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Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy
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Posted - 2011.09.24 12:39:00 -
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I, Lord Vaari, earl of Sosan VIII, archbishop of the Church of Providence, founder and despot of the Imperial Pharmacy, golden mountain, self proclaimed prophet, hero of the Providence, the world most beloved hero, carrier of the Heaven's light and many more wish to improve my and my glorious corporation relations with PIE Inc.
We have seen how we, the CVA and Imperial Pharmacy have managed to overcome our terrible misunderstandings, which have dominated our relations for years. We have both seen, how our misguided policy towards each others have only caused damage to the amarr intrests outside her borders,
I now wish to start negotiating with PIE Inc for starting from clean table with them. Even with our terrible relations and vocal hostility towards each others, Im sure we all see how we are all working for the Empire.
I ask now to the leaders of the PIE Inc; What are your demands to reset our standings, or even to rise them to positive with me and my corporation?
I also wish to know, what are you offerings in return of your demands, if you have them?
I call the spirit which we had 7 years ago, when I first met your glorious leader then, Golan Travize. He was my good friend and also defender of the Empire. |
Graelyn
Wolfsbrigade
13
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Posted - 2011.09.24 16:08:00 -
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They would probably first ask that you cut back on the Mindflood. + Cardinal Graelyn + They say God lives inside each one of us. Well then, he'd better like Enchiladas, because that's what he's going to get.
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.09.26 09:22:00 -
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Vaari wrote: Golan Travize
It's Golan Trevize - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.09.26 10:23:00 -
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Our demands have already been publicly stated.
But if you need to be told how to fix things then your sincerity is in question. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Victoria Stecker
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.09.26 22:07:00 -
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Wow, it's like a meeting of Grumpy Old Men Anonymous in here. |
Conventia Underking
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.09.26 22:26:00 -
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Glad to see that you have found a home in service to the Empress, Empire and God, Miss Stecker. For God, Empire and Empress! |
Kazzzi
Heathen Legion Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2011.09.26 23:10:00 -
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DIS--SENT! DIS--SENT! DIS--SENT!
TO HELL WITH A UNIFIED AMARR!
DIS--SENT! DIS--SENT! DIS--SENT!
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Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy
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Posted - 2011.09.27 08:01:00 -
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Fear not Kazzi, if it is up to Blake, amarrians will never unite. He just ignored my step to restore our relations and insulted me in doing so. |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
119
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Posted - 2011.09.27 09:20:00 -
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Diplomatic talks like this are supposed to go on behind closed door not publicly spread all over the IGS. If I where Rodj I would have reacted the same way, talking about your "good friend" Golan Trevize like you knew the man personally means nothing. We knew him as well and better then you ever did, I am sure.
If you truly wish for better relations you go to a man and shake his hand in private, share a drink and talk about the future. You do not proclaim your heritage or intentions in public trying to pressure somebody in a decision. Do not push and prod to force a dialogue and then be surprised you get a tap on the head.
We are all Amarrians and we all demand respect, PIE deserves more then a little measure of it. It might be best to remember that. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
15
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Posted - 2011.09.27 12:16:00 -
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Ciar Meara wrote:We are all Amarrians and we all demand respect
Yes, the Amarrian tendency to demand respect while doing nothing to earn it is well-known to all the peoples of the galaxy. No Gods. No Kings. No Senators. No Directors. No Men. Only me.
Only me. |
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Lyn Farel
Extropian Technologies
8
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Posted - 2011.09.27 13:10:00 -
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At least, even if considered politically radioactive by many, lord Vaari does not seem to live in an ideological autarky, and seems to work toward reconciliation. |
Kazzzi
Heathen Legion Ushra'Khan
14
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Posted - 2011.09.27 13:10:00 -
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Ciar Meara wrote:Diplomatic talks like this are supposed to go on behind closed door not publicly spread all over the IGS. What sort of foul shenanigans could PIE demand that need be kept private? My spies will reveal them regardless. At least public diplomacy would quell any unease the populace may still feel about the Imperial capsuleer schism.
You see, peoples of Amarr?! You can not trust your supposed immortal protectors! |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
268
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Posted - 2011.09.27 14:00:00 -
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Ciar Meara wrote:Diplomatic talks like this are supposed to go on behind closed door not publicly spread all over the IGS. If I where Rodj I would have reacted the same way, talking about your "good friend" Golan Trevize like you knew the man personally means nothing. We knew him as well and better then you ever did, I am sure.
If you truly wish for better relations you go to a man and shake his hand in private, share a drink and talk about the future. You do not proclaim your heritage or intentions in public trying to pressure somebody in a decision. Do not push and prod to force a dialogue and then be surprised you get a tap on the head.
We are all Amarrians and we all demand respect, PIE deserves more then a little measure of it. It might be best to remember that.
Indeed. The fact that Vaari decided to make this all public leads me to suspect that he's more interested in grandstanding than atonement.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
268
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Posted - 2011.09.27 14:03:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Ciar Meara wrote:We are all Amarrians and we all demand respect Yes, the Amarrian tendency to demand respect while doing nothing to earn it is well-known to all the peoples of the galaxy.
As opposed to Gallenteans who don't even demand or try to earn self-respect. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
15
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Posted - 2011.09.27 14:46:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:As opposed to Gallenteans who don't even demand or try to earn self-respect.
We built in five hundred years what it took you two thousand to accomplish. And we did it in the name of human progress, not the pseudonym of some imaginary deity. No Gods. No Kings. No Senators. No Directors. No Men. Only me.
Only me. |
Kithrus
Defensores Fidei Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.27 15:04:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Rodj Blake wrote:As opposed to Gallenteans who don't even demand or try to earn self-respect. We built in five hundred years what it took you two thousand to accomplish. And we did it in the name of human progress, not the pseudonym of some imaginary deity.
And when you pass on your still have nothing to show for it.
Back on topic though before we got rudely interrupted....
Mr. Vaari
Understand that Lord Blake has every right to set the terms to which you will make amends. As an honorable Amarrian I trust you will take them. I've had my disagreements with him in the past but I see his lordship as an elder in the faith and therefore my teacher. I'll argue with him but at the end of the day he is wise so if we did have an issue I would be inclined to yield the point regardless of how I feel.
I dream of unity for all the Amarr factions more then you know, however each one of us as Lords, Captains, Admirals and heads of our houses have a degree of honor and self respect that must be addressed.
Bearing that in mind I implore you sir to take to heart his Lordships request as he sees fit. Lord Blanke would not ask you to debase yourself to make amends I'm sure.
Kithrus Crases.
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Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy
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Posted - 2011.09.27 15:38:00 -
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Ciar Meara wrote:
We are all Amarrians and we all demand respect, PIE deserves more then a little measure of it. It might be best to remember that.
It might also be good to remember, that I am lord. Im not some field peasant who won the honor to be a independent spaceship captain. Im Lord Vaari, earl of Sosan VII, second only to the planetary governor. Im member of imperial high nobility and that alone, without any deeds should ensure almost limitless amount of respect from other amarrians. Especially from those, who claim to be loyalists.
I made very generous offer. I asked what does PIE demand from me to restore relations. In return, I was insulted by that admiral Blake. |
Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy
8
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Posted - 2011.09.27 15:46:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:[quote=Ciar Meara]
Indeed. The fact that Vaari decided to make this all public leads me to suspect that he's more interested in grandstanding than atonement.
Its Lord Vaari, as you well know. Maybe you have not noticed, but I have restored with my good and close friend Daedalus good relations between glorious Imperial Pharmacy, whose resilience inspires us all and CVA, whose guardians banish all hexers from Empires borders. To achieve this, I have made tremendous forthcoming towards CVA and that alone should have proven my will to unite amarrian factions. It seems it is not for your intrents, since my majestic presence would lessen your personal authority over our people. |
Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy
8
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Posted - 2011.09.27 15:47:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Rodj Blake wrote:As opposed to Gallenteans who don't even demand or try to earn self-respect. We built in five hundred years what it took you two thousand to accomplish. And we did it in the name of human progress, not the pseudonym of some imaginary deity.
There are plenty of proofs that God exist. |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
270
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Posted - 2011.09.27 16:03:00 -
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Vaari wrote:
I made very generous offer. I asked what does PIE demand from me to restore relations. In return, I was insulted by that admiral Blake.
No insult was intended, and if anyone took offense at my words, then I apologise.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
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Kazzzi
Heathen Legion Ushra'Khan
14
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:15:00 -
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In the Empire, even the most devout subjects are shunned for submitting themselves to public scrutiny and handing the proverbial olive branch. Your lords and masters are not interested in peace and the stability of the Empire. They care only for their own image and power. Peoples of Amarr, you will find only strife under the heels of your masters. It is time to rise up and cast aside these bitter old raisins, these holders, who rule you. |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
272
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:31:00 -
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Kazzzi wrote:In the Empire, even the most devout subjects are shunned for submitting themselves to public scrutiny and handing the proverbial olive branch. Your lords and masters are not interested in peace and the stability of the Empire. They care only for their own image and power. Peoples of Amarr, you will find only strife under the heels of your masters. It is time to rise up and cast aside these bitter old raisins, these holders, who rule you.
You're sounding increasingly desperate lately.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
121
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:49:00 -
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Vaari wrote: It might also be good to remember, that I am lord. Im not some field peasant who won the honor to be a independent spaceship captain. Im Lord Vaari, earl of Sosan VII, second only to the planetary governor. Im member of imperial high nobility and that alone, without any deeds should ensure almost limitless amount of respect from other amarrians. Especially from those, who claim to be loyalists
I am only loyal to the Empire and the Empress, may she rule forever. I owe you no fealthy and no respect except that what you have earned by your actions Vaari, if I had one isk for every capsuleer that claims to be a lord on some backwater planet or a member of the imperial family I could have bought the Khanid titan by now.
I might be an upjumped peasant or I might not be but I know one thing though, my lasers burn just as bright in the cold vacuum of space and they are fired with as much faith and fervor as yours.
- [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
15
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Posted - 2011.09.27 19:42:00 -
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Vaari wrote:There are plenty of proofs that God exist.
All of which are logical fallacies, and thus not "proofs" at all. Don't start this argument with me, Vaari. Your deity is imaginary. While the existence of a supernatural is not objectively disprovable, the existence of the Amarr god in particular most certainly is.
Myth busted. No Gods. No Kings. No Senators. No Directors. No Men. Only me.
Only me. |
Kazzzi
Heathen Legion Ushra'Khan
14
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Posted - 2011.09.27 19:52:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:You're sounding increasingly desperate lately.
I assure you I am not trying to get in your pants.
I'm just inspired by several maglev train bombings in the Empire. |
Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy
8
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Posted - 2011.09.27 20:25:00 -
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Ciar Meara wrote:Vaari wrote: It might also be good to remember, that I am lord. Im not some field peasant who won the honor to be a independent spaceship captain. Im Lord Vaari, earl of Sosan VII, second only to the planetary governor. Im member of imperial high nobility and that alone, without any deeds should ensure almost limitless amount of respect from other amarrians. Especially from those, who claim to be loyalists
I am only loyal to the Empire and the Empress, may she rule forever. I owe you no fealthy and no respect except that what you have earned by your actions Vaari, if I had one isk for every capsuleer that claims to be a lord on some backwater planet or a member of the imperial family I could have bought the Khanid titan by now. I might be an upjumped peasant or I might not be but I know one thing though, my lasers burn just as bright in the cold vacuum of space and they are fired with as much faith and fervor as yours.
Loyalty to the Empire means you also follow it laws and traditions. We are feudal society, and while you have not sworn fealthy to me, im still your superior on every important aspect of life you can imagine.
Claiming to be member of one of the royal family is very serious crime if it is not true. Penalty would be death, I imagine. I have never seen one who would dare to claim such thing and it would be a lie.
I noticed you used word "imperial family" what is this family, for I have never heard from such family? I take you mean House Emperor, but you have already prooven to be such ignorant peasant, that you would imagine that to be House Sarum.
If you are planning to continue lecturing to me about Empire and how you respect it, atleast try to remember the basics:
There are six royal house in the Empire. These are House Sarum, House Ardishapur, House Kador, House Tash-Murkon, House Kor-Azor and House Emperor. Emperor or empress is not member of any previous house, but after coronation he or she forms the House Emperor |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
122
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Posted - 2011.09.28 08:22:00 -
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Vaari wrote: I noticed you used word "imperial family" what is this family, for I have never heard from such family? I take you mean House Emperor, but you have already prooven to be such ignorant peasant, that you would imagine that to be House Sarum.
My dear lord Vaari, I was talking in broad, general terms of the ones that claim to be descendants or relatives of any Emperor, Imperial line, Royal family, Mighty lord or Hero of the Empire, etc. These self styled lords often feel the need to claim their authority and general superiority based on some unsubstantiated birthright, not unlike you lord Vaari...
Why I think I'd be able to afford the Khanid titan based on your boast alone! - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Thgil Goldcore
PIE Inc.
118
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Posted - 2011.09.28 08:39:00 -
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We are Amarr, have you forgotten that and decided to become petty? This behavior is below us and is un-necessarily and un-wanted.
Clearly this issue has derailed a while ago. I'm fairly sure tossing accusations where never part of this topic though. Also its giving people like Kazzzi a place to slander our empire.
I must admit I am not fully informed on all the issues and why relations with Lord Vaari are poor, but it is not my place to question.
I pray that we can resolve any problems properly and with the dictum our heritage deserves.
Thgil Goldcore Arch Lieutenant |
Jon Engel
Intaki Security and Intelligence Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
0
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Posted - 2011.09.30 04:58:00 -
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Not a single **** was given on that day.
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Ascentior
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.09.30 15:09:00 -
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Vaari wrote: It might also be good to remember, that I am lord. Im not some field peasant who won the honor to be a independent spaceship captain. Im Lord Vaari, earl of Sosan VII, second only to the planetary governor. Im member of imperial high nobility and that alone, without any deeds should ensure almost limitless amount of respect from other amarrians. Especially from those, who claim to be loyalists.
I made very generous offer. I asked what does PIE demand from me to restore relations. In return, I was insulted by that admiral Blake.
Lord Vaari,
I am loyal to God, the Empire, my Corp and my brethren. In that order.
I am sure you command much respect from those under your earlship of Sosan VII. You may also have the respect of your subjects. I am neither.
I fight for God and the Empire. I protect our people. While I have no opinion on you or your behaviour, I also have no fealty to you. I am not a member of any particular house. To demand 'almost limitless amount of respect' from anyone but your loyal subjects seems a little crazy, Lord.
That being said, I will respect you as a subject of God. If you continue to serve Him, you will always be respected as that. No respect given from anyone in the cluster is more important. |
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