it AFTER I go pick up the cap rechargers you tried to scam me with...
WAIT. What? Yes, you see Mr. Scammer/Ganker I wondered what you were up to when you asked for speedy service, so I remotely viewed the contents of that courier. Then I went past you and duped you in my unfit bestower.Then I replicated the courier box with same contents........ And then put my tank on, thought I would see what you would try. Worst case is I lose 2 M isk bestower and you lose sec and bs. Enjoy
I was stunned as it sank in. This three week old courier boy, he.. he...well he played me out as if my name was Sega. Which it isnt, but still. I immediately tried to recruit him, but he thought it was me trying for revenge.
Live and learn they say. This guy... he got me good. Well Played M-Z truly epically well played. Defeat and stunned silence is all I can offer.
Suprise buttsex 4tw ----------------------------------------
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.23 11:58:00 -
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Good read! Thanks!
Originally by: CCP Navigator Great story but you probably want this in CAOD so feel free to post there with your main.
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Smelly McTaintStain
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Posted - 2010.10.29 11:50:00 -
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I am think you deserving what you getted from whom pilot you wood gank try on.
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Darius III
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Posted - 2010.11.11 11:49:00 -
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Soo theres another post from the perp, well victim, aww crap whatever. Hax just stole 60 Bn isk
He is a Thief! And also: The Game
Well done Hax!
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admiral fovios
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2010.11.11 12:57:00 -
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And people say that couriering is dealthy boring.
Well, they're right. This guy's been playing for four months and has now experienced everything as good as its going to be.
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Tijai Betula
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Posted - 2010.11.11 13:08:00 -
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good story both guys
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Sedilis
Lead Farmers
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Posted - 2010.11.11 14:15:00 -
[42]
Nice write-up
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ElJo123
Sons Of 0din Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2010.11.12 21:28:00 -
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Expected some inane boast story and/or crap tears. Didn't work out.
Very, very nice!
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Julienne Poirier
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.11.13 01:39:00 -
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+1 read
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Lusulpher
Sinister Elite Supremacy.
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Posted - 2010.11.13 11:24:00 -
[45]
Excellent stuff, makes me want to smuggle.
Creative Customer Person 7 |
Dark Eulogy
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Posted - 2010.11.13 12:11:00 -
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Marakesha
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Posted - 2010.12.19 02:39:00 -
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I was up to my usual tricks, making contracts to kill the courier, and who takes and delivers all my contracts? Hax. RAWWRRRR man, don't be so damned efficent. Leave some cake for the nubs =D
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SFX Bladerunner
Minmatar Aperture Science inc.
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Posted - 2010.12.19 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Adophnil You probably got outplayed by an alt, not a three week old player.
That's kind of obvious.
A 3 week old player being able (and willing) to dish down 375mil COLLATERAL for a courier contract?... that's either some very heavy down-to-business newb or some alt backed with isk from his/her main.
This fail could have been averted, all I can say really. __________________________________________________
History is much like an endless waltz, the three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.. |
Mr Dilkington
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Posted - 2010.12.19 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: Rasz Lin Niarja (0.5) sensor boosted geddon ConRim (same ticker) in instalocking frig scanned in 1 sec, I aligned and waited with warp a good 5 seconds after geddon locked me
[01:44:15] Rasz Lin > is 4 plex too low to gank me? :( [01:44:22] ConRim > yes
WTF.........
No one with experience of suicide ganking will try to pop you if all you have is one stack of stuff.
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SFX Bladerunner
Minmatar Aperture Science inc.
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Posted - 2010.12.19 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Dilkington
Originally by: Rasz Lin Niarja (0.5) sensor boosted geddon ConRim (same ticker) in instalocking frig scanned in 1 sec, I aligned and waited with warp a good 5 seconds after geddon locked me
[01:44:15] Rasz Lin > is 4 plex too low to gank me? :( [01:44:22] ConRim > yes
WTF.........
No one with experience of suicide ganking will try to pop you if all you have is one stack of stuff.
For those still going "WTF".. this is due to cargo drop/destroy mechanics.
1 stack of 100mil worth has a lower netto drop value than 10 stacks of 10mil worth. It's all about the math yo! __________________________________________________
History is much like an endless waltz, the three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.. |
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Hax Zoidberg
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Posted - 2010.12.19 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: SFX Bladerunner
Originally by: Adophnil You probably got outplayed by an alt, not a three week old player.
That's kind of obvious.
A 3 week old player being able (and willing) to dish down 375mil COLLATERAL for a courier contract?... that's either some very heavy down-to-business newb or some alt backed with isk from his/her main.
This fail could have been averted, all I can say really.
Believe what you want, but it's easy to make 50M+ couriering for several hours, even if you have very little starting capital. Multiply that over the course of a couple weeks and it adds up. The more ISK you have for accepting larger collateral contracts, the more money you can make.
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2010.12.19 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: SFX Bladerunner
Originally by: Mr Dilkington
Originally by: Rasz Lin Niarja (0.5) sensor boosted geddon ConRim (same ticker) in instalocking frig scanned in 1 sec, I aligned and waited with warp a good 5 seconds after geddon locked me
[01:44:15] Rasz Lin > is 4 plex too low to gank me? :( [01:44:22] ConRim > yes
WTF.........
No one with experience of suicide ganking will try to pop you if all you have is one stack of stuff.
For those still going "WTF".. this is due to cargo drop/destroy mechanics.
1 stack of 100mil worth has a lower netto drop value than 10 stacks of 10mil worth. It's all about the math yo!
Can you explain the math ?
I understand that with the the four plex stacked seperatley you are far more likely to at least get one of them yet the odds of getting all 4 would be far lower.
Its probably not a matter of math for me but an understanding of the drop algorithm used.
I was under the impression that they went item by item and made an independent 50/50 coin flip. But I guess that isn't it because i've yet to see a KM where every single item dropped or not a single item dropped.. Or say 90% either way)... out of the many thousands of kms i've seen i should ahve seen some 10 in a row strings of heads or tail.
What are the mechanics?
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Dobri M
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Posted - 2010.12.20 06:11:00 -
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Clue. Hax has one. Welcome to EVE.
Nice writeup, guys. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
+1
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Marakesha
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Posted - 2011.01.09 14:29:00 -
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Hax certainly works hard for his iskies-he accepts nearly 30% of my night time jita originated contracts
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Foxgguy2001
Gallente Second Hand Lions Redneck Rage
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Posted - 2011.01.09 15:09:00 -
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Was a great read! Very well written and entertaining! Bravo! |
Soldarius
Caldari Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.01.10 05:23:00 -
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This thread is full of win. I approve of this product and/or service.
Originally by: Manowar With dreams to be a king first one should be a man.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Black Legion.
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Posted - 2011.01.10 15:05:00 -
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Heh, it was good from the start. And got better. Who would've thunk.. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen. |
Theodoric Darkwind
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Posted - 2011.01.11 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Cantina Pinata a 3 week old char that has the cash to pay 375m deposit? This guy makes 500m+ a month in a bestower?
0/10
Probably an alt. I have been playing about 3 weeks and have made maybe a little over 1/10th of that collateral. Only way I could see making that kind of iskies with a hauler is doing null sec contracts in a blockade runner. Though I have run a few 1-2mil reward contracts just hauling salvage out of a nearly dead lowsec system.
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foksieloy
Minmatar Universal Army
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Posted - 2011.01.11 10:35:00 -
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I am shocked to have such a quality read here.
Are you sure you didn't miss the forum?
gg to the ganker and gankee. _______________________ Drink Eau du Nichup«, the taste of heaven. Now available as Nichup Citrus« as well! |
Marakesha
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Posted - 2011.01.19 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: foksieloy I am shocked to have such a quality read here.
Are you sure you didn't miss the forum?
gg to the ganker and gankee.
I agree. Was refreshing to have something worth reading in here
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