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munnybunny
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Posted - 2010.10.03 02:51:00 -
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I am very hesitant about buying a freighter due the the fact of a suicide gank. How often do these ganks usually happen. I plan to really just move ships and ore in it autopiloting. Anything of real value will be moved in a transport ship manual controlled.
still worried about losing a full 2 months worth of play time and its contents =X
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Arkanor
Gallente Ixion Defence Systems
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Posted - 2010.10.03 03:08:00 -
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Consider what it takes to crack a freighter, usually multiple (8+) battleships last I figured. Although BC's might make it cheaper now
The general consensus is that >1B in a freighter can tend to be risky, so I wouldn't haul more than that. Most freight services won't accept more than 1B as collateral, so take that as you will.
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ForumWarrior
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.10.03 03:43:00 -
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Auto piloting a freighter is not "If" you'll be ganked, it's "when" - lowering the value of the cargo does significantly lower the statistical chances of it happening in a given day, but lower is not remove.
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Claire Voyant
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Posted - 2010.10.03 04:29:00 -
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I have survived an attack by 18 battleships in a 0.5 system. I was probably hauling about 2 billon in cargo at the time. 1 bil in cargo is generally considered "safe" but you never know when a bored bunch of gankers might decide to make one last kill for the hell of it.
Additional rules of thumb: train Mechanic level V to maximize your hit points, avoid 0.5 systems if possible (especially the ones on the main routes), and avoid autopilot. But the main rule in Eve is as always, don't fly what you can't afford to lose.
The risk is not high, but if you really can't afford it, consider using Red Frog Investments for your hauling needs.
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Ave Volta
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.10.03 05:42:00 -
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Consider that we at RF Freight have moved tens of thousands of freighter loads with only a couple of suicide ganks ever. Most freighter pilots I know have never been successfully ganked.
That being said you can reduce the overall risk by moving 1B in value or less. --------------------------------
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.10.03 08:36:00 -
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1) You can sensibly lower your risk by training tanking skills to IV or V
2) Unless you go above 1B, few will bother
3) Going autopilot WILL get your freigther dead sooner or later. Because one day a CCP bug (happened few months ago) or you forgetting to reset some settings, your freigther will route in low sec. Not having someone to check the last 3-4 jumps (when they are > 20-ish they scroll off) will eventually put you in trouble.
4) Always recall that one day someone could just be bored enough to kill it even if it's empty. This is also EvE. - Auditing & consulting
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.10.03 10:36:00 -
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heh at 1b in cargo I figure they would be much more interested in mission runners. smaller group sizes, more targets, similar isk rewards. at 10 gankers, and I'm doubting 10 could do it, to kill a freighter you are looking at an expected payout of 50m each which just doesn't sound worth it to me, considering how often freighters with that much in loot come by (when I suicide gank I scan freighters just to see the kinda **** they carry, ooh look he has a lot of... looks up market value... whole lotta junk).
if you could get one every 20 mins or so then yea sure I'd go for it. but the way it is I probably wouldn't mobilize for less then 4b. I may just be greedy
1b was the old number thrown around by paranoid people when ships were pretty much free because of insurance. I'd feel very comfortable with 1.5b in cargo these days.
and I don't think I've ever heard of a completely random gank a freighter. just watch out for C&P days out, gank a freighter version.
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