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Mister Agreeable
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Posted - 2010.10.06 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: King Rothgar stuff
OMFG. Looks like CEO should just replace some staff with monkeys, will result in better mission design.
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Caldari citizen52145894561
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Posted - 2010.10.07 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Von Kapiche What's that mission called where you blow up a hulk, and then a bunch of rogue Amarr BS? no bounty, no loot, no salvage, terrible LP and if you get a bit close they tear giant chunks out of your tank. And it always seems to come up when you can't really kill your standings any further...
I got that mission, took an hour to kill 11 battleships at 50km, and I had to come back in a speedy 10 MN ABII frigate to salvage about 3 mil of stuff, and thats it, so alltogether with reward its 5 mil for an hours work
I could mine roids in my battleship for more isk...
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Lady Ayeipsia
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Posted - 2010.10.07 18:25:00 -
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Edited by: Lady Ayeipsia on 07/10/2010 18:25:48 Driving a Wedge....
Hey... here's a 2 part mission where you get to screw up both your Gallante and Minmitar standings. Reject it... well, how about a 2 part mission where you screw up your Minmitar and Gallante standings
I hate that one so much. One of my worst days missioning... I use a level 3 agent. He's in a station with a slightly worse level 3 agent. The normal one, Driving a Wedge... OK, I'll reject it, use the 2nd agent with less quality for 4 hours, my play time should be over by then and tomorrow back to the normal guy. Check the 2nd agent... Driving a wedge So annoying! Thank god I have a probe ship in that spot too!
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Iguanoid
Caldari The 5th Freedom Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.10.07 19:56:00 -
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Worst mission in game in terms of balance, scaling and risk vs reward is the lvl 5 storyline Mote in the Eye. Pays 10% of a standard lvl 5 mission for a full on combat mission usually in low sec. Lvl 4 Data Transaction pays 15mil to run an item 1 or 2 jumps in a shuttle, lvl 5 full on hardass combat storyline in low sec that takes 90 minutes pays under 6mil. Go figure that one out... --
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VC General
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Posted - 2010.10.07 22:35:00 -
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There's one called Mining Misappropriation, level 4. Start off killing a Hulk about 50 km away. After killing it, you have waves of Amarr BS called "Suicide Squad". The DPS they do is along the lines of 2k per ship, and they can hit for full damage at 55km+. None of the ships have bounties either, and the salvage is pathetic. I had to switch to a Pith A-Type large shield booster, and drop my TP and AB for a full rack of hardeners and boost amps. Anything even slightly less, and the later spawns would melt my Golem's tank before it even got into my max T2 torp range.
So in a nutshell, you have to kill 11 BS in waves of 3-4 each. They all do damage on par with Sleeper BS, and they have no bounties, poor loot, poor salvage, and the mission pays about 1 mil and 1-2k LP's.
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Saul Elsyn
INTERSTELLAR ENTERPRISE
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Posted - 2010.10.08 19:53:00 -
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You know, to me killing battleships that are an actual threat sounds like fun. A pity about the loot though.
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DrBmN
Axial tilt Omega Vector
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Posted - 2010.10.08 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: vekol There's a mission, I think L1, where you have to find a doll. It's hidden somewhere in a asteroid and at the mission location there are 40 Asteroids, the doll drops from the last one mined and all give just 1 Veldspar.
oh god, thats a terrrible one, i remember it
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Tom Peeping
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Posted - 2010.10.08 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: VC General There's one called Mining Misappropriation, level 4. Start off killing a Hulk about 50 km away. After killing it, you have waves of Amarr BS called "Suicide Squad". The DPS they do is along the lines of 2k per ship, and they can hit for full damage at 55km+. None of the ships have bounties either, and the salvage is pathetic. I had to switch to a Pith A-Type large shield booster, and drop my TP and AB for a full rack of hardeners and boost amps. Anything even slightly less, and the later spawns would melt my Golem's tank before it even got into my max T2 torp range.
So in a nutshell, you have to kill 11 BS in waves of 3-4 each. They all do damage on par with Sleeper BS, and they have no bounties, poor loot, poor salvage, and the mission pays about 1 mil and 1-2k LP's.
try paly on that one. piece of cake
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VC General
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Posted - 2010.10.09 01:41:00 -
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Originally by: Saul Elsyn You know, to me killing battleships that are an actual threat sounds like fun. A pity about the loot though.
Yeah, it would be awesome if all the missions were like that, but there's literally no reward for this one. If they just gave the ships reasonable bounties, I would love this mission.
As for the pally making it easy, sniping is always easy. I imagine soiling my Golem's hardpoints with cruise launchers would have the same effect.
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2010.10.09 09:44:00 -
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1) New Frontiers, a 7-part mission.
The first part is interesting, but the mission is often 5 jumps away from the agent. One needs to shoot and mine, and if one wants to salvage the wrecks as well, then it becomes a lot of back'n'forth to get all the stuff home.
Part 2-7 are then two transport missions and the rest is all just fights against drones, with no bounties, no sec. status increase and a lot of energy neut. towers, web. towers, etc., making the seven part mission an unrewarding task.
2) Driving a Wedge.
I always decline the mission as it is against another empire faction. Once you decline it does the agent give you the same mission again, only against a different empire faction. If you do not want to pick a side in the faction war then this mission forces a 4 hour break onto you. Apparently is this intended, but it really only sucks for me. --
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.10.09 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: VC General Mining Misappropriation
hmm I haven't gotten that in ages, but the last time I ran it they all dropped 1 or 2 (maybe even 3?) of the 750k amarr tags, plus some decent loot.
they had pretty high dps for mission ships but nothing overwhelming.
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2010.10.09 12:06:00 -
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You have to bear in mind that CCP didnt intend for people to be running missions continuously.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.10.09 12:53:00 -
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Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 09/10/2010 12:55:24
Originally by: Brian Ballsack You have to bear in mind that CCP didnt intend for people to be running missions continuously.
Also, the OP for some reason states missions are to grind ISK. They are not. They are to spend your time and have fun besides making ISK. If something in a paid game is not fun, then there's no reason to pay and that's not a game.
About missions:
My first mission ever was well before the L4 nerf and the changes that make people get missions away from the mission hub.
Though, still fresh from tutorial I went to a L1 Q -9000 agent in Bei and he asked me to fetch him cigarettes. He happily sent me (*before the missions changes*) 23 jumps away, many in low sec. Of course the route just HAD to go thru Rancer and guess what happened.
Another mission I find it's stupid at best is to mine gas (one of those given by industry NPC corps). BC rats will hammer the poor ship and when I did it, I took 45 minutes to finish it. The pay was like a spit in the face.
Other missions that are stupid are those L4 like "duo of LOL", "Serpentis spies" (handful of worthless NPCs 120km + away from arrival point)
I also did FW missions. Expecially r*tarded is the one you may get at Esesier (deep low sec, near 0.0), 14 jumps including Heydelies and other "enter with PvE ship here and LULZ happen" systems. The final system is in high sec (!) so if you are negative sec you get NPCs on your face plus when you finish, you will end in the perma-gatecamp at the hi sec => low sec passage. The actual mission? Ended up with having to kill 3 Caldari NPC frigates... Of course, the "reward" for mission completed sucked hard nuts as well.
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Doragon Makina
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Posted - 2010.10.10 06:47:00 -
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Duo of death, item far away 50KM, some disgusting spider drone make your speed 1.5m/s
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Pytria Le'Danness
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Posted - 2010.10.12 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: Doragon Makina Duo of death, item far away 50KM, some disgusting spider drone make your speed 1.5m/s
The Serpentis variant is pretty decent, especially if you let the Duo close in before you kill them.
My most-hated mission is either
L4 Buzz Kill Lots and lots of frigates you have to kill - so many that even a decent BS tank is threatened. You have to refit extensively if you want to be efficient, but locking and shooting them still takes an eternity because you have to switch targets so often. Looting and salvaging is a chore as well.
or
L4 Smash the Supplier Kill a POS belonging to an empire faction in a deadspace site that does not admit battleships (hmm, according to the mission site it does, I haven't run this mission for ages), yet enough hostiles spawn to easily threaten a mission BS. If you use a ship there that can tank the incoming damage your dps is extremely low so the mission takes ages. Compounded by the need to loot all the wrecks if you want a reward.
Hard choice. If pressed I'm chalk up Smash the Supplier as most-hated one I guess.
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Cyniac
Gallente Twilight Labs
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Posted - 2010.10.12 10:08:00 -
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Edited by: Cyniac on 12/10/2010 10:10:58 Edited by: Cyniac on 12/10/2010 10:10:36 I'm surprised no one has brought this up yet.
By a wide margin my vote goes to the Gallente Experimental Storyline missions. (stuff like Mining Base Camp - Lai Dai Corporation)
I once got one of these when out in Solitude, now I don't mind a bit of a challenge but ... a 39 jump there and back trip (20 of which through lowsec) in a battleship for less than 5 million ISK? And this is a storyline you know the ones you look forward to after having blasted through 16 other missions.
I'll leave the actual griping around the mission to the various threadnaughts on the matter.
Guess its worth mentioning that it's the only mission so absolutely horrid that even CSM brought it up with CCP.
((Edited as my forum mojo failed me!))
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Nsig
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Posted - 2010.10.12 16:37:00 -
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hmm
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Kuso Tabeteshine
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Posted - 2010.10.12 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: VC General There's one called Mining Misappropriation, level 4. Start off killing a Hulk about 50 km away. After killing it, you have waves of Amarr BS called "Suicide Squad". The DPS they do is along the lines of 2k per ship, and they can hit for full damage at 55km+. None of the ships have bounties either, and the salvage is pathetic. I had to switch to a Pith A-Type large shield booster, and drop my TP and AB for a full rack of hardeners and boost amps. Anything even slightly less, and the later spawns would melt my Golem's tank before it even got into my max T2 torp range.
So in a nutshell, you have to kill 11 BS in waves of 3-4 each. They all do damage on par with Sleeper BS, and they have no bounties, poor loot, poor salvage, and the mission pays about 1 mil and 1-2k LP's.
Yeah those guys don't mess around. TP Golem is one of the last ships I would use for it for obvious reasons. It's a snap with a NM tho as long as you manage to stay out of range. This mission would be great if there were bounties. No frigs/cruisers to piddle around with.
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.12 21:30:00 -
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The one where you have to collect all the dolls, which I think may also be the one with the hidden beacons you have to discover. I think it was so bad it was removed.
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Kuso Tabeteshine
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Posted - 2010.10.12 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Doragon Makina Duo of death, item far away 50KM, some disgusting spider drone make your speed 1.5m/s
LOL yeah whoever came up with that one is pure evil. Takes 30 seconds to clear the pocket, except those two ceptors. Even warrior2s take a while to kill them.
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RutilusUnus
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Posted - 2010.10.12 21:44:00 -
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Edited by: RutilusUnus on 12/10/2010 21:46:14
Originally by: Pytria Le'Danness
Originally by: Doragon Makina Duo of death, item far away 50KM, some disgusting spider drone make your speed 1.5m/s
The Serpentis variant is pretty decent, especially if you let the Duo close in before you kill them.
My most-hated mission is either
L4 Buzz Kill Lots and lots of frigates you have to kill - so many that even a decent BS tank is threatened. You have to refit extensively if you want to be efficient, but locking and shooting them still takes an eternity because you have to switch targets so often. Looting and salvaging is a chore as well.
or
L4 Smash the Supplier Kill a POS belonging to an empire faction in a deadspace site that does not admit battleships (hmm, according to the mission site it does, I haven't run this mission for ages), yet enough hostiles spawn to easily threaten a mission BS. If you use a ship there that can tank the incoming damage your dps is extremely low so the mission takes ages. Compounded by the need to loot all the wrecks if you want a reward.
Hard choice. If pressed I'm chalk up Smash the Supplier as most-hated one I guess.
THIS!!!!!
I'll take Pirate Invasion any day
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VC General
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Posted - 2010.10.12 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kuso Tabeteshine
Originally by: VC General There's one called Mining Misappropriation, level 4. Start off killing a Hulk about 50 km away. After killing it, you have waves of Amarr BS called "Suicide Squad". The DPS they do is along the lines of 2k per ship, and they can hit for full damage at 55km+. None of the ships have bounties either, and the salvage is pathetic. I had to switch to a Pith A-Type large shield booster, and drop my TP and AB for a full rack of hardeners and boost amps. Anything even slightly less, and the later spawns would melt my Golem's tank before it even got into my max T2 torp range.
So in a nutshell, you have to kill 11 BS in waves of 3-4 each. They all do damage on par with Sleeper BS, and they have no bounties, poor loot, poor salvage, and the mission pays about 1 mil and 1-2k LP's.
Yeah those guys don't mess around. TP Golem is one of the last ships I would use for it for obvious reasons. It's a snap with a NM tho as long as you manage to stay out of range. This mission would be great if there were bounties. No frigs/cruisers to piddle around with.
Yeah, I just got a NM. Loaded up 80km ammo, and sniped them. It's a lot easier, but the mission is still a waste. Even the Hulk is a PITA. I'd like to see a Hulk that can take 5 volleys from a Golem or NM before going down.
Maybe I've just been unlucky, but I've never gotten decent tags off those guys, and I usually have 5-10 armor plates after salvaging them. They have dropped a few nice guns, but not enough to justify running this mission instead of just declining and doing whatever Blood mission pops up.
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JackStraw56
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Posted - 2010.10.13 06:12:00 -
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Originally by: Pytria Le'Danness L4 Smash the Supplier Kill a POS belonging to an empire faction in a deadspace site that does not admit battleships (hmm, according to the mission site it does, I haven't run this mission for ages), yet enough hostiles spawn to easily threaten a mission BS. If you use a ship there that can tank the incoming damage your dps is extremely low so the mission takes ages. Compounded by the need to loot all the wrecks if you want a reward.
Hard choice. If pressed I'm chalk up Smash the Supplier as most-hated one I guess.
Smash the supplier does allow battleships and is doable without much trouble with a proper strategy. I use an artillery Maelstrom with an afterburner. Just start burning away from the rats as soon I warp in and snipe them as I go. Low slots are completely full of gyros and tracking enhancers just like any other mission, no damage sacrifice required.
Granted you do need to loot the wrecks for the tags, but one run will get me enough tags to buy a RF gyro from the LP store.
There are much worse missions out there for me. Buzz kill is one, it's an instant decline.
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Mikhail Dmitriev
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Posted - 2010.10.15 07:35:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones Massive Attack. Ugh.
Waste of time. Level 4 that plays like a level 3.
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.15 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: vekol There's a mission, I think L1, where you have to find a doll. It's hidden somewhere in a asteroid and at the mission location there are 40 Asteroids, the doll drops from the last one mined and all give just 1 Veldspar.
Winner! No contest. I believe it's actually a 5 part mission where you have to get a doll in each part. However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs. second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
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Rellana
DAB Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.10.17 06:19:00 -
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1) New Frontiers, a 7-part mission.
I loathe that mission with a passion as the damn energy neuting towers are a pain to deal with. I brought a harby into it the first time and the damn towers destroyed my cap,also the rogue drones that liked switching targets to my hammerhead II's that were on the towers didn't help either.
3 Energy neut towers in a lv3 mission don't add to the fun factor for anything active tanked, whoever thought adding them to a lv3 mission needs his head examined.
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Caldari citizen52145894561
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Posted - 2010.10.17 06:46:00 -
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Originally by: Rellana 1) New Frontiers, a 7-part mission.
that was the first lvl 3 mission I said "**** this I'm getting a duel rep apoc", after that I could do almost any lvl 3 mission in an apoc, there were still a few lvl 3 storyline missions that just throw **** at you and if you dont gtfo in time you WILL lose your ship.
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Lady Parity
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Posted - 2010.10.17 12:36:00 -
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Mining Misappropiation is boring and slow, never had any issue with my tank breaking though, I do tend to decline it, that and 'The Assault', cant stand being jammed for ages
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