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Saint Evonivon
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Posted - 2010.10.19 16:39:00 -
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I know people will either like the idea, and others will hate it but CCP please Let us get a one time character rename when we get to remake our avatars.
EVE is not like other mmo's where you can just spend a few months grinding up a new character if you want to redo it. You are stuck forever with the name, Even the character bazaar will never give you a name you really want. So I propose a one time character rename of one toon per account in a 30 day window of the lauch. I know many out there including myself have a toon that really needs a name we enjoy.
I know many could see this being exploited and a way for people to hide their identity from bad deeds but your sec status/kill history/employment history/contacts will stay the same. Besides if you really want to hide who you are the character bazaar already lets you do that. So name changing to me would not hurt a thing. This will only be a one time deal to, this will not be an on going thing. To me CCP hold on to too many old and game joking policies and game mechanics, such as the learning system and the learning skills which is another hot topic thread which there are many of. Please CCP at least think about it.
Another idea to make it so people know what your first name is, is by maybe sending all members that have that character on their contact list a eve mail stating the old and new name. Another idea is in the employment history have a note of the time at which the character applied for a new identity. I just don't see how something you can even do in real life can't be done in a game. To me that is even a part of role play to invent a new identity not be stuck with the same one forever, specially since it happens in the real world but that's just my two cents.
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Meisje
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.19 16:44:00 -
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I think if CCP ever does implement a feature like this, that it will have a $25 pricetag slapped on it.
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RaTTuS
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.10.19 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Meisje I think if CCP ever does implement a feature like this, that it will have a $25 pricetag slapped on it.
no it will be rename for plex and think of the whine threads that would generate --
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Boltorano
Fourth Circle Total Comfort
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Posted - 2010.10.19 16:50:00 -
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Why would you use that awful word, "toon" and then use the appropriate word, "character" in the text of your post? I don't know if I'm supposed to dislike you or not now.
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Nomkhubulwane
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Posted - 2010.10.19 16:55:00 -
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I would support this, sensible way to generate income for ccp. As for knowing a players history,simply list all your old names in bio, problem solved.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2010.10.19 17:04:00 -
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I want to change my name to B.A. Barakkus :(
Originally by: captain foivos Who would recruit someone named Barakkus?
Wait a minute...
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Saint Evonivon
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Posted - 2010.10.19 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Boltorano Why would you use that awful word, "toon" and then use the appropriate word, "character" in the text of your post? I don't know if I'm supposed to dislike you or not now.
I'll fix it just for you.
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2010.10.19 17:27:00 -
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Great Idea!
I will change my name to 'Saint Evonivon' but still be the same lovable guy I always was.
Mr Epeen
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Sergeant Spot
Galactic Geographic BookMark Surveying Inc.
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Posted - 2010.10.19 17:38:00 -
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I've got mixed feelings on this.
If CCP does this, they should announce it about six (or more) months out, and make damn sure folks have all the time in the world to add folks to their in game "I don't like this jerk", along with a LARGE page for notes on the individuals in question.
Yep, I've got a written **** list. I can count the folks on it with one hand, so its short, but it exists. (and NONE are on it for game related actions or smack).
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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Axel Strom
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Posted - 2010.10.19 17:56:00 -
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A new face and a new name in one go?
Would be awesome for confusing the **** out of corpies
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Saint Evonivon
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Posted - 2010.10.19 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Axel Strom A new face and a new name in one go?
Would be awesome for confusing the **** out of corpies
That's why I think an eve mail should go out to all who have that character on their contacts and a corp mail should go out to. I only have one character I would even rename on one of my accounts, the other account I would not change any names.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.10.19 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Saint Evonivon EVE is not like other mmo's where you can just spend a few months grinding up a new character if you want to redo it. You are stuck forever with the name, .... I know many out there including myself have a toon that really needs a name we enjoy.
Actions have consequences in this game and it should stay that way.
I have a terrible name because I thought I'd make a trial account for some kicks rather than resubbing fully to eve then got horribly hooked and now have this daft name. Nonetheless its a name with a reputation for better or for worse and if everyone could rename their characters it would utterly devalue the permanency that is this beautiful, messy, one sharded mmo ♥ ~_~
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Psiri
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Posted - 2010.10.19 18:20:00 -
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I feel that a name change feature would be perfectly fine to implement, however the previous character name should remain logged for people to see.
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2010.10.19 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Psiri I feel that a name change feature would be perfectly fine to implement, however the previous character name should remain logged for people to see.
my thoughts exactly.
previous name history as well as previous corps.
However i think that the times you can change it should be limited to once a year or just once lifetime. we wouldnt ant to make it too easy for Scammers and corp theifs to go unnoticed.
I went with the name i did because i wanted to play eve! After a few months i thought up a name that suited me perfectly but ofc i am already stuck and too late to reroll an alt. I think this is the best reason to want to change it (or simply hating the one you have so much anything else would do) and we should be able too.
also make searching for the old name bring up the char its was assgined to originally so people that leave for X time can find old freinds still etc
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Demorar Borgear
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Posted - 2010.10.19 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank
Actions have consequences in this game and it should stay that way.
I have a terrible name because I thought I'd make a trial account for some kicks rather than resubbing fully to eve then got horribly hooked and now have this daft name. Nonetheless its a name with a reputation for better or for worse and if everyone could rename their characters it would utterly devalue the permanency that is this beautiful, messy, one sharded mmo ♥
I don't think we could imagine you with any other name! It seems somehow fitting |
Ak'athra J'ador
Amarr Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.10.19 18:40:00 -
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Oh don't worry, very soon there will be a rename for plex feature implemented.
Also, change sex for plex, ship skins for plex, alliance banners for plex, instant ammo for plex...
In incarna you will have pets for plex, ornaments plex...
Hell you will even be able to get a night with Hilmar, Oveur or Torfi for a plex. Because if they were willing to sell the game...
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Paranoid Lemming
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Posted - 2010.10.19 18:45:00 -
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No. I like the fact that if you do ******ed things then it sticks to your name forever. The only times I think changing a name should be viable is when a) You misspelt it or b) when transfering from one player to the next (not two accounts of the same player). There are some pretty nice characters for sale but with some equally aweful names that makes you not want to buy them.
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thelung187
Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.19 18:53:00 -
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Being that I quit smoking in 2006 and I no longer am a huge fan of rap music, this would be a very welcome bonus
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Saint Evonivon
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Posted - 2010.10.19 18:54:00 -
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Ak'athra J'ador I understand your anger but the things you mention you can already do for the most part, Buy plexes sell for isk go to character bazaar and bam new sex/history/name. All I want to see done is a name change that would be logged in the history of the character. With the character bazaar if I really wanted I could swap out a toon with really no effort every month and do whatever the hell I wanted to do with that toon and then sell it and hide all I had done. There are a lot of of people who make most their isk buying toons fixing them up a bit and selling them off.
To me a name change pales in comparison to what goes on in the character bazaar.
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Khanaris Asgarth
Eternium Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.19 19:19:00 -
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Only if they also redo the naming policy. So you can only use alphabet keys for naming.
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K'uata Sayus
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Posted - 2010.10.19 19:36:00 -
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Imagine, having to actually think before you name yourself Jonny Starman, or Darth Darkstar, or Kosimick Kowboy, or whatever.
The taint of other MMO's is evident by some of the names I see, the taint of alcohol and illegal comestibles is evident by others.
Personally, I get a kick out of scrolling local and seeing the variety of names - gives you a good idea of where that player's head was at when the character was created, not realizing it's like a tattoo, and lasts forever.
EVERYONE SEEMS NORMAL UNTIL YOU GET TO KNOW THEM. |
MAB0N
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Posted - 2010.10.19 19:58:00 -
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I completely agree with the OP, a one time character rename would be a fantastic idea. My alt needs a rename.
CCP PLEASE CAN WE HAVE THIS FEATURE!!!
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Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2010.10.19 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 19/10/2010 20:17:28
Originally by: Saint Evonivon CCP plz let us get a 1 time Character rename when Incursion goes live
While I'd like it I don't see CCP enabling this. There's too many people with bad reputations that wouldn't mind starting again anonymus.
But yes, I'd like new (or slightly altered) names.
I'd also like changing my race/bloodline because in many cases the new avatars don't look like the old ones at all. The current version of Khanid females don't look like they're 16 years old and don't have asian eyes. Vheriokors don't have very tight eyes and have very thick lips now. And so on.
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000Hunter000
Gallente Industrial Exploits
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Posted - 2010.10.19 21:06:00 -
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As an almost 7 year old char, i support this request.
Allthough after so many years i don't think i would make use of this myself... my stOOpid name has grown on me over the years ________________________________________________
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ChicksDigMagnets
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Posted - 2010.10.19 21:14:00 -
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yeah........
Names....they sound good in your head sometimes....then you have to play with it.......then people shorten what they call you....
I am referred to as "chicks" on TS.......oh man.....
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
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Posted - 2010.10.19 21:21:00 -
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Oh c'mon chicks, it suits you.
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egegergergsdgedgege
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Posted - 2010.10.19 21:27:00 -
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I dont think that such a feature is a good idea. And i dont see why anyone would want such a thing.
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Saint Evonivon
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Posted - 2010.10.20 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jennifer Starling Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 19/10/2010 20:17:28
Originally by: Saint Evonivon CCP plz let us get a 1 time Character rename when Incursion goes live
While I'd like it I don't see CCP enabling this. There's too many people with bad reputations that wouldn't mind starting again anonymus.
But yes, I'd like new (or slightly altered) names.
I'd also like changing my race/bloodline because in many cases the new avatars don't look like the old ones at all. The current version of Khanid females don't look like they're 16 years old and don't have asian eyes. Vheriokors don't have very tight eyes and have very thick lips now. And so on.
I don't know why people keep saying a name change will hide your deed's. All your history will still be the same Sec/Standings/Kill record/Contacts/Employment history. To me that's all you need, you can find out about anyone through just killboards and Employment history really. Also there is already a way for people to hide their identity, Character Bazaar that allows you to hide everything where a name change does not.
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Valeronx
Celestial Horizon Corp. Fallen Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.20 02:09:00 -
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Originally by: Saint Evonivon I don't know why people keep saying a name change will hide your deed's. All your history will still be the same Sec/Standings/Kill record/Contacts/Employment history. To me that's all you need, you can find out about anyone through just killboards and Employment history really. Also there is already a way for people to hide their identity, Character Bazaar that allows you to hide everything where a name change does not.
Because your reputation is not tied simply to KB stats or Employment History.
If Istvaan decided to change his name, you'd still see GHSC is his Employment history but he'd say "I was just an alt, parked there to pump up the number of members. I didn't do any of those naughty things." You can see what Corp anyone was a member of, but you don't know what they did in (or to) that Corp if the name is changed.
Page through C&P for a few hours. Look at the "Blank is a Corp Thief" or "Blank ganked 10 of his own Gang memebrs" threads. Now imagine how much more annoying they would be if they could change their name.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2010.10.20 02:18:00 -
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Name change? Signed
The Real Space Initiative - V6 (Forum Link)
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AAAAAAAAAA PRIMARYTARGET
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.10.20 02:27:00 -
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yes i would like to add a last name..
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dankness420
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Posted - 2010.10.20 02:33:00 -
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i have nothing against name changes but the old name should show up under the employment records
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Lanais Suleia
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Posted - 2010.10.20 03:11:00 -
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No. Don't like the idea. |
Foofad
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.10.20 03:50:00 -
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Signed, but I do think the old name should appear somewhere in your character's info.
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DjLowballer
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2010.10.20 05:05:00 -
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I actually support this so long as the name is logged. While I would not use it, it would be nice for some of the really odd/video game reference names to be changed to something more fitting.
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xavier69
Gallente Stark Enterprises LLC
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Posted - 2010.10.20 08:17:00 -
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NO --------------------------------------------------------------------
I would totally trade the character avatar remake for new ship models CCP is really turning into WOW fast and ignoring its roots and focusing on silly mmo aspects.
This will never be a mainstream game with 5 million subscribers unless your going to have us shoot boars in the woods for XP so GETS the Hell over it CCP
Scrap this stupid Character revamp whats it for a prelude to walking in stations agian GMFB WTF do we need any of that for ?
New Ship models and fixes now XOXOXOXO |
DarkAegix
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Posted - 2010.10.20 08:25:00 -
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Aegis hasn't played for like 4 years. Aegix hasn't played for like 4 years. Aegixx hasn't played for like 4 years. DarkAegis hasn't played for like 4 years.
Why should I be DarkAegix, when other names are completely inactive?
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Lanais Suleia
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Posted - 2010.10.20 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: DarkAegix Aegis hasn't played for like 4 years. Aegix hasn't played for like 4 years. Aegixx hasn't played for like 4 years. DarkAegis hasn't played for like 4 years.
Why should I be DarkAegix, when other names are completely inactive?
That is an entirely different issue. |
Armoured C
Gallente Legion of EVE
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Posted - 2010.10.20 08:36:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Saint Evonivon EVE is not like other mmo's where you can just spend a few months grinding up a new character if you want to redo it. You are stuck forever with the name, .... I know many out there including myself have a toon that really needs a name we enjoy.
Actions have consequences in this game and it should stay that way.
I have a terrible name because I thought I'd make a trial account for some kicks rather than resubbing fully to eve then got horribly hooked and now have this daft name. Nonetheless its a name with a reputation for better or for worse and if everyone could rename their characters it would utterly devalue the permanency that is this beautiful, messy, one sharded mmo ♥
i have to agree with the spank, i mean i have done some terrible things in game and spammed the hell out of this forum one time ago but it goes against the fabric fundamental core of the game that cause and effect, action and reaction is what this game is and your name is on both through the duration of this game.
yeah
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.10.20 08:56:00 -
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So come incwhatevers when you get to redo you're avatar (Oh the unending joy that'll be 15 min of mild annoyance), you also want to be able to change your name?
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you've ****ed some one or some group of people off and they keep chasing after you? That or you've played alot of wow and change your name on a weekly basis?
Either way, eve is alot more perminant, that's the point, you do something stupid\brilliant and you're name is stuck with that action for as long as people recall.
Being able to trawl through someones employment history\sec status would tell you very little about who that player is other than that they've shot at some stuff or they've bounced between a number of corps(all of which wouldn't know who the player was because of the name change)
Plus.... I do stupid stuff... I kinda want people to remember the stupid stuff I do and mock me for it :D --
Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
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Bane Loppknow
Pel Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.20 08:57:00 -
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I'd love a name change, and would no object at all to a marker in my employment history that says "Name changed from XXXXX to XXXXXX"
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Liam Fremen
Insurgent New Eden Tribe RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.20 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: Valeronx
Because your reputation is not tied simply to KB stats or Employment History.
And even if it was, it would end up to be a nightmare for all killboards, 1 character ID (that should be unique and linked to a unique character name) become 2 different character names or more linked to the same character ID, oh well it would require a LOT of code rewriting.
Anyway, the idea may be cool, but the problem is always the same, even if your "old names" are listed, it ends up to the point where in eve your name is your identity, get over it, having the "old names" listed is not the same.
If you are known to be a idiot is good that you should carry that name forever.
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Mutnin
Amarr Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.20 09:42:00 -
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Personally, I always thought that we should be buying skill sheets that could be implated in the character of our choice. We already have implants so it seems the most logical way that fits right into the story of the game.
I don't mind the idea behind character sales but it's far too easy to abuse it with so little protection on the corp alliance area of the game.
If we could buy skill sheets and implant them with say at a limit to 1 time a year per toon, it would require people to build their identities for trust rather than just buy a new toon to complete a new scam or have a new spy a day after the other is exposed.
It's not that I'm against spying or scamming they are valid forms of play, but it should come with it's consequences. Just as my piracy comes with the consequences of being -10.
Doing it this way would require the identity to be built around the character which couldn't be bought and sold. The major draw back would be not being able to size up a target by it's age.
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Ran Khanon
Amarr Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.10.20 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: AAAAAAAAAA PRIMARYTARGET yes i would like to add a last name..
Rofl :))
ZZZZZZZZZZ LASTONETOPOP ?
Recruiting! |
wizard87
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Posted - 2010.10.20 10:57:00 -
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I think they should also introduce fart for PLEX in Incarna...
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Jojo Redana
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Posted - 2010.10.20 12:25:00 -
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New isk sink? Pay loads of isks to change your name ingame. New service for agents; they will find out someones old names and history. For a fee of course. |
Saint Evonivon
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Posted - 2010.10.20 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Mutnin Personally, I always thought that we should be buying skill sheets that could be implated in the character of our choice. We already have implants so it seems the most logical way that fits right into the story of the game.
I don't mind the idea behind character sales but it's far too easy to abuse it with so little protection on the corp alliance area of the game.
If we could buy skill sheets and implant them with say at a limit to 1 time a year per toon, it would require people to build their identities for trust rather than just buy a new toon to complete a new scam or have a new spy a day after the other is exposed.
It's not that I'm against spying or scamming they are valid forms of play, but it should come with it's consequences. Just as my piracy comes with the consequences of being -10.
Doing it this way would require the identity to be built around the character which couldn't be bought and sold. The major draw back would be not being able to size up a target by it's age.
I love that idea so much more, I brought up a similar thing once but people pew pew'ed it, also thank you for being someone that see's just how much more powerful the character bazaar is over just a simple name change. It's a point I'm trying to get though to CCP. For them to say you can totaly wipe all your history and take on someone else'es history without anyone knowing who you are and having a record that reflects nothing about you is ok, but its not ok to do a simple name change and keep all your history and deeds.
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Mandos2k
Gallente Divinity Within
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Posted - 2010.10.20 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank Actions have consequences in this game and it should stay that way.
No they have not. Your actions only have consequences if you are lazy, stupid or actually want those consequences. Everyone can just create an alt to do mean or good things or simply create a second account. And the character bazaar makes it ridiculously easy to avoid any unwanted attention.
With alts, second, third or whatever accounts and the possibility to buy and sell characters at will actions have no consequences at all unless you want them.
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My Postman
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Posted - 2010.10.20 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Saint Evonivon
Originally by: Mutnin Personally, I always thought that we should be buying skill sheets that could be implated in the character of our choice. We already have implants so it seems the most logical way that fits right into the story of the game.
I don't mind the idea behind character sales but it's far too easy to abuse it with so little protection on the corp alliance area of the game.
If we could buy skill sheets and implant them with say at a limit to 1 time a year per toon, it would require people to build their identities for trust rather than just buy a new toon to complete a new scam or have a new spy a day after the other is exposed.
It's not that I'm against spying or scamming they are valid forms of play, but it should come with it's consequences. Just as my piracy comes with the consequences of being -10.
Doing it this way would require the identity to be built around the character which couldn't be bought and sold. The major draw back would be not being able to size up a target by it's age.
I love that idea so much more, I brought up a similar thing once but people pew pew'ed it, also thank you for being someone that see's just how much more powerful the character bazaar is over just a simple name change. It's a point I'm trying to get though to CCP. For them to say you can totaly wipe all your history and take on someone else'es history without anyone knowing who you are and having a record that reflects nothing about you is ok, but its not ok to do a simple name change and keep all your history and deeds.
So basically you want to buy a skillset for money. Microtransactions thread --> that way.
OP: As one of the above posters said, it¦s already too easy to change "identity", and by renaming you make it more easy.
Btw i like the idea that a noob is buying a char at the bazar, not knowing this one is hated by half of new eden, and will be hunted down for ever, sold or not.
Knowing this, will it make much harder or near to impossible to sell the "bad boy". But griefers/scammers/other lowlifes will find a way around it, i¦m sure.
That said, and having a personal list of the "lowlifes" i¦ve met in new eden i don¦t want to update this list every now and than. So no.
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Sphit Ker
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.10.20 13:42:00 -
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Yes, only for minor changes such as correcting a typo or perhaps adding a prefix or suffix to the name. Don't allow anything that does alter the identity of the character otherwise it's just too damn easy to get away with it. If you steer up **** you get to smell that ****, that's a core aspect of this universe.
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Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2010.10.20 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank Actions have consequences in this game and it should stay that way.
Hmm let me see ..
Your security status screwed up? You can undo it by ratting! Your faction standing screwed up? You can undo it by missioning! Your ship blew up? You can undo it by making ISK and buying a new one! And oh, you get insurance! Your remaps screwed up? You can undo it by PLEX (soon)! Your character portrait isn't what you envisioned? Remake for $10 or create a new in Incursions. Your character name screwed up? ................. ?
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V'hellu
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Posted - 2010.10.20 13:56:00 -
[52]
I'd agree with this, so long as they list your old name somewhere in your profile.
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RaTTuS
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.10.20 14:10:00 -
[53]
Since this has not been mentioned yet I'd thought I plop in in here....
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.10.20 14:15:00 -
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In a world where immortal billionaires can transfer their consciousness between cloned physical shells - forcing people to adhere to a race or bloodline seems utterly ******ed.
Names however. That's something else entirely.
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.20 14:16:00 -
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I don't see a reason for changing an active character's name, but it might be an idea to prune trial accounts after a given ammount of time, to free up unused names.
Originally by: CCP Navigator Great story but you probably want this in CAOD so feel free to post there with your main.
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.20 14:35:00 -
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Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 20/10/2010 14:36:58
Originally by: thelung187 Being that I quit smoking in 2006 and I no longer am a huge fan of rap music, this would be a very welcome bonus
Dude, your sig is awesome .
Off-topic, I know.
Edit: What is that type of cartoon style called?
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
Foofad
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.10.20 17:02:00 -
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All of the "consequences" based counterarguments in this thread are totally refuted by having the previous, old character name appear somewhere in your character's info. Big and bold. Maybe even right there on the nameplate: "Prince Rogers Nelson, formerly known as Prince".
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Saint Evonivon
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Posted - 2010.10.20 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Foofad All of the "consequences" based counterarguments in this thread are totally refuted by having the previous, old character name appear somewhere in your character's info. Big and bold. Maybe even right there on the nameplate: "Prince Rogers Nelson, formerly known as Prince".
Exactly.
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Lampblack
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Posted - 2010.10.20 18:02:00 -
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name change. yes.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.10.20 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Boltorano Why would you use that awful word, "toon" and then use the appropriate word, "character" in the text of your post? I don't know if I'm supposed to dislike you or not now.
Toon toon toon toon toon toon toon toon toon toon toon toon toon toon toon toon toon!!!
Deal with it noob. Youre playing a a game and we have been calling game avatars toons for over 10 or 15 years.
EVE is NOT serious business.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Mutnin
Amarr Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.20 22:15:00 -
[61]
Edited by: Mutnin on 20/10/2010 22:16:42
Originally by: My Postman
So basically you want to buy a skillset for money. Microtransactions thread --> that way.
Don't jump to conclusions with out reading what is posted. Nothing at all was said about buying skills as micro transactions so don't beat a drum that isn't there.
The idea I mentioned would simply replace the current character trade by forcing people to use their own toons and buy complete skill sheets from other players instead of complete toons.
This would require people to build a reputation around their toons rather than easily erasing their history by the swipe of a $20 CC transaction as it currently works.
To make it simple.. lets say I decide I don't want my skill set and want to go mine and play care bear.
I could sell my skill set to another player that wanted a PVP toon and I could buy a skill set from some other player that used to be a carebear and got tired of it.
It's not buying individual skills, it's just buying the skills that were trained on such and such toon, instead of buying the toon. This would force people to make their own identities rather than buy another's.
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Sakurako Kimino
OffBeat Creations
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Posted - 2010.10.21 01:25:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Demorar Borgear
Originally by: Lady Spank
Actions have consequences in this game and it should stay that way.
I have a terrible name because I thought I'd make a trial account for some kicks rather than resubbing fully to eve then got horribly hooked and now have this daft name. Nonetheless its a name with a reputation for better or for worse and if everyone could rename their characters it would utterly devalue the permanency that is this beautiful, messy, one sharded mmo ♥
I don't think we could imagine you with any other name! It seems somehow fitting
i call her lady spankshine. she is just a ray of light in our life
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Shnitz
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Posted - 2010.10.21 01:33:00 -
[63]
Screw the name change, if they are making high res boobs, I want a sex change...
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My Postman
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Posted - 2010.10.21 13:15:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Mutnin Edited by: Mutnin on 20/10/2010 22:16:42
Originally by: My Postman
So basically you want to buy a skillset for money. Microtransactions thread --> that way.
Don't jump to conclusions with out reading what is posted. Nothing at all was said about buying skills as micro transactions so don't beat a drum that isn't there.
The idea I mentioned would simply replace the current character trade by forcing people to use their own toons and buy complete skill sheets from other players instead of complete toons.
This would require people to build a reputation around their toons rather than easily erasing their history by the swipe of a $20 CC transaction as it currently works.
To make it simple.. lets say I decide I don't want my skill set and want to go mine and play care bear.
I could sell my skill set to another player that wanted a PVP toon and I could buy a skill set from some other player that used to be a carebear and got tired of it.
It's not buying individual skills, it's just buying the skills that were trained on such and such toon, instead of buying the toon. This would force people to make their own identities rather than buy another's.
If you are saying that you have to give away the same amout of sp than you are getting (on different skills), and keep your sec status (i.e. your "biography") indeed this would be an improvement.
"Bad guys" won¦t want this, as they never can get rid of their said "biography" other than biomassing. In fact i love this idea, but won¦t happen.
Generally i¦m all agaist this char-trading. I¦m not an RP¦er but i think that things you do should have consequences, and when they are painful, so may it be.
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Princess Jodi
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.21 13:33:00 -
[65]
No. Your reputation is what Eve is all about. Allowing name changing would eliminate that. Sorry if you bought a toon with lots of enemies, for example, but that's your problem.
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Kryssare
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Posted - 2010.10.21 14:13:00 -
[66]
100000 chribbas flying around in space? no thank you.
However, please delete all charachters on accounts after they ben inactive 1 year. Theres a whole bunch of names locked by 6 year olds that only played 2 weeks, kinda annoying
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Gravemind GER
Caldari Swords OF TYR Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.10.21 15:19:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Kryssare 100000 chribbas flying around in space? no thank you.
or 100000 SirMolles/Imperians/Tomcats/Bobby Atlass/Karttoons/Mittani/Liangs(OMG)
Originally by: Kryssare 100000 chribbas flying around in space? no thank you.
However, please delete all charachters on accounts after they ben inactive 1 year. Theres a whole bunch of names locked by 6 year olds that only played 2 weeks, kinda annoying
^This
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2010.10.21 15:55:00 -
[68]
Brain transplants for plex, very interesting indeed.
Create new char with desired name, face and genitalia, then pay a plex to swap the skill sets and implants!
verrrry interesting, would need "previous bodys" section still though!!
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K'racker
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.10.21 16:03:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Mutnin Edited by: Mutnin on 20/10/2010 22:16:42
Originally by: My Postman
So basically you want to buy a skillset for money. Microtransactions thread --> that way.
Don't jump to conclusions with out reading what is posted. Nothing at all was said about buying skills as micro transactions so don't beat a drum that isn't there.
The idea I mentioned would simply replace the current character trade by forcing people to use their own toons and buy complete skill sheets from other players instead of complete toons.
This would require people to build a reputation around their toons rather than easily erasing their history by the swipe of a $20 CC transaction as it currently works.
To make it simple.. lets say I decide I don't want my skill set and want to go mine and play care bear.
I could sell my skill set to another player that wanted a PVP toon and I could buy a skill set from some other player that used to be a carebear and got tired of it.
It's not buying individual skills, it's just buying the skills that were trained on such and such toon, instead of buying the toon. This would force people to make their own identities rather than buy another's.
being able to rename a char, and have original name listed in employment history, is different from your suggestion.
you'd remove all consequences for past actions. make a new acct and char, transfer your skills to it, you're no longer that corp thief everyone wants to kill, you're no longer -10 and have to grind sec back up, or kos to empire factions and have to run noob missions to enter their space, etc...
and nobody will ever know, just let the old acct expire. how do you figure that requires building a reputation? it's the exact opposite...
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Kendon Riddick
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Posted - 2010.10.21 16:13:00 -
[70]
Originally by: K'racker
you'd remove all consequences for past actions. make a new acct and char, transfer your skills to it, you're no longer that corp thief everyone wants to kill, you're no longer -10 and have to grind sec back up, or kos to empire factions and have to run noob missions to enter their space, etc...
and nobody will ever know, just let the old acct expire. how do you figure that requires building a reputation? it's the exact opposite...
well the fact the sec system needs an overhual so thats partly another matter, and could be sevealy cut down with a SINGLE name change per account per year or whatever...
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Vitamin B12
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Posted - 2010.10.21 16:45:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Jojo Redana New isk sink? Pay loads of isks to change your name ingame. New service for agents; they will find out someones old names and history. For a fee of course.
actual a good idea. maybe make a kind of profession out of it. ---
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Cyrus Doul
Infinite Covenant
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Posted - 2010.10.21 16:59:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Jojo Redana New isk sink? Pay loads of isks to change your name ingame. New service for agents; they will find out someones old names and history. For a fee of course.
I support this.
And if we get free name changes i call Bot1 though Bot9
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Spurty
Caldari D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2010.10.21 17:05:00 -
[73]
+1 to this idea.
<result> <characterID>XXXX</characterID> <name>XXXXX</name> <alias>ZZZZZ</alias> <race>Caldari</race> <bloodLine>Achura</bloodLine> <gender>Male</gender> <corporationName>sniggerdly</corporationName> <corporationID>828800677</corporationID> <cloneName>Clone Grade Sigma</cloneName> <cloneSkillPoints>92500000</cloneSkillPoints>
CCP can do this ;-)
Yelp!
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Kinta Huron
ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.21 22:11:00 -
[74]
I would pay for this feature.
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
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Posted - 2010.10.21 22:23:00 -
[75]
The only way this would be kosher is in my opinion is if all past names are included in some tab in the character profile and that changing the name will not change the entry in pilots peoples and places tab.
Slade
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Mutnin
Amarr Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.21 22:28:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Mutnin on 21/10/2010 22:34:34
Originally by: K'racker
being able to rename a char, and have original name listed in employment history, is different from your suggestion.
you'd remove all consequences for past actions. make a new acct and char, transfer your skills to it, you're no longer that corp thief everyone wants to kill, you're no longer -10 and have to grind sec back up, or kos to empire factions and have to run noob missions to enter their space, etc...
and nobody will ever know, just let the old acct expire. how do you figure that requires building a reputation? it's the exact opposite...
The difference here is you would still have a date the toon was created on and a corp history. There is no way around people creating a new toon and adding their old SP's and to be honest I see no real reason why the shouldn't be able to do so.
However by limiting the skill sheet change to 1 year it would at the very least cut down on disposable alts with no accountability for their actions. It would also allow corps/alliances to think twice about giving out those director roles to some toon that is 3 months old, with no corp history and flying dreads.. Simply meaning you will know the guy has no reputation and can take it for what it is at your own risk.
The point behind the idea of selling your skill sheet rather than the toon, is to lock in the reputation to the toon it's self which can not be sold. While it's not perfect its at the very least a bit better than being able to buy and sell complete new identities with no accountability to the player for the toons past actions or worse yet having the buyer get screwed because of the other guys bad rep.
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Osiris Heart
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Posted - 2010.10.21 23:21:00 -
[77]
+1 I totally agree about changing character name, but only because of different reason and in a different way. I'd say CCP should let to us change character names constantly, but with particular reason:
Fix characters name.
I know there people concerns about possible abuse of that, but as long as CCP is Crowd Control Programs, I suggest do it by Crowd Control Process.
REASONS:
This game is playable long time. It could take years, so if teenager named his character something like" Homm3rsexsual" and thought that is cool, then when he becomes an adult may change his mind. Kill character that trained few years nobody wants. Actually if I should kill 2 years character just because of its name, then I probably quit that account rather than train it again (I've got more then on account) In this case, player lost character, time and money. CCP lost subscription, money with it and player (if he had only one account)
SOLUTION:
Apply Crowd Control Process. When CCP allows players to fix their name then everybody becomes happy.
There is Crowd Control Process for this particular problem:
1. Time 2. Real need 3. Money 4. Traceability
TIME:
Applicant should apply for new available name. That option should be in the Account Services. Then wait for it 1-2 month.
REAL NEED:
During that time, CCP considers about need of changing that name. For instance: "Homm3rsexsual" changing to "IkillU2and4eva" should be rejected, but if "Homm3rsexsual" changing to something similar as normal human name (like John Peterson, Cliff Johnson and such), should be approved.
MONEY:
In the forums people says it should cost about 20$-25$. I say it should balanced in case to ensure of eliminating any possibility to abuse (In my opinion about 30$-100$ per name)
TRACEABILITY:
Standings, persuasions because of committed crimes should stay and Character Info should contain information about previous name and time when it changed at least 2 years of continuous subscription.
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T'Amber
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.10.22 00:22:00 -
[78]
Seriously, why don't you guys think before you make your name or do dumb **** in game. I've lived with my ******ed name for almost 5 years.
There should always be consequences, so harden the **** up, and live with your mistakes. Who wants to have to look at everyone's bio or click show info to see who they were before?
-T'amber
[VANIR / AESIR WARS] C o m i n g S o o n Ö
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Valeronx
Celestial Horizon Corp. Fallen Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.22 01:28:00 -
[79]
Originally by: T'Amber
Seriously, why don't you guys think before you make your name or do dumb **** in game. I've lived with my ******ed name for almost 5 years.
There should always be consequences, so harden the **** up, and live with your mistakes. Who wants to have to look at everyone's bio or click show info to see who they were before?
-T'amber
Exactly.
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Foofad
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.10.22 04:00:00 -
[80]
I could say the same about you. It takes two seconds to check someone's bio, harden the **** up and read if you really care about knowing who someone was pre-name change.
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.10.22 08:43:00 -
[81]
Edited by: TheBlueMonkey on 22/10/2010 08:52:27
Originally by: Ghoest
Originally by: Boltorano Why would you use that awful word, "toon" and then use the appropriate word, "character" in the text of your post? I don't know if I'm supposed to dislike you or not now.
Toon toon toon toon toon toon toon toon toon toon toon toon toon toon toon toon toon!!!
Deal with it noob. Youre playing a a game and we have been calling game avatars toons for over 10 or 15 years.
EVE is NOT serious business.
I've always disliked the term "toon", it makes you sound like a ****
Edit; Having some kinda of
Player x formerly y formerly z etc
would make it less hideous but how long could you make you character sheet? --
Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
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Kaito Kenshin
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club
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Posted - 2010.10.22 16:08:00 -
[82]
I would favor a one-time name change with the implementation of Incursion or Incarna for the sole reason that it is going to theoretically add an entirely new type of interaction to the game. I believe that there is a difference between the identities people would choose to play in the differing scenarios of a) being disembodied in a spaceship and b)walking around chatting with folk face-to-face.
Incarna changes the game and changes how many people will play it, so I think it would be fair to allow the players to change appropriately as well.
And if it stirs up a lot of identity confusion, cool. Things can always use a bit of shaking up.
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Typhoontoby
Firebird Squadron
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Posted - 2010.10.22 16:15:00 -
[83]
Easy, put a new tab next to Bio when you are browsing a player's info - "Alias History". |
Zofe Stormcaller
B4D W0LF Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.23 11:47:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Shnitz Screw the name change, if they are making high res boobs, I want a sex change...
How is Incarna going to implement being bedridden for 2 weeks in pain followed by a lifetime of dilating, antiseptic and hormone therapy? ;)
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heheheh
Phoenix Club
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Posted - 2010.10.23 12:00:00 -
[85]
NO
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.10.23 12:06:00 -
[86]
Edited by: Hirana Yoshida on 23/10/2010 12:10:23 Just add an entry somewhere on the character info that is clearly visible and lists all previous identities.
People who'll get scammed will still get scammed regardless of what measures are put in place so its mainly for corporate/alliance level character research purposes.
Without such a name history it has no hope in hell of getting any significant support from players and CCP will probably be loathe the implement it as well.
Question is how to manage it in database. - Does all previous names remain locked/associated with original? - Does a search for a name return info on the "upgrade"?
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2010.10.23 12:09:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 23/10/2010 12:11:00
Originally by: Zofe Stormcaller
Originally by: Shnitz Screw the name change, if they are making high res boobs, I want a sex change...
How is Incarna going to implement being bedridden for 2 weeks in pain followed by a lifetime of dilating, antiseptic and hormone therapy? ;)
No need for all that. Just transfer to a clone of the opposite sex or just use SCIENCE!!! to explain it away.
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Jenny Hawk
State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.10.23 12:09:00 -
[88]
Yes an optional name change would be very nice.
Of course with the former "alias" still easily accessible.
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Kaar
Rionnag Alba Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2010.10.23 12:15:00 -
[89]
This idea is so ****ing dumb i thought id post to add more dumbness to the thread in the hope of breaking some dumb-thread record.
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jullll
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Posted - 2010.10.23 12:21:00 -
[90]
i would totaly pay for changing some of my characters name. This feature is allowed on 95% of MMOs out there.
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Natalie Caladan
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.10.23 13:05:00 -
[91]
Although i realy like my name I can imagine other people would want their names altered. I'd like to see more normal names in EVE so why not give the option? Just as long as they can be traced back?
Originally by: jullll i would totaly pay for changing some of my characters name. This feature is allowed on 95% of MMOs out there.
Indeed, it shouldn't be too hard or unconventional to have it. There's a lot of things that can be changed or made undone so why not this?!
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Sp4rt4nII70
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.10.23 13:08:00 -
[92]
Edited by: Sp4rt4nII70 on 23/10/2010 13:09:27 Yes please let me change my name =S
I was drunk when this happened.
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Zofe Stormcaller
B4D W0LF Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.23 21:04:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 23/10/2010 12:11:00
Originally by: Zofe Stormcaller
Originally by: Shnitz Screw the name change, if they are making high res boobs, I want a sex change...
How is Incarna going to implement being bedridden for 2 weeks in pain followed by a lifetime of dilating, antiseptic and hormone therapy? ;)
No need for all that. Just transfer to a clone of the opposite sex or just use SCIENCE!!! to explain it away.
This is true, we need this technology in RL to be honest...
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Princess Jodi
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.24 01:02:00 -
[94]
Already said NO once, but I'll say it again. Badder than the Baddest Idea ever, and then some.
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Cthulhu F'taghn
SniggWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.10.24 08:20:00 -
[95]
I would love to be able to change my name lol
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