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Fiye Tao
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Posted - 2010.10.07 20:48:00 -
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Agree with Mechtech.
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El Liptonez
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Posted - 2010.10.07 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Rich : "I can afford just about any reasonable thing I need whenever I need it, I can stop working for a while" -> second most common ; NAV usually above 10 bil, roughly half of it (if not more) in wallet, neither fluctuates too much
I'll go with this pretty much, just the NAV thing is too high, imo. Unless you solo/small gang PVP in T2 ships, 5b NAV should be the point of where you can afford anything you want. Once your wallet is low, you make some ISK (even if it's only ratting), to push it back up - or you have an alt that buys stuff with orders being updated once a day, sort of like a low end moon income.
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AppleBanana
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Posted - 2010.10.07 22:25:00 -
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It depends on how much isk people have in the corp i am in. If i have alot more than most others in the corp then i feel rich.
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2010.10.07 23:15:00 -
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Depends who you ask.. for the guys scaping to keep in decently fit bc's bs's and a hac or two a month ... maybe needing to sell a plex for isk to play they way they'd like to, a couple billion in their wallet would make them feel wealthy.
For a pvper with also a strong industrialist bent.. thinking of the game more in terms of posses and minning territory , and cap ships ... he might feel comfortable owning a couple carriers and making monthly progress to a super... but wouldnt' feel wealthy unless he had enough for two supers?
For a person who plays the game in a large part to compete to make isk as an end in itself? IDK....but when you've got enough isk to easily build an outpost if you cared to, and found the cost of an additional plex monthly for another account a rounding error.. I'd say you'd be rich in the eyes of fellow rich traders.
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Thrasymachus TheSophist
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Posted - 2010.10.07 23:38:00 -
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I find trading so horribly boring and such a clickfest that I only do it when my cash on hand goes down to around 300 mill. I'll trade for a week or 2, get it back up to a bill, and then go back to doing things I enjoy, or if my prospects are thin, missions.
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Vilgan Mazran
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2010.10.08 01:09:00 -
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I consider rich to be "I could never spend a single second of effort towards making more isk, and I will not want for isk for the rest of my eve career". How much isk this actually is will obviously vary from person to person ;P
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T'arho
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Posted - 2010.10.08 02:04:00 -
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rich bastards.....
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Irae Ragwan
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Posted - 2010.10.08 02:46:00 -
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I have managed to hover in the NAV 20bil range for a while now on an industrial backbone with a little mission running support and a relatively inexpensive pvp habit (generally soloing or small gang with t2 hurricane) and drag out a carrier with my alt now and then (I'd be a lot poor'er if I had reason to do this more often). Then again, if I had to go back to sqare one i'd be much worse off. The bulk of my now invested isk was made farming anoms a while back.
I'd say that i'm relatively rich, especially as lowsec pvp types go. Most of my fellow lowsec pirating types have low to no patience for managing pve-alts for supplimental income and hover in the <2bil bracket for most of their careers. I just don't think that I could manage with such a lifestyle personally. I am just not happy without a very substantial cushion for unexpected losses or those months when I just want to pew without bothering with the pve alt.
A word of advice to the novice looking to get rich: diversify your income sources and do what you like and can keep pace with. The best way to fail and/or burn out is to get extremely embedded in one industry or aspect of eve. Some are more prone to this than others just as some industries are much easier to keep up with (ie. my industrialst only requires my supervision a few times a week to generate isk, whereas my mission runner ovbiously needs to be tended to any time I want to make isk from it).
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Companion Qube
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Posted - 2010.10.08 04:18:00 -
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If the wallet goes up every month and I can buy anything I want and I can run my 5 accounts on plex then I'm doing alright.
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MaVla
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.08 11:27:00 -
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I think becoming rich isn't all it's cracked up to be tbh.
I concidered myself wealthy for a while and generally wealth snowballs as you make more and more isk. I now have 200b liquid isk, a personal titan on my alt and around 500b in tech 2 bpos.
Am I happy?? Not at all, the game is no longer fun as I have nothing left worth doing.
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Marshiro
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Posted - 2010.10.08 16:24:00 -
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*throws in the mandatory CAN I HAVE YOUR STUFF post*
How much is wealthy is very much a framing problem...that said, it is kind of strange to me to say there are no goals after you have a lot of money, given this is a sandbox and there is unlimited space for the formation of organization and the destruction of one's opponents.....
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JASON W0RTHING
Guy Fawkes Trust Fund 31ST Reliables Division
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Posted - 2010.10.08 16:41:00 -
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Edited by: JASON W0RTHING on 08/10/2010 16:44:00
Originally by: MaVla I think becoming rich isn't all it's cracked up to be tbh.
I concidered myself wealthy for a while and generally wealth snowballs as you make more and more isk. I now have 200b liquid isk, a personal titan on my alt and around 500b in tech 2 bpos.
Am I happy?? Not at all, the game is no longer fun as I have nothing left worth doing.
I'm willing to be charitable and help restore your love of EVE. Simply transfer all your isk to this account, contract me your tech II bpos, and I'm sure we can arrange something with Chribba for the titan transfer. Once this is complete, you will once again be free to dive into the sandbox you had long forgot.
Edit: contract everything to jason w0rthing not jason worthing, ty.
Originally by: CCP Shadow What is thy bidd -- Wait. This thread, I have an irresistible urge to lock it for "being related to neither crime nor punishment."
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mental maverick
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.10.08 16:52:00 -
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Its definatly very personal as other ppl in the thread have said. For me a lot of isk doesnt really diminish the fun in making more. I just try new stuff. Started out on the market, then went into manufacturing, moved to expansion speculation with tyrannis and the PI stuff and now im back where i made my first bil: on the market dabling a bit.
Biggest difference is the more isk i get the lazier i get. So when I cba to check some graphs once in a while or updating an order from time to time i guess ill be well and truly rich in my own eyes
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Kyra Vire
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Posted - 2010.10.08 17:05:00 -
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When you look at something you want, and you think to yourself hmm I better get 3 just in case.
IE: Hey I wonder what supercarriers look like when they blow up.
Buy 3 perfect skilled chars, the ships, the best mods, then blow one up to see the effects.
Then take the other 2 and gate camp in low sec, while smoking a pipe.
when you start doing this on a whim for nothing other then a few hours of amusement, you are wealthy.
Otherwise, you're just like the rest of us.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.10.08 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Kyra Vire When you look at something you want, and you think to yourself hmm I better get 3 just in case.
IE: Hey I wonder what supercarriers look like when they blow up.
Buy 3 perfect skilled chars, the ships, the best mods, then blow one up to see the effects.
Then take the other 2 and gate camp in low sec, while smoking a pipe.
when you start doing this on a whim for nothing other then a few hours of amusement, you are wealthy.
Otherwise, you're just like the rest of us.
I got to that point in 3 other MMOs.
After about a week I got bored and quit them.
The fun was in the trip to get there. - Auditing & consulting
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Kyra Vire
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Posted - 2010.10.08 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Originally by: Kyra Vire When you look at something you want, and you think to yourself hmm I better get 3 just in case.
IE: Hey I wonder what supercarriers look like when they blow up.
Buy 3 perfect skilled chars, the ships, the best mods, then blow one up to see the effects.
Then take the other 2 and gate camp in low sec, while smoking a pipe.
when you start doing this on a whim for nothing other then a few hours of amusement, you are wealthy.
Otherwise, you're just like the rest of us.
I got to that point in 3 other MMOs.
After about a week I got bored and quit them.
The fun was in the trip to get there.
truth.
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odama jasonsson
Caldari Reverberation Inc
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Posted - 2010.10.08 20:57:00 -
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Tbh i feel rich when i can solo pvp in a bs once or twice a week, lose them and just say "ah well lets buy a few new ones and try again when I turn my market orders" whitout having to mission grind them up.
Tbh the "feel rich" just rly depends on the scope you work with, if you like to pvp in cruisers 1bil is a lot, when you pvp in caps 10 bil is getting there. When you got corpies having 20 bil and some t2 bpo's (gosh i hate those lol) then 100 isnt gona cut it. All comes down to habit, needs, examples and what one considers giving prestigue and fun
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Vilgan Mazran
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2010.10.08 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: MaVla I think becoming rich isn't all it's cracked up to be tbh.
I concidered myself wealthy for a while and generally wealth snowballs as you make more and more isk. I now have 200b liquid isk, a personal titan on my alt and around 500b in tech 2 bpos.
Am I happy?? Not at all, the game is no longer fun as I have nothing left worth doing.
Meh, its a personal problem then imo. I've had a lot more fun in this game since isk no longer became an issue. Eve has sooooooo many more avenues to explore than just aiming for a ton of isk imo.
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MaVla
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.08 23:35:00 -
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Agreed, i'm going for a change in direction see if I can spice things up again
MaVla
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Zelot Blueice
XTC Cartel
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Posted - 2010.10.09 01:07:00 -
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Edited by: Zelot Blueice on 09/10/2010 01:09:12 Well MaVla, I am fairly poor and have been more poor now then never before. Some bad marketing moves. I wouldnt mind having just a billion ISK. Hell, I'd even be set with 500mill tbh. I am one of those players that continuoisly logs on hoping to see an utu setup in a private contract for free. Ah, the hope and bliss of ignorance.
Edit: I've resorted to ninja looting in Jita
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Marshiro
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Posted - 2010.10.09 03:00:00 -
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500m? Just spend 15hr grinding it up.... it probably takes longer to get 500m off one off events.
Or just join the arty pests shooting tengus in motsu...
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Xylorn Hasher
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Posted - 2010.10.28 08:56:00 -
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The fastest way to make some serious ISK is WH space. Take some friends with you, POS fuel and some equipment and move to C5 or C6. You will need 3 logistics with pilots to fly it.
Some statistics:
Single Ladar in C5, C6: 100-600m ISK in gas to harvest; Anomally magnetos of all kind C5, C6: 300 - 1.2 B ISK in sleepers loot salvage, datacores.
So.. anyone of your corp will be able to earn 300-500m per week easly with about 2-3 hours of gringing per day.
So again Does 5B make someone rich?... Hell no. Most of Eve players are too noob or lazy to make some serious ISK and they just follow the crowd than think for themselvs and make something diffrent.
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Inbrainsane
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Posted - 2010.10.28 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Xylorn Hasher The fastest way to make some serious ISK is WH space.
The fastest way to make serious isk is not play eve. Some statistics:
A job that is not paid very well, but is easy to do. 8$/hour.
So you will be able to earn 70$ per week easily while working less than 2 hours a day for 5 days. That is two gametimecards and equals 700m ISK at current rates.
So if you play just to earn isk, and if playing feels like "hard work to be able to buy that supercarrier hull" then your best decision would be: Reduce playing, get a job, spend some $$$ on GTC and use your actual play time to fly around in your shiny supercarrier!
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WMunny
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Posted - 2010.10.28 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: Inbrainsane The fastest way to make serious isk is not play eve. Some statistics:
A job that is not paid very well, but is easy to do. 8$/hour.
So you will be able to earn 70$ per week easily while working less than 2 hours a day for 5 days. That is two gametimecards and equals 700m ISK at current rates.
This is exactly what I was saying on the thread New Eden = Zimbabwe but was shot down in flames.
Really, what is the point in spending countless hours mining and missioning to earn enough ISK for your next PvP, when in fact it's much quicker and much more productive to use real life cash to achieve the same thing? Playing the game to earn enough ISK to play the game for free is such a waste of a life. Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.10.28 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: WMunny Playing the game to earn enough ISK to play the game for free is such a waste of a life.
Not if you value the time spent online.
Maybe being able to spend 20 hours online outweights the 15 hours online and 5 hours real job to buy a timecard.
While I could earn more working IRL, in the end of the month when I pay with my PLEX - I feel good because I am not "wasting" real money on pixels - regardless if I could have made more real money or not.
While it may be a waste of life to you, it most certainly is not for me. But then I don't have any life to waste in the first place so for all I know my post might just be a troll...
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Ash Donai
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Posted - 2010.10.28 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: Edge Horseman This has had me thinking a while now, at what point does an Eve player become wealthy?
Simple, you can afford your losses and to pay for your game time with ISK on all of your accounts. |
Hyveres
Caldari Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.28 09:57:00 -
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from my 0.0 pov its as simple as this, rich players are players that can afford to loose & replace their own supers more than once.
"Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot." - Vulcan Raven, The Last Days Of Foxhound |
WMunny
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Posted - 2010.10.28 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba Maybe being able to spend 20 hours online outweights the 15 hours online and 5 hours real job to buy a timecard.
...at which point you can then play the game for another 20 hours?
I can understand if you are unemployed or don't have a lot of spare cash. Saving the monthly subscription fees by selling your ISK is not a bad idea. But if you have to work 20 hours to earn the ISK, for god's sake, get a job, work overtime/work in McDonald's! 20 hours @ ú6 an hour is ú120 - enough for 6 months subscription! Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.10.28 10:22:00 -
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Originally by: WMunny
Originally by: Chribba Maybe being able to spend 20 hours online outweights the 15 hours online and 5 hours real job to buy a timecard.
...at which point you can then play the game for another 20 hours?
Umm no? Because if I can ONLY play EVE for 20 hours in total over a month that 20>15+5 - hence why it outweights.
And even if there was unlimited online time per month (up to the 24/365) the X will always be > than Y+Z - hence why I suggest that for some the pure online time might be worth more to them than the lesser online time + real job time when it comes to the payment of said online time.
That applies to those who value online time over ISK, surely if you're only after the pure ISK - getting a job would be better and do the whole PLEX for ISK thing. But if ISK is not the end goal...
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Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2010.10.28 10:29:00 -
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A Chribba Eve-O that actually talks? Has the sky fallen down? Did he sell off his account? |
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