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Estel Arador
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Posted - 2010.10.10 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: Terra Mikael I've been playing eve pretty much for 3 years or so
Pretty sure that means you don't qualify as a bitter vet.
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HarrietMiers
Helljumpers Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.10.10 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Umega Patience.
What we have is current/ex WoW players jumping into EVE. Easily spotted by their lack of patiences and need for immediate reward and gratification not brought about by their own actions, but by someone else.. namely CCP giving it to them for nothing other than they exist, they feel entitled. This will not simply disappear, but grow with the growing player base that EVE has had since its inception. And 'explode' to some extent with Incarna, and perhaps Dust.
Some 'piled empty' content is simply building blocks, a foundation towards a more indepth feature. Wormholes for example.. it has been stated that CCP has had the lore and backdrop for EVE for a long time now.. and Incursion is going to build off what Apocrypha started. Much in the same way Tyrannis is a building block to more.
Think PI is a finished product? Come on. Got to have it all right now? Then don't ***** if they have to charge 20-30 USD for each expansion to make that happen. Otherwise it is free.. CCP is still small by gaming industry standards, and providing increased depth to their game rhythmicly without extra purchasing/charging fees. And whats funny about this tho, is some people are already starting to ***** at the notion of CCP making the next step into a larger business.. yet they want more more more from them without them becoming a big company.
Think no game has balance, nerf, buff issues? EVE is the only one? Really? Get over it. No game is perfect, no game will ever be perfect. No player base in any game will be 100% satisfied. And even if EVE's 300k+ subs are say, 50k individual people with multi-accounts.. the amount of people (with alts) posting on the forums vs 50k is a very, very, very small margin to go basing the overall view of a game. The fact it has that many subs.. that continues to go up instead of down over a 7 year span should provide a more realistic answer than what maybe 10 people on the forums wish to dictate and tell you.
Don't like the game.. quit. Like the game.. play it. Shame the forums aren't as much of a knowledge source as they should be.. and more so a way for insecure personalities to feel a sense of worth by unleashing their inner selves onto others. Alert CCP to problems and issues.. cool, thats a good thing. There is actually better ways to do that doesn't involve spamming GD/ships/warfare topics and so on with the equivalant of raging, repeating Hate Mail. Chances are.. using the forums in that manner just gets other counter-points raised that bury the original thread thought anyway.
Impatiences usually results in failure. Shame too many *****es running around that can't own up to it, learn from it, grow and move on to enjoy what is already in front of them.
The Cartman syndrome.. Now now now.
LOL which dev are you?
Patience? Crippling lag for over a year. Serious imbalance problems, broken sov (remember treaties?), unstoppable super capital blobs (goes to balancing issues), stagnant broken boring game.
What are you playing?
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Grimpak
Gallente The Whitehound Corporation The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2010.10.10 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers LOL which dev are you?
Patience? Crippling lag for over a year. Serious imbalance problems, broken sov (remember treaties?), unstoppable super capital blobs (goes to balancing issues), stagnant broken boring game.
What are you playing?
and before that it was titans online.
and before that it was even more crippling lag online.
and before that it was deathstar POS online. ---
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HarrietMiers
Helljumpers Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.10.10 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: HarrietMiers LOL which dev are you?
Patience? Crippling lag for over a year. Serious imbalance problems, broken sov (remember treaties?), unstoppable super capital blobs (goes to balancing issues), stagnant broken boring game.
What are you playing?
and before that it was titans online.
and before that it was even more crippling lag online.
and before that it was deathstar POS online.
Those were better than what we have now.
Bring back remote DD's and the tower grind a thousand times before cluster**** that is now.
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Umega
Solis Mensa
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Posted - 2010.10.10 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers
LOL which dev are you?
Patience? Crippling lag for over a year. Serious imbalance problems, broken sov (remember treaties?), unstoppable super capital blobs (goes to balancing issues), stagnant broken boring game.
What are you playing?
Yes, Dominion introduced a lag-monster in code.. coupled by the increased amount of players brought into null by renting space to compensate sov fees. I, personally, am patient enough to wait for a fix.. and I also see and believe that CCP is trying really hard to fix it. If you want to argue that point.. knock yourself out.
There are quite a bit of other things I can do while I am waiting for certain areas to get fixed, because of the other things 'piled on' during the years. Wouldn't be much of a sandbox, sci-fi sim if all it had were large fleet fights.. now would it?
So if is it a 'stagnant broken boring game' for you.. why are you here? Are you masochist that sits in front of your monitor, enjoying playing such a game.. or is it trolling and flaming people in hopes they fire back and abuse you in some form? You seem to have quite a history of that. You seem to want to promote chaos and disorder, no creation. That just make you a virus then.. something a doctor should cut off. A simple, one minded organism that needs to be purged and removed.
Now rub your nips and tell me just how wrong I am.
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Bud Johnson
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.10.10 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers
Those were better than what we have now.
Bring back remote DD's and the tower grind a thousand times before cluster**** that is now.
Sure is mad in here.
How about instead of ****ting these forums up with how bad a game EVE is you go play a better one? Why do so many people keep playing when it stops being fun for them? **** is mind boggling.
Also i hope the bit about remote DD's and the tower grind was a troll (actually i hope it was all a troll).
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oil
Double-L
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Posted - 2010.10.10 23:00:00 -
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to me the negative issues keep adding up. to me those issues are not minor
lag rampant botting and rmt supercapitals in space putting man hours in something like incarna while there is so much to fix promotion of treason with their new trailer starting of microtransactions.
just the issues foremost in my mind.
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HarrietMiers
Helljumpers Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.10.10 23:01:00 -
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Edited by: HarrietMiers on 10/10/2010 23:03:46
Originally by: Umega Now rub your nips and tell me just how wrong I am.
::rubs nips:: Originally by: Umega coupled by the increased amount of players brought into null by renting space to compensate sov fees.
No. Same amount of renters, just no implementation of a treaty system that they promised. An article that covers the problem nicely.
Originally by: Umega I, personally, am patient enough to wait for a fix
Lag was fixed. They broke it again. Originally by: Umega I also see and believe that CCP is trying really hard to fix it
18 months. I don't. Originally by: Umega So if is it a 'stagnant broken boring game' for you.. why are you here?
I have more than enough isk to play for free. Anyone who is still paying is a chump. Originally by: Umega or is it trolling and flaming people in hopes they fire back and abuse you in some form?
I've called out two people on these forums, two famous and well known alt/troll accounts - and I called them out for being just that.No offense bro, but shooting from the hip will only get you so far and this game is almost completely borked atm.
Edit - seven years and I still can't quote properly. Such a Nub.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.10.10 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers I have more than enough isk to play for free. Anyone who is still paying is a chump.
You really don't want people to stop paying, do you? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2010.10.10 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: Nareg Maxence
- I'd like some kind of instanced areas that you can explore and actually live in for a while, with stuff to find and shoot and loot. Not closed off areas obviously, open to everyone, if they can find it. Eventually you will dry out the resources and leave, closing the instance or you will be driven out by someone wanting to take over.
Wormholes ?
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heheheh
Phoenix Club
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Posted - 2010.10.10 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Umega Patience.
What we have is current/ex WoW players jumping into EVE. Easily spotted by their lack of patiences and need for immediate reward and gratification not brought about by their own actions, but by someone else.. namely CCP giving it to them for nothing other than they exist, they feel entitled. This will not simply disappear, but grow with the growing player base that EVE has had since its inception. And 'explode' to some extent with Incarna, and perhaps Dust.
Some 'piled empty' content is simply building blocks, a foundation towards a more indepth feature. Wormholes for example.. it has been stated that CCP has had the lore and backdrop for EVE for a long time now.. and Incursion is going to build off what Apocrypha started. Much in the same way Tyrannis is a building block to more.
Think PI is a finished product? Come on. Got to have it all right now? Then don't ***** if they have to charge 20-30 USD for each expansion to make that happen. Otherwise it is free.. CCP is still small by gaming industry standards, and providing increased depth to their game rhythmicly without extra purchasing/charging fees. And whats funny about this tho, is some people are already starting to ***** at the notion of CCP making the next step into a larger business.. yet they want more more more from them without them becoming a big company.
Think no game has balance, nerf, buff issues? EVE is the only one? Really? Get over it. No game is perfect, no game will ever be perfect. No player base in any game will be 100% satisfied. And even if EVE's 300k+ subs are say, 50k individual people with multi-accounts.. the amount of people (with alts) posting on the forums vs 50k is a very, very, very small margin to go basing the overall view of a game. The fact it has that many subs.. that continues to go up instead of down over a 7 year span should provide a more realistic answer than what maybe 10 people on the forums wish to dictate and tell you.
Don't like the game.. quit. Like the game.. play it. Shame the forums aren't as much of a knowledge source as they should be.. and more so a way for insecure personalities to feel a sense of worth by unleashing their inner selves onto others. Alert CCP to problems and issues.. cool, thats a good thing. There is actually better ways to do that doesn't involve spamming GD/ships/warfare topics and so on with the equivalant of raging, repeating Hate Mail. Chances are.. using the forums in that manner just gets other counter-points raised that bury the original thread thought anyway.
Impatiences usually results in failure. Shame too many *****es running around that can't own up to it, learn from it, grow and move on to enjoy what is already in front of them.
The Cartman syndrome.. Now now now.
+1, good post.
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HarrietMiers
Helljumpers Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.10.10 23:17:00 -
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Edited by: HarrietMiers on 10/10/2010 23:18:16
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: HarrietMiers I have more than enough isk to play for free. Anyone who is still paying is a chump.
You really don't want people to stop paying, do you?
People pay for eve after there first few months?
Really?
To each his own I guess.
Originally by: heheheh
Originally by: Umega Patience.
What we have is current/ex WoW players jumping into EVE. Easily spotted by their lack of patiences and need for immediate reward and gratification not brought about by their own actions, but by someone else.. namely CCP giving it to them for nothing other than they exist, they feel entitled. This will not simply disappear, but grow with the growing player base that EVE has had since its inception. And 'explode' to some extent with Incarna, and perhaps Dust.
Some 'piled empty' content is simply building blocks, a foundation towards a more indepth feature. Wormholes for example.. it has been stated that CCP has had the lore and backdrop for EVE for a long time now.. and Incursion is going to build off what Apocrypha started. Much in the same way Tyrannis is a building block to more.
Think PI is a finished product? Come on. Got to have it all right now? Then don't ***** if they have to charge 20-30 USD for each expansion to make that happen. Otherwise it is free.. CCP is still small by gaming industry standards, and providing increased depth to their game rhythmicly without extra purchasing/charging fees. And whats funny about this tho, is some people are already starting to ***** at the notion of CCP making the next step into a larger business.. yet they want more more more from them without them becoming a big company.
Think no game has balance, nerf, buff issues? EVE is the only one? Really? Get over it. No game is perfect, no game will ever be perfect. No player base in any game will be 100% satisfied. And even if EVE's 300k+ subs are say, 50k individual people with multi-accounts.. the amount of people (with alts) posting on the forums vs 50k is a very, very, very small margin to go basing the overall view of a game. The fact it has that many subs.. that continues to go up instead of down over a 7 year span should provide a more realistic answer than what maybe 10 people on the forums wish to dictate and tell you.
Don't like the game.. quit. Like the game.. play it. Shame the forums aren't as much of a knowledge source as they should be.. and more so a way for insecure personalities to feel a sense of worth by unleashing their inner selves onto others. Alert CCP to problems and issues.. cool, thats a good thing. There is actually better ways to do that doesn't involve spamming GD/ships/warfare topics and so on with the equivalant of raging, repeating Hate Mail. Chances are.. using the forums in that manner just gets other counter-points raised that bury the original thread thought anyway.
Impatiences usually results in failure. Shame too many *****es running around that can't own up to it, learn from it, grow and move on to enjoy what is already in front of them.
The Cartman syndrome.. Now now now.
+1, good post.
Except for the part where he is completely wrong.
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Voith
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Posted - 2010.10.10 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1 Did CCP give out a free 5 days to all of the old bitter vets or something?
The real bitter vets have enough isk to PLEX until Eve shuts down. And enough Level5 skills ready to train that for most of us it is once a month thing.
Log on, change skill. Confirm game has gotten worse. Check if CCP cares yet. Be MIA for 30 days.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.10.10 23:52:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 10/10/2010 23:53:45
Originally by: Pesky LaRue Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 10/10/2010 18:03:56
Originally by: Professor Tarantula Where normal people would see an increase in disgruntled customers, some just see in increase in 'trolls'.
Disgruntled customers unsubscribe, trolls come to the forums spreading their piss and vinegar
Disgruntled customers make threads before they quit all the time here. Even more make one thread about something that bothers them but continue playing.
A troll would be someone who doesn't actually believe what they're saying, and is just saying it to cause trouble. However, many people love to dismiss anything they don't personally agree with as a troll.
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xavier69
Gallente Stark Enterprises LLC
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Posted - 2010.10.11 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: xavier69 on 11/10/2010 00:11:13
7 Years and countless changes
It dose seem for the past 2 years they have lost there way and center it seems they are taking eve towards more conventional MMO in an attempt to cash in and garner more players
However player retention is at an all time low for them I am sure, PI being so time based should have been setup per planet then one click per 24 hours per planet not 20 clicks per planet
Its kind of like the old saying All other units of the military are support units to the Army
All the things in eve are support to PVP they just seem to be over doing the support mini games WAY too much and not focusing on the main theme of eve
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Leekana
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Posted - 2010.10.11 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Liz Viscious It's good enough to keep my subscribed until Diablo III (or beta) come my way.
Can't ask for much more than that.
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Mashie Saldana
Minmatar Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.11 00:12:00 -
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EVE still dying?
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Nea Star
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Posted - 2010.10.11 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: xavier69 Edited by: xavier69 on 11/10/2010 00:11:13
PI being so time based should have been setup per planet then one click per 24 hours per planet not 20 clicks per planet
Yeah, in case you haven't noticed, they announced to fix the PI in Incursions..
And the ppl who say eve is boring obviously have no imagination
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Reiisha
Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.11 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers Edited by: HarrietMiers on 10/10/2010 23:18:16
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: HarrietMiers I have more than enough isk to play for free. Anyone who is still paying is a chump.
You really don't want people to stop paying, do you?
People pay for eve after there first few months?
Paying for EVE with ingame Plex has only been around for what, 2 or 3 years? Can't remember when exactly that came in. You mentioned before that you were a 2003 player, but even without going ingame to check it i highly doubt that. If so, post with your main, miss Vherokior.
Also, someone always pays for EVE. Where do you think those plex are coming from? Thin air? Loot drops?
That said, if you don't like the game as it is now, don't play it. If the people who buy plexes stop playing, they will drop in price, making the people who buy plexes to sell them ingame stop buying them - You quitting will still make a (small) financial impact.
Also, masochism.
It's quite annoying to keep hearing people complain year in year out. Usually it's always the same people. If you don't like the game, just quit... It's not hard. If the number of subscribers goes down enough CCP will still take notice of it.
"If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
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HarrietMiers
Helljumpers Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.10.11 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: Reiisha Also, someone always pays for EVE. Where do you think those plex are coming from? Thin air? Loot drops?
Read my quote. People still pay for eve? Had nothing to do with it back in 03. Contact me in game, I'd be happy to give you the name of my main from back then.
Originally by: Reiisha That said, if you don't like the game as it is now, don't play it.
If you don't like my posts (calmly and logically pointing out why eve has gone down hill recently) don't read them. Don't respond to them. What are you a masochist?
Originally by: Reiisha It's quite annoying to keep hearing people complain year in year out.
And your solution is to QQ right back at them? Evol has lowered their recruiting standards I see.
For the record, I've only recently found the game downright unplayable - the first 6 years were glorious (off and on.)
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Orange Lagomorph
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Posted - 2010.10.11 02:16:00 -
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Edited by: Orange Lagomorph on 11/10/2010 02:18:27 Confirming that someone has been paying approximately $15 per month for each and every individual EVE Online account since 2003.
Guess I should edit this to add: "Each and every ACTIVE account," since God knows people will think that slipped my mind somehow if I don't state it explicitly.
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2010.10.11 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones Edited by: Cipher Jones on 10/10/2010 16:00:46
Quote: It is already there. Eve went to **** the minute they allowed multiple characters/accounts per person.
Every single game in existence does this and always has. Grow up.
Here's the thing, Cipher. EVE is supposed to be different than all the other games. This is the only aspect of the base game I have never liked. Well, that and insurance.
There has been new content over the years I haven't liked. I wasn't a big fan of Faction Warfare or PI. So I simply don't do them. Plenty of other stuff to keep me busy in New Eden. There are also things added that I really like. W-space for instance.
After four years, I have no plans to stop playing. Although this last patch was a head scratcher for me as I couldn't even log into the game for a week until I dredged through EVE search for the solution. (luv you Chribba <3)
Mr Epeen
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VC General
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Posted - 2010.10.11 02:26:00 -
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Eve is a sandbox. It's not much more than what it's players make of it. If so many of you feel these things make the game so boring, melt those caps, build yourself some cruisers, and go FFA in NPC and low-sec space. Best part is you can sell the extra minerals for GTC's to the suckers still permalogging in their supercaps trying to win Eve.
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2010.10.11 02:43:00 -
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Originally by: Orange Lagomorph Edited by: Orange Lagomorph on 11/10/2010 02:18:27 Confirming that someone has been paying approximately $15 per month for each and every individual EVE Online account since 2003.
your char may be from 2003 but you most certainly are not.
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Orange Lagomorph
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Posted - 2010.10.11 02:55:00 -
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Confirming that money has been paid for each and every EVE Online subscription since 2003.
Confirming that nitpicking is completely irrelevant.
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Discrodia
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.10.11 03:19:00 -
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I won't say that EVE is dying, but I will say that there has been a dramatic decline of interest by me and some of my 'hardcore' friends due to the general failings of some of these patches and failure to make new content exciting enough.
At this point all that I use EVE for is lulz and spinning shiny faction ships, as most of the gameplay changes from dominion onward have been either boring or rubbish.
I won't give up hope though. EVE has maintained itself as one of the most potentially fun games I've ever played, and I hope it won't change soon. Maybe if we're lucky Dust, Incarna, and Incursion will all pan out as planned and EVE will have far fewer of these whiners.
And honestly, if you anticipate everything CCP makes to be fail, you will view it as such regardless of how good it eventually is.
Originally by: anonymous WE JUST DID SCIENCE!
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Taser Monkey
Against All Asteroids
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Posted - 2010.10.11 04:53:00 -
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Forums bad now? Where were you when the T20 affair broke? Threadtitans got so large CCP couldn't delete them fast enough and some were hundreds of pages long. The biggest whiners are the ones who have the least to say for themselves.
This game supposed to be different? Glad to know this game isn't being developed by humans but by electric sheep.
Play the game for free? Plex and GTC come from where again?
What this game has no shortage of is newcomers who are pro's at whining and whine for the sake of whining.
The game does have problems, the game does have imbalances (cloaks for one, blasters another) and things that need fixing. CCP said they're working on Incarna for a while and don't care about the game and that's the problem. The devs aren't bad, the management is horrible. However, the game's been dying since pre-beta, so, nobody cares.
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HarrietMiers
Helljumpers Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.10.11 05:22:00 -
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Edited by: HarrietMiers on 11/10/2010 05:24:05 Sure bro, evn is doing just great!
Screw all the haters yeah!
Edited for some more supportive smilies:
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Eben Rochelle
Gallente RPS holdings
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Posted - 2010.10.11 09:40:00 -
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Originally by: Zagdul
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: mechtech We really need another expansion on the same quality level of Apocrypha
Nah.
What we need is a non-expansion that does to game functionality what Apocrypha did to content. CCP have claimed that Apoc added more content than just about any patch before it, but it did so at a vast cost in left-behind fixes and bugs. What we need is an anti-Apocrypha: a patch that fixes unimaginable amounts of bugs and gameplay flaws, no matter how much content will have to be left by the wayside in doing so.
And a pony for everyone.
This!
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Grimpak
Gallente The Whitehound Corporation The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2010.10.11 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers Edited by: HarrietMiers on 11/10/2010 05:30:09 Sure bro, eve is doing just great!
Screw all the haters yeah!
hells yeah! eve is doing as great as a 1 legged horse in a race!
but you see me complaining? no. I prefer to troll the whiners, because after the first thread about an issue all the other ones are just whiners asking for a good trollin'. ---
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